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  • cwatz Apprentice 642 posts since
    Oct 13, 2011
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    130. Dec 10, 2011 12:03 AM (in response to trialstardragon)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    I have zero acceptance for the support package.  Being granted killstreaks just because you joined a game is ridiculous.  It can be clouded however you want, but at the end of the day it was designed so bad players could still play with killstreaks (and powerful ones might I add). Its that simple.

     

    It  has nothing to do with rewarding "team based players".  That change  isnt part of the support package.  People can still be rewarded for objective capping and shooting down KS's.  Thats one thing I actually hope they carry over.

  • nightpr0wler76 Expert 1,917 posts since
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    131. Dec 10, 2011 7:57 AM (in response to bhavnit)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    I dont know why people say there is so much UAV spam in the newer games when the UAV was the only option as a killstreak in COD4 and WAW, and no one complained about the UAV in those games, its all in peoples heads, they are afraid to be on the radar now for some strange reason, the game was really built with the intentions that most players would show up on a UAV sweep to keep the game moving. In Core mode of course, HC was made for the players who wanted to play without the HUD, they really need to make the games like there were in COD4 and WAW, where core has most of the people on the HUD and almost no one is on the hud in HC.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,325 posts since
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    132. Dec 10, 2011 4:14 PM (in response to nightpr0wler76)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    Just so you can run-n-gun and chase red dots eh? No, I prefer being able to play tactically which means being able to be off the radar and not have to go to hardcore to do so. And yes in the newer games people learned how effective the uav was and teams began to spam it even mor then it was ever done in WaW.

     

    The game was not meant to be a rush fest all the time. It was not built around the fact of people needing to keep moving all the time. It has always had aspects of camping in the game. It was not made just for the adrenaline pumped rushers that need to chase red dots to have fun.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,325 posts since
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    133. Dec 10, 2011 4:20 PM (in response to cwatz)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    It is not ridiculous at all. And yes the support streaks were built around people being rewarded for helping there team and not just having to go kill kill kill all the time. And not only bad players use them. A lot of good players know the benefits of them and how effective they can be.

     

    This game is not all about gun skill that is only one aspect of the game. It is not all about shooting and now players that prefer to lurk and hide and defend/camp/set up shop can do so and still be rewarded for how they play. CoD may have started out as mainly a shooter but it has evolved and so has the player base. It is not just about the guns anymore.

     

    The support streaks are not that powerful really.. AUAV.. can be take down easily, or blocked.. uav, cuav same. Stealth bomber, only good on the smaller maps, almost useless on the larger maps. EMP.. perfect for the hhigh cost it has.

  • nightpr0wler76 Expert 1,917 posts since
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    134. Dec 11, 2011 10:19 AM (in response to trialstardragon)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    Actually the game was meant to be a rush fest, there were no silencers or perks when it first came out Trial, and yes there was no UAV sweep, but everytime you shot your gun, everyone knew where you were. You had no extra ammo perk, no equipment to watch your back etc,  So you are completely wrong in this instance.

     

    I dont think there should be a support package, if you die your stuff should reset, and I dont think you should get points for capping objectives, dumbs the gameplay down, people just rush in and die now, they dont go cautiously and use any tact.

     

    Im sorry that you are afraid to be on the radar, like I said, go play HC if you want that ultimate tactical experience, and people do get rewarded for playing tactical in Core with killstreaks and winning the game.

     

    You are assuming I am a rush and run and gunner, when I am not, I play a cautious game. that does not mean I cannot play that type of game while on the radar or off the radar, people confuse being tactical with being hidden, I get way more kills being on the radar because people come to me, so again you absolutely making false assumptions, I dont dot chase in any game mode bud.  Good players simply do not care if they are on the radar or not, all the good players I play with dont use Ghost Pro at all. And I would care to wager that they are way better than you and they for sure dont dashboard either.

     

    Please quit assuming that people who want the game to not go at a snails pace are dot chasers, because they are not, they just dont want TDM games going full time and having scores under 5000, its not what COD is about.

     

    The perks should go back to the way there were in COD4 and WAW, the best games imo, you should have to choose between extra health, extra bullet damage, full stealth, etc and equipment should go back to being a perk again, make the game somewhat competitive again, no offense, but I dont want developers taking players like you all that seriously, for the main reason you dont have a good handle on the game, you arent a good player so it shows you dont know how to take advantage of perk set ups and cetrain playstyles, I wont go as far to say as your a poor player, but you are a quitter, and I dont want the devs designing a game with the input of losers/quitters and poor players, when that happens you get games like MW3, and no one wants that, so please Trial, dont give any input in this thread.

  • trialstardragon Master 10,325 posts since
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    135. Dec 11, 2011 5:25 PM (in response to nightpr0wler76)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    You forget that times change and players change and games must change to keep up with them. So no the game is not meant just to be a rush fest anymore. It is built around tactics and strategy. It is not made just for the adrenaline pumped run-n-gun rushers anymore and never will be again.

     

    Competitive really? These games never were competitive.They are just video games and nothing more. It is people like you that think it has to be competitive to be fun that ruin the game for the casual gamer. This game is not a sport, it is meant to be played for fun and not some stupid ego/pride/vanity boosting that competitive players think it was meant for. If you need that from a video game then your life must not be that great. If you need to do good in a video game to feel good about the time wasted playing the game then again your priorties are messed up. Vidoe games are meant as a means to relax and enjoy yourself and not care about the rat race of life. And yes even CoD fits into that catergory for many players.

     

    Which is why many players do not care about k/dr or w/lr or trying for high ksr's. Which is why many of the so called bad players still play and have fun playing regardless of how they are doing and do not care if they get better or not. Because they are smart enough to realize it is not life and death and has no other function but to be a means of entertainment and nothing else.

     

    Just because I leave games when I do not like the lobby or the spam of certain ks does not mean I am quitter. I bought the game to have fun, not so the other team could have fun at my expense. And that is the same reason that millions of other players buy these games too, To Have Fun, not just for some silly stats or numbers or a scoreboard. And the devs have to listen to that. Because if the game is not fun then sales will drop and they will not make as much money on the next game.

     

    You may not like a game running out of time but that is not to say that others do not. It is not always about getting to the full score to win. It is which ever team has the highest score when the time runs out. The limit was just added in as another means to end the game before the timer runs out. Not that it has to be reached each and every game. It was added to prevent players from boosting and getting ridiculously high scores and exp in each game. It was added to make those that want the final score to be reached for what ever reason to have to move around and search for enemies to kill. Where those that are just as happy and have just a much fun staying in one area can do the same and win too if it does not reach the end score limit.

     

    You assume that you know what CoD is about when your view is no more valid then mine or anyone elses. And I will continue to give input on this thread regardless if you do not like it. That is my right as a forum member and not yours to say otherwise.

  • diese9012 Calculating status... 9 posts since
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    136. Dec 11, 2011 6:21 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

         I respect you for making this thread that you will read and I hope that you will take everything I say into consideration. The first thing that needs to be implemented is the fact that you as a team need a suport thread much like Dice is doing with BF3. No game is perfect right when it comes out and it's up to you guys to fix them. Weather its weapon buffs, weapon nerfs, or even perk balance. You guys are on the ball with patching glitces, and hacks, but weapon tuning needs to be improved a bit because the shotguns were out-classed by the Assult Rifles in this game becides the spaz-12, and some of the smg's could've used a buff too. That is why you need to listen to the community, and make support threads that your team will read so you can get ideas about how to tune the guns. If 1 gun is used 99% of the time by 75% of the people then more than likely that will have to be addresed like the famas for example... If people say a gun isn't OP and they use it 99% of the time, please don't take them seriously because they just want an edge over the people not using it.

     

         People who may flame you and get mad just want the game to be better. I won't/don't flame, but I do agree with some of their complaints. This franchise has potential, more so than what it is and ever was, and there are just these little things that are blocking the way. I hope to give you ideas of how to fix them to make the best game of all time, but its what you put in that makes it good, or makes it ok.

     

         The first thing that the WHOLE community wants is servers in general. They will fix many issues like host dashboarding so you cannot finish a game, framerate issues, bad host issues, and the hit detection will be spot on. If activision will not let you, I understand, but if you have a poll I garuntee that having it will win by an overwhelming amount. If you cannot get enough servers then add a p2p system as well, but make it search for close servers first.

     

    -Bring back theater mode, but make it better by combining clips from other games into one at a maximum of 10 min.

    -No deathstreaks... period... if your forced to then add stuff like copycat, juiced, but nothing with explosives, last stand, or radar.

    -make shotguns like mw2 w/o SP

    Killstreaks (don't care if a ps, or a ks) is the main issue I want solved other than perks. Split it into 3 categories like in MW3, but do it like this:

         Assult - make the uav a 6 ks, no rcxd, and make them stack. when you are done with the highest ks start over again 1 more time instead of an infinit amount of times. Implement a new 3 ks that lasts for 1 min and detects people on the radar who are not moving for more than 5 sec. and have them on the radar for 30 seconds. if this ks was in the air for 50 sec. for ex. and someone doesn't move for 5 seconds it woud show them then for 30 seconds even when the ks is gone (something like the radio that the enemy has keeps beeping and will show them on the radar like the UAV). Bring back dogs, and gunship as a 14 ks.

     

         Support - the ks i said above, and make the UAV a 6ks. Bring back the SR-71 as a 12 ks. Make this ks system reset when you die unlike in mw3.

     

         Specialist - Same as in MW3.

     

    When you first get the game you have assult, support, and Specialist unlocked at once. Assult would have stopping power, support will have juggernaut, and speciaist would have the assasin version of ghost. When you use the ks enough it will rank up so you can get the perks pro, then you can choose from the other 2 perks from the other ks. Specialist will also have a new ks at 15 kill/point so you can get the other 2 perks as well. Snipers cannot have stopping power, but when they shoot juggernaut users, juggernaut won't work like SC with shotguns so the snipers will be balanced.

     

    -Make a 30 gun only ks the atomic bomb which will kill the whole enemy team and have a blackbird up for 2 min.

    -Don't care about camo other than make gold look good, and have a new harder to get platinum camo that looks great.

    -Make the port to the ps3 as good as the xbox version... have testers test ps3 too (try and have an open beta if you have time too).

    -Everything else was perfect in bo mp wise and if I have any other ideas I will post it...

     

    Also make a new 6 player zombie map as sometimes I want to play zombies with 6 of my freinds, have double pakapunch(5000 then 10000 pts), and a new storage are where you can buy wonder weapons for 15000-30000 points, and ammo 10000 pts. have a new objective to get the storage area open, and a secret area for a new "ammo-matic" where you pay 20000 pts to get full ammo on every gun, and any kind of attachment you want for a certain price (again have another objective to get this as we start to get higher in rounds it gets boring doing the same thing.)

     

    I hope you have success with your next title, and I want it to be great and not just good like the past few cods.

  • supernova6 Newbie 22 posts since
    Dec 4, 2011
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    137. Dec 12, 2011 10:26 AM (in response to diese9012)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    Maybe add a special game mode that every few days has a different game mode ideas, such as the express playlist, moshpit, infection and so on. At the end of each match there will be a vote on how the game mode was. If a certain game mode is popular enough it will be added to the playlist either permently or for a week or two.

     

     

    response to post above I'm not sure how I like the idea of the modern warfare killstreaks set up so I can't say much now but I like the idea of a harder camo and maybe add a pack a punched camo. The six person zombies I'm also not sure how that could work out, maybe they could do some testing on that. It would come in handy when I 3 friends playing and one more wants to join. Also host migration for zombies is a must. Also (I doubt this though) custom maps for zombies.

  • nightpr0wler76 Expert 1,917 posts since
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    138. Dec 11, 2011 8:35 PM (in response to trialstardragon)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    Trial, please stop cluttering this thread with your babbling, people need to get their voice's heard, no offense, but Vahn and the Treyarch staff do not take dashboarding players serious, although i found it entertaining that you thought if you were the host and dashboarded near the end of the game when you were getting spawn raped that it negate everyones kills and deaths when it does not.

     

    This lack of intelligence that you have shown is not the kind of advice Treyarch will be looking for when making the game better, hopefully they take something away from Halo and Gears so when people like yourself who are chronic dashboarders, get a penatly and cant play online for a certain period after, you are part of the problem in the community, and the game would be better without you in it, I know you have lots of excuses, i get in a laggy game I dashboard, I join a losing game I dashboard blah blah, but seriously, just give up, if its only a game like you say, then why dashboard? Why not just leave the game, or are you trying to inflate your stats in some sort of way?

  • trialstardragon Master 10,325 posts since
    May 26, 2011
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    139. Dec 12, 2011 7:20 PM (in response to nightpr0wler76)
    Re: Unofficial Feedback Thread

    Cod will not ever have the quit ban. Bungie added that and it failed, people still quit out of matches all the time. it did nothing to stop it from happening and never will in any game ever.

     

    Your view of what is good or better for then game is no more valid then mine or anyone else that just plays the game for fun and not silly stats or to be competitive. So yes 3arc does listen to players like me just as much as they those obessed with stats and being try hards like you.

     

    And again I will point out it is not your position to tell me to not post in the thread. So stop trying to tell me that for it will not work ever.

     

    exiting does negate the deaths if you are the host. You know when you get that server connection lost error message. It means no data from the host was uploaded to the servers. And it is on the host that all the game play data is stored and uploaded from. Ever had the lobby after the host exited show all zero's? that is because all data was lost from the last game played in most cases.

     

    And yet you still you have not quite figured out I do not dashboard, I sign out there is a very big difference in what happens and how it affects the game. Dashboarding/Exiting the game takes you back to the home menu. You then have to reload and start the game again. Signing out does not. You just need to sign back in and you are back in a game in moments compared to the minutes it takes waiting for the game to restart over again. Therefore signing out is faster and wiser to do then exiting to the home menu. Since with the last update it is now the home menu and no-longer called the dashboard anymore. So when people do it they are not dashboarding but exiting the game now.

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