Dec 20, 2011 8:56 AM
Is there a point of even running Assault killstreaks?
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I ask this because of how little difficulty it takes to even shoot down or destroy a killstreak.
The Stinger and Javelin are more than ample to take out even a Pavelow. The EMP and SAM turrets from the Support killstreak can bring down and AC130 with little effort.
If its that easy to shoot down an armed 'copter, why even use it?
I stopped using helicoptors since my first prestige. I only use user controlled killsteaks now and I am very successful with them. I usually run pred, reaper, AC-130(Which I have over 1000 kills with). I usually get 1-3 kills with my pred, 3-7 kills with my reaper, and 5-10 kills with my AC-130. Calling in the helicoptors, I am lucky to get 1-2 kills with them because of the blind eye users. At least with with the reaper and AC-130, I can kill the blind eyers after they shoot thier rocket at me.
Like I have said before, kill streaks rule this game .About 1/3 of my kills are Killstreak kills which is pretty sad of this game. In BO, I think only like 1/4 of my kills were from streaks.
If you are going to run assauly, I suggest not using the choppers. I still think the pavelow should have been a 10 streak.
Dont use a chopper. There is no reason to even go for the higher killstreak due to them not being worth the amount of effort it takes due to being shot down so quickly. I mainly run UAV, Carepackage, Pred and i wont go back. Carepackage drops so many good killstreaks it's not even funny.
The amount of effort for the normal average player isnt worth trying to go for the higher killstreaks. The better players will always run high streaks because they typically are able to get them in every game and those streaks can change the tempo of the game. But for the bad-average player, you should be running support or the low assault killstreaks.
Nah stop bullshitting your self mate. Running High killstreaks all the time is stupid on this game.
get the killstreak and it gets shot down before you can even get a good kill.
I would rather use 3-4-5.
Get 2-3 kills with a predator missile and constant care packages that can give you the best killstreaks like Ospreys. It takes 17 kills to get one but I get them in 3 kills? Yeah big big difference. Even the I.M.S gives you atleast 1 kill if you place it right. 6+ killstreaks are a waste of time unless the enemy team does not know how to take out killstreaks.
MisleDification wrote:
Nah stop bullshitting your self mate. Running High killstreaks all the time is stupid on this game.
get the killstreak and it gets shot down before you can even get a good kill.
I would rather use 3-4-5.
Get 2-3 kills with a predator missile and constant care packages that can give you the best killstreaks like Ospreys. It takes 17 kills to get one but I get them in 3 kills? Yeah big big difference. Even the I.M.S gives you atleast 1 kill if you place it right. 6+ killstreaks are a waste of time unless the enemy team does not know how to take out killstreaks.
Well running 5-9-12 has helped me to a 4.24 KDR and a 10.20 WLR. I am capable of getting those streaks 1-3 times a game depending on the gametype. And like I said before, I will get a good amount of kills with them no matter what. I wish that elite had stats to back up my claims but they dont. Ya sometimes my streaks get shot down really fast and I only get 2 or 3 kills from an AC or a reaper. But for the most part I will get 4-5 kills with the reaper and 7-12 kills with the AC.
So You keep waiting for your Care Packege and I will keep getting my 50-70 kill games.
owiseguyo wrote:
Well running 5-9-12 has helped me to a 4.24 KDR and a 10.20 WLR. I am capable of getting those streaks 1-3 times a game depending on the gametype. And like I said before, I will get a good amount of kills with them no matter what. I wish that elite had stats to back up my claims but they dont. Ya sometimes my streaks get shot down really fast and I only get 2 or 3 kills from an AC or a reaper. But for the most part I will get 4-5 kills with the reaper and 7-12 kills with the AC.
So You keep waiting for your Care Packege and I will keep getting my 50-70 kill games.
Do you have a group that you play with? Myself and my friends want to play you sooooo bad ![]()
Ya, my clan is The F1A2.
When are you guys typically on? We seriously want to play. You guys should crush us since none of us have above a 2.00 K/D.
its really not up to me to set up skrims for my clan. but you can request one on our clan feed if you want. I typically play from 3-7PM but you can get a match with my clan at almost any time.
It doesn't have to be with your clan. Just against you and your friends even. That's all I ever do...just play with my friends. We don't need permission to play or anything. I'm typically on around 7pm PST. What time zone are you in?
Eastern.
And most of my Xbox friends are in my clan. The ones who arnt dont play COD too often or are real life friends.
I will see If I can get 6 members for a skrim in the next two hours. Whats your Gamertag? Ill send you a Friend request If they want to do it. BTW, it would be domination if thats alright with you.
You have a good point, I like 3-4-5 too. Pred is guaranteed kill or 2 and you get them 4-5 times a game, Always nice to have a uav up, and care packages always give an i.m.s. or a predator = more free 1-2 kills.
I wouldn't say that too loud. The Next thing you know, MW3 will patch it to where care packages suck.
owiseguyo wrote:
...kill streaks rule this game .About 1/3 of my kills are Killstreak kills which is pretty sad of this game. In BO, I think only like 1/4 of my kills were from streaks...
I agree because if you recall when the game was revealed IW stated that it wouldn't be all about killstreaks and focus more on ground force combat... We see now that was a crock...
I dont think so FunnyLarry, they set the care packages up like that so even the bad/average players get a chance on using the higher kill streaks. Some of those players wouldn't have another chance to see inside a AC-130
I use predator missile, chopper, overwatch. Never usually have a problem with them and honestly, when they do get shot down, i don't even mind. if it got me kills then yay for me, if not then oh well. But i also mainly play domination and if the situation presents itself, i'd rather keep on going from 9 to 25 for the nuke lol
Assault streaks are terrible in this game and are frustrating to get. Always one kill off an ac130 and some kid spawns 10 feet from me. I play a lot smarter when i use assault tho, so I use them to boost my k/d. When i put on support, I just run around like an idiot and barely go positive.
My SAM Turret took out an AC130 in a matter of ten seconds. It was pretty funny.
Ive must have taken out 100 sam turrets with my AC-130. Its so eay to pick out because of all the missles it sends up. I just shoot my big gun at it and its gone. And after that, I still have two flares left.
Yes to get achievement xp and rank up.
Of course their is a point.
They have the best offensive KS to choose from. Also a major KS like AC-130's, Osprey Gunner's, and Juggernauts make for quite the distraction. Most people want it taken out quick so while the whole enemy team is distracted even for 10 seconds you got the rest or your team doing an objective.
Or you can be like me and just run Hardline Pro and only UAV. Every 2 consecutive kills you get a UAV and I've had it going where I kept a almost constant UAV up and half the time in turns in to a AUAV, because 3 UAV's going on the same team at once makes the map show as if their is a AUAV.
Not as many people are running Assassin then they used to and even if half the other team is, most the time the half that's not is hanging out or running with the people who are running Assassin. So it works good enough.
You will be surprised how much better your team does when you just spam that UAV. People an complain all they want but if their is a mini-map their Ill use it and Ill try and make my team get an advantage if I can.
TL;DR
Yes, run Hardline Pro with only UAV selected so you get a UAV every 2 kills and spam it. Once you get 3 in the air at once it makes an AUAV.
Assault is all i run. Support is for BK's that have no skill. I keep them simple and things that you cannot easily take out. I run care package, predator and AC-130. I do not run choppers because there is always someone waiting with blindeye to shoot it down. At least with the AC-130 you have flares and a few more moments to locate and kill that target.
Why not Osprey then? The fire rate on those is so much better than AC-130... for whatever reason I'm a spazz with AC-130, cycling through the guns and one is always loading and then.... oh F it.
The Osprey? I'm spamming the trigger and making it rain bullets.
And if you can keep it up long enough, you get the multi care package drop.
I have been finding that Sentry guns tend to rack up the most kills for me. If you are doing a domination spawn trap, you can easily get 3-6 kills with these things everytime you put them out. But remember, use them wisely, don't have them just guard an area, have them act as notice for when someone is in the area, then finish the guy off yourself.
Think of the assault package as a way to have a greater presence and to keep the enemy on their toes.
In essense, any of the lethal streaks let you work in two places at the same time. If you have a sentry or IMS guarding one flag, you can more easily afford to work on capturing another. Likewise the helicopters force the enemy to keep their heads down and otherwise distract them. Apart from the stealth bomber, support simply can't do the same. And specialists never could.
Granted, there are ways the enemy can get around this. Blind eye, SAM sites, stinger missiles, etc. But it still helps to be proactive and to force them to waste their customization just to keep a level playing field.
I only run assault on small type maps, or open spaces. And usually I'll go with Predator, Air Strike then Heli with hardline of course. Predator will get 1-2 kills, airstrike will get at least 2 or more depending on how well I place it and Heli will get at least 1 before being shot down. Thats at least 3-5 kills, so it's worth it. And I can usually get them 2-3 times within a match, so that could be anywhere from 5-12 kills extra a match. But it's not worth it for the higher up ones, because as you said you work for them then they get shot down. I'm fine with getting only 1 kill from the Heli, as opposed to maybe 1 kill from say the Osprey or even Pave Low where I had to work for it. Don't get me wrong, I can rack up the kills to get to them, but I want a payoff and its just not worth it sometimes.
I agree with everything you said. 5-6-7 is a great setup for getting kills, and you get rewarded quickly. It also makes the game a much more fun experience. Get killed one off an AC130 and you'll rage quit most likely. Get killed one off an Attack Helicopter- who cares? Theyre easy to get.
i switched from specialist to assault today using predator, air strike and attack helicopter, your right they are easy to shoot down but you gotta agree that they are also easy to get. and seen as you only need to get to your predator what almost always gets you to your hinde. and if not you have your air strike to get you there you can get all your killstreaks 3 or 4 times a game. so you can end up with anything between between 7 to 12+ kills a game just from these killstreaks it makes using the attack helicopter worth it in my opinion.
I stick to the Care Package, Predator Missile & Precision Airstrike setup.
At least with two of the assault pointstreaks, they don't get shot down unless a player is using a trophy system for the Predator Missile. (which is rarely seen)
Ya, letting the game play for you against Christmas noobs. ![]()
If my chopper's are being taken down quickly, I just stick to the IMS. They're actually fun to use as a pointstreak
Good one.
I IMS troll in Drop Zone by picking one up from a crate and saving it... until I need to waltz it into a DZ the enemy is holding with my IMS in tow.
Just toss in a couple of flash/stuns so they are distracted for a bit, drop it down and clear em out. BOOM! You usually get at least two, and I think I once got a multi kill doing this.
You also usually get shot doing this, but it's worth it for the Lulz.
Another great IMS troll spot is on Dome in the passageway outside the building between the dock and the upper level... stick one in the little space between the humvee and shipping crate... ba BOOM! Another is outside the entrance to the building just behind the hummvee... people spawn in the building, run outside and, OOPS.
^ I LoL'd!
But it is true, they get shot down horribly fast when I use them. I just mainly stick with specialist. Even if there is an EMP, you can still rack up the perks and get your XP. Which will get me more XP no matter what 90% of the time.