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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 9:40 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
So you knew that something you didn't like was going to be in the game and you..still...bought it?
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 10:00 PM (in response to theatriks)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Everything was unveiled @ CoD XP, form there we put out input in. I had to buy the game to se if they changed anything @ all, or If we jsut blew everything out of Porportion, guess we didn't
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 9:53 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Three options
1. Stop playing and go away
2. Understand assassin play style and learn to use you eyes
3. Just put up with it and stop the incessant childish whinning
Plenty run assassin, I don't, both choices are perfectly fine. Grow up OP and learn to play the game.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 9:59 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
You do have one thing that that setup is weak against. YOUR EYES!
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 10:10 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
One: Its in the game.
Two: If used aginst you time and time again Leave the game, (or - Step up the GamePlay - Make a Class to counter it. Learn the Two diffrent Skins for the Teams, and if all elc fails, FIRE THE GUN! )
Three: Pull the plug outa the wall and sell it.
Because Just like -Fight Aginst Grenade Spam- F-A-G-S Your bitching is just offensive to the real players!
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 10:19 PM (in response to Xaeros)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Your Obvious troll is Obvious.
It's kind of hard to kill people who use this when they find a corner, pitch the tent, and roast some marsh mellows.
Theres 1 counter to Assassin in the game, and that's recon drone. That being said, you can only counter it if you find the person, which... if they have Blind Eye, they won't show up as a red box, so your kind of flying blind.
Real Players? how is people that want to use some stupidly OP setup to hide form everything in the game being a real player? I real player wouldn't even touch those perks.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 10:21 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Watch your corners. Is that too hard?
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 8:27 AM (in response to asianman12)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
There are hundreds of corners and nooks in every map, if you tried to play like you say, it would take you ten minutes to get from one end of the map to the other, use your head.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 9:23 AM (in response to nightpr0wler76)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
no there are not nearly as many nooks and crannies to hide in in this game, you must be getting confused by every other game in between MW1 and MW3
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 4:41 PM (in response to nightpr0wler76)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
so what if it takes ten minutes to check every nook and cranny. And if it is any consolation. It doesn't take ten minutes. You are exaggerating to try and make a point. If you were more aware of your surroundings you wouldn't have a problem checking your corners each time you walk into an empty room.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 10:30 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Use the perk recon then it counters assasin, you have to understand stealth is a major tactic, and possibably the best one, use assassin if there's to many heartbeat sensors, I don't use dead silence since in GW it's awaste of a perk, and no it's not newbish you calling it newbish, is newbish, 99 percent of the time I don't look at my radar since I die more times looking at it than not. Also learn to sense where people are. It's also an amazing way to counter the support package. Just don't camp that's the only newbish thing about this setup is when people camp, no it's not op, it counters op stuff.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 10:36 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
i use blind eye/assasin/stalker on all my ar classes soooo what? i dont like dying to killstreaks if anything killstreaks are lame person x camps person y (retard) walks over to person x ten times and gets killed and the rest of person y's team gets punished for it wtf gtfo of here with that bs and i use assasin because i chase dots all day every day i know how you people think i dont want to be on your radar no easy kills for you...dead silent what is that??
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:11 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
"this game is more noob friendly"
>implying noobs know how to abuse assassin and blind eye
noobs are stupid, noobs see Quickdraw, and SoH, they pick those perks, they dont play smart, they run and gun
so if you wanna whine about MW3 catering to intelligent people who kno how to abuse these perks, go ahead, too bad noobs are noobs and the only kills they get are from Deadmans hand
gtfo
go complain about ghost, that one perk made you immune to everything and it was in 1 Perk, and you did not have to sacrifice anything for it, and EMP should be countered because it is incredibly easy to get in this game, only countered by 8 and 11 killstreaks
go complain about something legit, like the terrible spawn system in KC and Domination or how the Type 95 insta kills short-med range as an assault rifle (they may have fixed it this patch, but i dont see FMGs being nerfed, so i assume they havent rebalanced anything yet)
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:24 PM (in response to Joe8beast)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Lol, No. true player don't need to be immune to killstreaks and radar to play well. I never used ghost in Black Ops other than to shoot down air support
Ghost could be countered by Black Bird, which also couldn't be shot down.
Adv UAV which is the Black Bird equiv. in MW3 has no use other than a directional UAV.
The fact that there is no counter to assassain is what I'm getting at. Even if they amde it to Adv UAV let you see Assassin user, but could be shot down I'd be happy. As for the EMp other than assassin there ino counter to an emp being up at all. Anyone that doesn't have assassin pro will have to blank hud for 60 seconds.
The spawns are bad in every game type other than SND and Demo. The Type 95 will always be in insta 3 round Close up, as is every assult rifle, and SMG. yes, the FMGs and the Type 95 got nerfd.
I still don't see what you are trying to say. Like I stated, Good player will use thigns like Quick Draw and SoH because they don't need the advantage of not being seen. Only people who activley camp, or creep around corners need Blind Eye, and Assassin.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:27 PM (in response to Joe8beast)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
I LOVE BLIND EYE,ASSASSIN , AND DEAD SILENCE , FOR THE FACT I LOVE TO RUN AND GUN. AND LOVE CATCHING POEPLE HIDING IN THE CORNERS LIKE LITTLE GIRLS. I HATE HIDING IN A CORNER WITH MY BACK AGAINTS THE WALL LIKE 80 OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS GAME DOES BUT YEAH TO EACH HIS OWN . I PRIDE MYSLEF KNOWING THAT I HAVE A HIGHER K/D RATIO RUNING AND GUNNING THEN PEOPLE HIDING IN THE CORNER.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:23 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Posts like this really crack me up. As someone mentioned above, no noob uses any of these perks. I primarily play hardcore, and you wouldn't believe how many people don't run any of these three perks. It's funny, good players utilize these setups because they know they give you an advantage. You get killed by someone using the setup, so therefore they are a "noob." Sorry, but I don't agree. Yes I am not a fan of the heartbeat sensor. But honestly this game is so full of red-dot-chasers and complainers, it's hilarious. If I get killed by someone running assasin when I'm looking at a radar instead of my screen, I blame myself. Maybe a few more people would do better to take on that philosophy.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:24 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 4:32 AM (in response to atiredoldguy)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Very sound assessment and down right assuming. Thankyou old guy.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:25 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
get real guys noobs use this set up too its not rocket science to think hey if im not on the map they will be chasing everybody else
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:33 PM (in response to soooo)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
soooo wrote:
get real guys noobs use this set up too its not rocket science to think hey if im not on the map they will be chasing everybody else
This is not true at all. Because 9 times out of 10 any "noob" I'm in a game with shows up on the UAV and gets killed by the killstreaks I'm using. I'd say this logic is extremely flawed
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 9, 2011 11:37 PM (in response to VanillaFlava)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
this is not true at all. because 9 times out of 10 any noob im in a game with does not show up on the uav. your logic is flawed
you see what i did there??
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 12:12 AM (in response to soooo)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Oh noez some people don't show up on my minimap crutch how on earth will I ever kill them?!
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 12:19 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
A real player wouldn't use those perks? That's funny, to say I use blind eye / assassin / sitrep pro. Yet I run and gun, have a 2.4 + k/d, a 17.0 w/l and am atleast in the top 200 players in the world. You need to shut the **** up and learn to play. The only thing you said that is true is that there is no counter to assassin. The adv uav does need to be changed to ignore assissin, and portable radars should also show people with assassin. That is all that needs to be changed.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 12:43 AM (in response to uG I FLAME)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Cool Story, I have a 2.5 KD Overall, and a 2.7 in FFA while run and gunning. I was top 25 World for FFA and 50 for Kills until I hit 10th and stopped caring. As for a a 17.0 w/l? You must get real lucky with not joining games that are already over and people dashboarding. then again, it depends on what gametype you play, how often you dahsboard etc.
On a further note, after looking for your gamertag, I don't see a profile under that name, so theres a good chance you're jsut making up random stats.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 1:02 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Actually, my gamertag is oBLACKIE CHANo......
And wow, you play ffa, you mean you camp in a corner and then pretend you're good at the game. And i rarely play alone, I only play in 6's, wich are made of just as good players as me, all 2.5 - 4.0 k/ds I even play with some mlg players and against alot of mlg teams, beat them every time. And I only dashboard when I do play by myself and I join a game that has already started and I have no chance of winning.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 1:24 AM (in response to uG I FLAME)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
I played FFA due to the shitty servers when the game launchaed, and actually the only time I stopped moving in FFA was usually to reload. You're W/L reflect that of a Team, if you had a 17 W/L by yourself i'd give you credit. When you play with 5 other good people, and 2/3 of the teams you face are randoms. You shouldn't be boasting.
And after actually looking at your player page. That KD really isn't impressive. You only roll strike packages, Meaning you depend on your killstreaks for the kills. I use nothing but Support, that being Hack package, ADv Uav, Emp or Adv, Stealth, Emp. Streaks don't make you good. Your KD reflects that, if you use just strike, your KD should be higher than it is. Take them off, use support. Rely on just your gun, I'm betting you can't keep a 2.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 1:52 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
@Paddi
I agree Assassin needs a counter, id even be happy with Marksman as a good counter to it, Quickdraw and Hardline arent nearly as powerful imo. Recon isnt really a hard counter to it, because it relies on you not killing the guy to make him appear on radar, for 12 seconds, its good for flashbangs, but thats about it (and assists paired with hardline pro)
Also i was saying, the only counters to Ghost in BlOps were 8 and 11 killstreaks, which basically werent very reliable, it was a very OP perk in BlOps because it virtually had no competition and it countered so much, inb4 you make some invalid argument against by tossing your opinions around
And i chuckled at you saying "im too good to be seen"
Enjoy eating some bullets as u turn a corner because that UAV doesnt think you are "too good" and then i bet you get mad, and call the other team campers, because your too stupid to realize Assassin is a legit perk, sure QD would be a competative perk, and i think QD users NEED quickdraw for kills because their map awareness is so lousy they dont kno when to ADS and prefire around corners (unless u want quick equipment for objective games, i get that, i love quick flashbangs)
yes i kno i contradicted myself by using opinions, but you have to fight fire with fire, and i was trying to make a point
By saying Assassin is a noob only perk, thats essentially showing how big of a noob you are
and the Type was OP, it was a 2 shot kill med-short range, and it fired in quick bursts of 3, there was no time to react to the shots, it was essentially a very versatile sniper rifle, your lack of understanding of that only furthers the conclusion i was trying to make by stating youre a noob and what you think is purely based on opinions and what im assuming was some very terrible gameplay on your part
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 3:29 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
Not being the best player at this game i have to admit to using all those perks while using the type 95, however no silencer, i have this one set i use for the larger map (s) normally the underpass,a lot of the younger players have a more quicker reaction than i do so anything that will give me a slight advantage then i will use them ,despite what other players might think,
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 4:37 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
ok, first i have to say that this really isnt a big deal since most people dont even use this setup. second, you shouldnt be running around like a mad man and not checking your corners. third, learn all the camping spots on the maps,i have and i know what to expect. sometimes i get killed but others i dont. fourth, if they piss you off that much, THEN TUBE THE LIVING HELL OUT OF THEM! its not that hard. you would be surprised at how much a lot of campers rage at getting tubed out of their camping spot. and fifth, Assassin is countered not only by the Recon drone but also the Recon perk. learn your perks.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 8:23 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
hmm another person crying bout perks first off if u was this GREAT player like u mentioned u woulndt be on here complainin about how some people play the game 2nd they did give counters to assassin and blind eye and dead silence its called the xm25 baby lots of tubes for lots of corners u being the GREAT player u are i figured u would know this 3rd why even cry bout how someone else plays i dont see them on hear whining bout you and the way u play maybe u need to look at you and your play style and adapt to the game u playing FFA where everyone camps to win and last but not least lets remember this is a war simulation game u dont see us troops running down the middle of the street spraying at Ghads they move slow and wipe em clean
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 8:48 AM (in response to pbomadbrute)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
@Paddi
everyone is trying to looking good with saying : im top this im top that.DO YOU KNOW THAT LEADERBOARDS IS THIS GAME DOESNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HOW GOOD A PLAYER IS YOU BRAINLESS NOOBS. IF YOU WAS NUMBER 1, IT DOESNT SAY HOW GOOD YOU ARE IT SAYS HOW ''NO-SOCIAL LIFE '' YOUVE GOT. STOP TALKING CRAP ABOUT YOUR NOLIFEBOARD...
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 11:44 AM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
If it bothers you that much quit playing. Thread after thread of rehashed whining and people keep coming back for more. go enjoy BF3 or something, it's not IW fault you purchased the game or still play it (if you are still playing it). There are a lot of things I'm not happy with, with their final product, but none of the issues are going to have me making retarded posts about things that really don't need to be nerfed. For every perk, weapon, playstyle there is a counter. learn, and adapt. And for the record a couple of my class setups are all three of those perks with suppressors on my guns, and yes sometimes I camp, I'm also not a good player. Get over it. I have a life, If things get too out of hand I take a break from the GAME and keep in mind that its for entertainment value that mostly caters to what you people call "noobs" and keep it moving. If you're going to be masochistic quit crying about it.
I'm not good by any means but I'm certainly not the worst player out there.
1.90 K/D
25% accuracy
and 44% win ratio
Nothing special about that.
TLDR: Man up, quit whining, it's a game, have fun or quit complaining about things that really don't need to be changed. Instead focus on lag comp, hit markers, an option to turn off Aim assist in MP, some larger maps and some other things need to be changed (improved), cause this game is far from perfect.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 1:12 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
I haven't read all of your comments throughly and I know people have mentioned this before but you seem to be running from the question, but why don't you just sell the game?
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 3:40 PM (in response to c0ug3r)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
seriously, arguing about who has a better KDR, who's ranked higher in the leaderboards. good for you....does that pay your bills? Oh wait, no. That's your mom and dad. seriously. it's a game. GET OVER IT. It's been said, you obviously just want to run and gun and not check corners. OH NO! There's someone camping with blind eye and I can't see his red box!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he was really "Camping" then you'd be smart enough to know where to set up the drone to find and mark him....but I'm sure you'll come up with some other D-Bag response as to why YOUR version of how things should be make more sense.
Plain and simple, get a life Tubby. Sunlight may do you some good as well. because we ALL know THIS kid is YOU.
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Currently Being ModeratedDec 10, 2011 4:15 PM (in response to Paddi)Re: Blind Eye, Assassin, Dead Silence Aka "The invisible perk Setup." We knew about it before release, and it didn't get changed.
I completely agree.
Although, I'm completely fine with people rushing with Assassin. Other than that, this perk is annoyingly abused.
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