Dec 20, 2011 11:24 AM
Are people doing the PRESTIGE TOKEN GLITCH getting Banned/Reset/Suspended?
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Title says it all.
I havn't done it. I was just wondering on behalf of the people who have.
Its clearly an unfair advantage against other players, but then again it was IW/SH who put it in the game.
Is it wrong to take advantage of their mistakes?
Personally I dont think people should be banned, maybe reset or suspended. They should know people are going to take advantage of glitches so it is kind of their fault for being a little careless. Personally I think they were really lazy with this game beacuse they knew they were going to get sales.
If anyone has any information on this to shed some light on the subject that would be great.
What do you think about it?
@fourzerotwo Can you get banned for the prestige token glitch?
i let my friend borrow my acount and when i got it back it said that i got -3000 tokens.
iLoveMW3 wrote:
i let my friend borrow my acount and when i got it back it said that i got -3000 tokens.
no you didn't
Translates to: I've done the glitch and now am terrified that the banhammer is going to smash me in my yellow teeth.
Hahaha, the way i see it your only cheating yourself. Start ranking up do a glitch and end up with a ban, not my idea of fun. Although If I were a betting man, I highly doubt many people will get caught, as the lotto would say "it could be you"
Except things like the prestige tokens amounts/used on each player data gets saved, all IW have to do is search for those with minus tokens and your done.
@iLove MW3, highly doubt that you gave your profile to your friend; you got VERY carried away with the glitch and are now terrified more like.
It should be easy enough to find out who did the glitch in their database. Every member that has negative tokens did the glitch. All they have to do is sort it out that way and ban everyone with negative tokens. Easy as pie.
fuzzyadam wrote:
Title says it all.
I havn't done it. I was just wondering on behalf of the people who have.
Its clearly an unfair advantage against other players, but then again it was IW/SH who put it in the game.
Is it wrong to take advantage of their mistakes?
Personally I dont think people should be banned, maybe reset or suspended. They should know people are going to take advantage of glitches so it is kind of their fault for being a little careless. Personally I think they were really lazy with this game beacuse they knew they were going to get sales.
If anyone has any information on this to shed some light on the subject that would be great.
What do you think about it?
Ban them all and let the salty tears flow...
Wiggy's thoughts...
taking advantage of any mistake is sly in my eyes. Exploiting/glitching, obviously not supposed to do them. If you have to ask or think about it, your probly shouldnt.
I have not done this glitch but nearly all of my friends have done it.And many other thousands of people have also done it.I dont think you should get banned because for one, it does not really affect anyone else like so what if you (im talking plural here) get to 10th prestige before someone else? And it doesent really affect gameplay anyway so, i think they should forget about it and focus on banning people who are boosting to the top of the leaderboards. That my friends affects other people not unlimited double XP.And hey...if you get to 10th prestige quicker so what? Less fun for you lol ![]()
so getting unlimited tokens for 2 hours of xp wouldnt be considered boosting? Sounds like boosting to me xD. Uping your rank from non legitiment actions.
samguy3 wrote:
I have not done this glitch but nearly all of my friends have done it.And many other thousands of people have also done it.I dont think you should get banned because for one, it does not really affect anyone else like so what if you (im talking plural here) get to 10th prestige before someone else? And it doesent really affect gameplay anyway so, i think they should forget about it and focus on banning people who are boosting to the top of the leaderboards. That my friends affects other people not unlimited double XP.And hey...if you get to 10th prestige quicker so what? Less fun for you lol
It DOES affect everyone else. You can unlock everything in the game giving you all the perks at level 1.
I have not done this glitch but nearly all of my friends have done it.And many other thousands of people have also done it.I dont think you should get banned because for one, it does not really affect anyone else like so what if you (im talking plural here) get to 10th prestige before someone else? And it doesent really affect gameplay anyway so, i think they should forget about it and focus on banning people who are boosting to the top of the leaderboards. That my friends affects other people not unlimited double XP.And hey...if you get to 10th prestige quicker so what? Less fun for you lol ![]()
from a developer on this forum:
"Exploting this glitch is a bannable offense with possible further ramifications.
We are actively sweeping player profiles to identify offenders.
A fix for the glitch is cued up ready to go live.
G IH A IN ID II"
The Dev agrees to fix this glitch and punish the exploiters. But will they punish themselves for having a broken system? Not talking about the game but am talking about the prestige shop. I reached 2nd prestige 4 days ago and I was hoping to get a token and spend it to unlock a gear. In to my suprise i've never received my token in the first place. I've checked and i'm not the only one with this bs problem. Could the exploit be infact a way of paying back all the prestige tokens that were stolen from legit players. Perhaps.
I agree this should be easy to figure out. If the stats don't roll-up, ban them.
As far as the OP, it's not something they "put in the game". It's an oversight. If you knew how many lines of code go into a game like this, you wouldn't be so quick to judge. EVERY piece of software out there has bugs/glitches in it. IW have a team of good developers to put out such a title with as few bug/glitches in it as they have found and an even better team with how quickly they're patching the glitches.
DAMMIT now just wait for that day i have learned my lesson
Aint gonna happen....thatis unless it was over the top exploitation.
Reason why...ban the hackers/glitchers = loss of revenue on next generation of game.
If you built a widget and someone or somebodies enhanced it, hacked it, glitched it, whatever yet you saw an increase of sales due to 'just' that fact (yes, lil kiddies...the ability to hack a game actually INCREASES a game companies revenues) would you tell your customers, sorry you're banned?? Nah, you;d make a poor excuse of an example by banning .01% and then spam the news saying 'IM TOUGH ON HACKING!!!'
End result, FPS games are not for everyone. There are people out there with vast reactionary skills that its a cake walk to them...and like all things explained for a reaction there is an equal opposite reaction, meaning, people that could not catch a party balloon with enough helium to actually keep it off the ground. So to market to those 'opposites' without dumbing the game down (oops, wait, the Lag compensation people may think of right off the bat...) they rely on hackers to exploit the game which allows the opposites to compete with the talented.
Wish all you want but the days of Game Stats bragging are over. Just think baseball and steriods and you'll get thedrift.
Are you high? Game companies rely on hackers to exploit the game to increase sales? I'd love to know where you found this little bit of info. Could you please explain to me why last year microsoft banned one million people from XBL? Those one million people could generate several million in revenue for MS every month. So why would MS give them the boot?
The old saying goes a few bad apples spoil the bunch and the same holds true for cheaters. A single cheater in FFA can ruin the game for everyone. That one person can cause several people to question the idea of paying for XBL. Why pay for online access if you don't have fun playing online? Call of Duty is THE most popular online game for XBOX. It is THE reason some people bought an xbox. It is THE reason why some people pay for XBL. MS has billions wrapped up in the xbox and its infrastructure. If sales grind to a halt and people begin cancelling XBL the whole thing will collapse like a house of cards.
People play CoD for the same reason they play any game, to win in a competitive setting. If certain players have an unfair advantage then the game is no longer competitive or fun. Rampant cheating has completely ruined certain online games in the past. Glitches and exploits are not some fancy handicap mechanic purposely put in the game. The fact that the devs have already stated that cheaters and glitchers will be banned is some pretty strong evidence to support this.
If you exploit a glitch then expect a ban. Nuff said.
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/41.aspx
See that page right there ? That is all the "future lost revenue" that Microsoft deals with in a daily basis. Multiply those amount of posts by at least ten. If these people want to play a game they put out hard money for they have to now spend 60 dollars on a NEW gamertag and they also lost their MS points ALL DLC for every game ever bought, and the time spent acheiving things.
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/2366.aspx
See that one above ? Thats even more "future lost revenue". Those people not only have to deal with the same as the people above they also need to buy a new Xbox to do it.
Or all of them can go to the PS3 but they will be disappointed most likely.
Now you want a real BIG amount of "future lost revenue" ?
Back in 2009 Microsoft banned 1 million people from Xbox Live in one swoop. The one million people they banned were modding their console software and Gamertags. Some of those modders were using pirated copies of MW2 on those xboxes. They immediately lost all that "future revenue".
Some people MAY leave but more will take their place and the rest of the banned players will still crawl back to Microsoft. I mean if you own ten Xbox games, do you think its smart to buy a PS3 console AND those 10 games if available ? Or would it be cheaper and smarter to buy a new Gamertag and / Or console to play the games you still have ? The fact is the companies already have the money today. They still have 99 percent of the legit players and advertising to get in all the future revenue on everything.
If you are thinking along the line of "customer service" or "customer loyalty" then your thinking about nothing but what companies want you to believe.
Another example was the Netflix Price Raising from recent history. They expected a loss of 1 million customers by raising their prices. That is again their analysts stated "We will lose 1 million customers but still gain more income". Of course them raising their prices by at least 40 percent lost them 1.8 million out of the total 23 million they had instead
That was a dumb move. If they would have raised it gradually they would have probably saved a ton of those customers.
I'm curious about this one (which seems to be most of them)
This Xbox console has been permanently suspended from access to Xbox LIVE due to involvement in the purchase, sale, theft, or transfer of Xbox LIVE account(s
What does that mean they probably did? Hack marketplace? Use someone elses account on their xbox?
on a sevier ban like theat most likely (im 99.999% sure) its due to pirated games on a modded system
zingaa it could be someone collected points to help mod someones gamertag.
Purchasing is GT bannable
Sale is GT bannable
Transfer and theft is most likely Marketplace content duplication.
XBL Marketplace Content you buy is linked not only to your account but also your Xbox console you bought it on.
Example, my wife can play a jewel game event though I bought it. She can only play it on the console I used to buy it. As long as my name is attached to it she can play. That was my FIRST console that has my licenses on it.
The new one I got she cant play it on because only my GT info is on the new one.
Another example is the Mercury game. She can play the registered game no problem. But due to my mistake of getting the added DLC packs on the new console she cant use them on the old xbox.
Its complicated but most likely someone tried to use the same exact game license transfers on BOTH consoles for the same exact game.
OR someone hacked the "code" that unlocks the Marketplace content. You know that 4 meg file that auto unlocks a Marketplace game you fully downloaded the unlocked "demo" of.
Marketplace theift is changing the Demo parameters to think its a Full game then playing it.
startbuck - You should be able to do a Lic Transfer on the new console so she can play them there. If you don't log back into the Org console the Lic never updates and she can play them on there as well. (Atleast my friend can play my XBLA games on my old console after I did the lic transfer onto the new one)
And on topic - I hope they all get the 5000 day ban at the very lest.
starbuckfrack wrote:
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/41.aspx
See that page right there ? That is all the "future lost revenue" that Microsoft deals with in a daily basis. Multiply those amount of posts by at least ten. If these people want to play a game they put out hard money for they have to now spend 60 dollars on a NEW gamertag and they also lost their MS points ALL DLC for every game ever bought, and the time spent acheiving things.
http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_support/f/2366.aspx
See that one above ? Thats even more "future lost revenue". Those people not only have to deal with the same as the people above they also need to buy a new Xbox to do it.
Or all of them can go to the PS3 but they will be disappointed most likely.
Now you want a real BIG amount of "future lost revenue" ?
Back in 2009 Microsoft banned 1 million people from Xbox Live in one swoop. The one million people they banned were modding their console software and Gamertags. Some of those modders were using pirated copies of MW2 on those xboxes. They immediately lost all that "future revenue".
Some people MAY leave but more will take their place and the rest of the banned players will still crawl back to Microsoft. I mean if you own ten Xbox games, do you think its smart to buy a PS3 console AND those 10 games if available ? Or would it be cheaper and smarter to buy a new Gamertag and / Or console to play the games you still have ? The fact is the companies already have the money today. They still have 99 percent of the legit players and advertising to get in all the future revenue on everything.
If you are thinking along the line of "customer service" or "customer loyalty" then your thinking about nothing but what companies want you to believe.
Another example was the Netflix Price Raising from recent history. They expected a loss of 1 million customers by raising their prices. That is again their analysts stated "We will lose 1 million customers but still gain more income". Of course them raising their prices by at least 40 percent lost them 1.8 million out of the total 23 million they had instead
That was a dumb move. If they would have raised it gradually they would have probably saved a ton of those customers.
Now THAT is how to own a thread!
Heard a guy explaining this last night how to do it. I said yea and earn a reset or ban.
His exact words
Dont worry about it, IW never resets or Bans.
Go figure.
IW either starts doing something or this game is going to hell fast.
2 hours before you posted this you posted 402's twitter feed that they are on it ..its not going to be fixed till after holidays....
I feel like, one way or another, IW / Activision / Microsoft needs to set an example here.
intelitek wrote:
I feel like, one way or another, IW / Activision / Microsoft needs to set an example here.
They will. They're working on it.
@ starbuckfrack
You should be able to download DLC to any console you use - but ONLY your GT that paid for the DLC can use it. There are people that transfer it to flash drives, etc, then hack it on their pc so that any GT can play the DLC. Those are the ones that get banned.
My little bro has games that he's let me play. However, I had to log on with his GT to play the game. I could not play it with my account.
well technically you can... I did this with BFBC... I would log in with the second controller with my main account... and use the first controller for my second account... as long as the main account is signed in when you start the game up it will load just fine..... thyen you can sign out of your main account... or your brothers account... and it will still work... that way you are not "hacking" or "exploiting"... not sure how they feel about that but it does work...
I really dont know why people are complaining sooo much about this glitch/exploit. Its just like playing against somebody that stays at level 80 the whole time they own the game. Other than that, everything that the glitch gives the player doesnt have anything to do with anybody at all. Its not like the leaderboards were ever legit.
I really dont know why people are complaining sooo much about this glitch/exploit. Its just like playing against somebody that stays at level 80 the whole time they own the game. Other than that, everything that the glitch gives the player doesnt have anything to do with anybody at all. Its not like the leaderboards were ever legit.
Quote from fourzerotwo....
someone said "a freind" glitched him and will he get banned...
"Its quite possible that you might. The security team is doing temp bans, removing all tokens, and stat resets for boosting."
Wow! XBOX, IW, Sledgehammer, all of them say in their TOS don't glitch, don't exploit....don't do it.
The attitude here is screw it, they left it in there it's there mistake so why should I be banned. lol
I can see it now: Judege I did shoot that man, but guns kill people I know there is a law against doing it, but they didn't outlaw guns. So why should I be penalized?
Very scary attitudes
I don't know, man. I haven't tried any of the glitches that are being passed around the web. But if there are game glitches when it's released, it's not the consumers' fault. Why penalize us for that?
There are game testers who were hired in the quality assurance department that might not be doing their jobs. Not only that, but it helps the developers anyways. Why are there penalties for showing how flawed a game really is.
Interestingly enough, thinking outside the box reveals how smart people are on exploiting certain bugs. It should be rewarded and not punished, as long as the developers work hard on consistently making a better MW3 experience IMO.
I shall laugh when they are banned and come on here crying with horrible excuses.
The fact is now that 100000's of people have done the glitch, seems a bit silly they should ban every single one of them. I beleive they should set a cap... because i dont beleive a ban should be in affect for someone on -1, but should be for someone on -100-
No, every single one of them should get banned. IW needs to show people that doing any kind of glitch or hack will get you banned. If they don't, people will continue to do so, because there are very few repercussions.
Agreed. This glitch cannot be done on accident, and the only people who do these kinds of glitches are kids. So who cares if they get banned?
Im an adult myself and a number of my close friends have done the glitch, i think you are axting very niave by posting this, I dont think people should be banned, but the glitched should be patched, prestige tokens are one of the minor flaws in the game at the moment.
Im an adult myself and a number of my close friends have done the glitch, i think you are axting very niave by posting this, I dont think people should be banned, but the glitched should be patched, prestige tokens are one of the minor flaws in the game at the moment.
I'm sure there have been some bans issued, but not all culprits will be caught. I know of several people that have done this, so it'll be intresting to see if they recieve bans. Is it worth the chance? I don't think so.
There shouldn't be any suspension/reset/bans to anyone IMO. Just patch that sh*t.
Prestige Tokens become useless after prestige 10 anyhow.
you will get reset becuase most likely when they patch this it will reset/ban any one who did the glitch
you will get reset becuase most likely when they patch this it will reset/ban any one who did the glitch
• Yes they are being banned.
• Your peers gave you the link where Bowling spoke out about it.