Sep 21, 2011 2:57 PM
Model 1887s: Should they have their old range?
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Ah yes, the imfamous model 1887s. For those of you that joined COD at BO or MW3, the model 1887s were shotguns in MW2 that had insane range. They were nerfed after awhile to near uselessness, to my displeasure.
But now its a new game and shotties are once again primaries. Do you think the models should be given their old range back? Seeing as how I've heard there's no akimbo option for them, I say hell ya!
Thoughts?
suddendeth13 wrote:
Ah yes, the imfamous model 1887s. For those of you that joined COD at BO or MW3, the model 1887s were shotguns in MW2 that had insane range. They were nerfed after awhile to near uselessness, to my displeasure.
But now its a new game and shotties are once again primaries. Do you think the models should be given their old range back? Seeing as how I've heard there's no akimbo option for them, I say hell ya!
Thoughts?
No thanks... the Models pre-nerf were the only weapon I have ever complained are OP.
'Cuz they were.
I'm disappointed they are back at all.![]()
They were only OP because of Akimbo, which is not in MW3 for shotguns.
I don't think they will be as much as a threat like in MW2 because of it being a primary and no akimbo
Don't forget that Overkill is making a return
Dont forget that overkill is ****. Run hardline and then to get your own overkill, MAYBE PICK UP THE GUN OF THE PERSON YOU JUST KILLED, JUST SWAP YOUR PISTOL.
Overkill is useless.
rankismet wrote:
I'm disappointed they are back at all.
This. ![]()
hell no the range was a joke shotguns are a cqb weapon not a bloody sniper rifle
Snipers are a long range range weapon that shouldn't be crazy effective at close range.
*joins MW2 lobby on Xbox*
"Wow, look at all those Quickscopers running around"
yeah quickscopers are douches
No, I don't want shotguns to have the range of my tar...
I won't know what their range is, didn't go to 360 xp
dfhfh wrote:
hell no the range was a joke shotguns are a cqb weapon not a bloody sniper rifle
And yet snipers get to be a CQB weapon and a long range weapon? *cough* QS is cheap *cough*
Even if the models did have good range, they still have limited range, and shotties are the ONLY guns to have so. Whats wrong with giving them some range? You can snipe me with your tar in 4 shots from anywhere. If you're out of my effective range, I CAN NOT kill you.
suddendeth13 wrote:
dfhfh wrote:
hell no the range was a joke shotguns are a cqb weapon not a bloody sniper rifle
And yet snipers get to be a CQB weapon and a long range weapon? *cough* QS is cheap *cough*
Even if the models did have good range, they still have limited range, and shotties are the ONLY guns to have so. Whats wrong with giving them some range? You can snipe me with your tar in 4 shots from anywhere. If you're out of my effective range, I CAN NOT kill you.
Has to do with the number of bullets that come out of the shotgun... which was the problem of the pre-nerf models.
The tradeoff you get is a weapon that can kill in 1 burst to 2 max with a very liberal hitbox.
Definitely not, but that's just my opinion.
Well I"m okay with Spas-12/Model Ranges as long as they're not akimbo, It'll actually give me a reason to use Shotguns face it would you even think of getting a one shot kill with a Black ops stakeout from say the window of a nuketown building to the red truck?
If they are primaries they YES, give them realistic range which would be actually further then pre patched mw2 1887's
craftyshot wrote:
If they are primaries they YES, give them realistic range which would be actually further then pre patched mw2 1887's
That would be fine, if there was no Overkill Perk.
Is the OP kidding? I really do think he was joking about this subject, nobody wants the old models backs except for the one armed guy that plays this game with his feet.
I'm perfectly fine with them coming back. On PC everyone was too busy using the g18's.
nobody as in the 4% of cod owners that are on the internet
No, because why your prestigeing there will be a clan that will only use models and it will be super gay
There is a difference between a casualty range and a killing range. If I want to hit people like I could with the Masterkey from MW2, why not? Doesn't mean you'll kill anything.
Even if the M1887 is a primary weapon, and even if the rediculous akimbo configuration doesn't appear in MW3, the problem was that this weapon could instantly take out an enemy without having to aim precisely.
The working combination for shotguns is a long wounding range, but short instakill range. Shotgun wounds could even have a subtle stun effect to make them worthy alternatives to SMGs, but they shouldn't be able to take out anyone at range with a single shot unless some kind of precise shot placement is involved.
I've never understood why IW included this weapon in a game called MODERN Warfare.
justin, I think half the guns are barely modern. IMO, guns from, say, 1970 isn't modern either. I kind of expect something from, say, 2005.
Actually most of our modern weaponry and technology is from the 60's era.
The Model 1887s, on the other hand, were produced in 1887 and discontinued in 1901.
Jus tuse the Range proficency. Watch the spas 12 grip and proficency, looks useful.
For the love of god no, it should not be pre-patched range
gogogo AA12.
PS. I liked having shottys as secondarys. There were a lot of cqb maps in MW2 and they really complimented ARs and snipers.
they should the complainers that dont wanna get owned say low range
No MW2 range pre-patch, especially no akimbos.
I agree with you, hell yeah! Since they are primeries, I don't see why not. Obviously there needs to be some balance and I think the no akimbo factor makes it fair.
Akimbo is no longer an option for them, so the range that attachment gave will never return, but maybe the same range as the spas would be OK, since they are now primaries.
If you think they are useless now, you are doing it wrong. I use them for the **** of it and I murder with them. Needing something to be OP to get kills is your own problem.
I think the range should increase on all shotguns even without the range proficiency as well as the damage because the snipers have the range and damaage a shotgun should and plus snipers are easy to use so buff the shotty or nerf the QS either would be fine.