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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 6:12 PM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Will someone please tell me why Assasin users shouldn't be albe to use the mini map makes any sense? That's like saying people using Hacker Pro shouldn't be able to use Motion Sensor in BO, or Ninja users shouldn't be able to use heartbeat sensors in MW2. Quit relying on red dots to get your kills and STFU.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 6:23 PM (in response to SuddenlyAlive13)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
If we cant See Assassin users, Why should they be aloud to see us? Theres no other Perk in the Perk 2 Slot nearly as powerful as the Assassin and Its just over running the game because people know its overpowered, Nothing can even counter it... Not even the Advanced UAV.
By the way... I dont count on Red dots. I dont need a UAV to help me out, I usually run Specialist now. But when one of my Team mates have a UAV up, Of Course Im going to take advantage of it, And when half the Team are running the same Crappy Perk, UAV becomes useless, Or if your Running towards a person near by on the Radar. Then suddenly an Assassin pops out and shoots you from nowhere. I just feel Cheated.
By the way, Theres no need to be agressive. I didnt mean to Offend you and your Besty, Assasin

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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 8:30 PM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Ok, let's apply that to other situations.
Blind Eye users? Can't use any killstreaks that they are hidden from.
Stalker Pro users? Can't use Claymores/Bouncing Betties.
Blast Shield? Can't use explosives
Hey, if you're going to apply it to Assasin, at least apply it to ALL perks you hypocrite.
Recon can counter Assasin. So can the recon drone. HURRRRRRRRR
So you don't count on red dots to get your kills, but you're angry that when you're chasing a red dot and an assasin user kills you? Yea... that makes perfect sense. UAV needs a counter. Did you play the express playlist in BO?
Quickdraw is by FAR the best tier 2 perk, at least for my playstyle. I got Assasin Pro before I prestiged and havn't used it since. I think it's on one class that I don't even use.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 8:34 PM (in response to SuddenlyAlive13)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
haha suddenly ur a assassin faget haha your a joke
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 5:31 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
If you don't chase red dots then why is assassin such a bother to you?
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 7:16 PM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Okay, first off I assume you are the guy that has his eyes glued to the mini-map. Assassin is being used so much due to the UAV spammers, the UAV is support needs to be moved to atleast 5 kills seriously 5 seconds into gaves at least 3 UAVs are up. Unless the UAV spam stops I'll run my assassin on 2/7 classes.
Counters to assassin:
Recon/Pro - Makes them as moving red arrows
Recon drone - Constant red dots.
Its not the assassin users that are the problem its the UAV being to easy to achieve.
I agree FMG akimbo needs to be nerfed - its fire-rate at the least, you can troll a juggernaut with 1 clip.
Stealth bomber is kind of annoying but it usually targets the place where the majoirty of my team mates are and I don't move with my team mates (Randoms) but yeah it needs to be moved from support.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 7:27 PM (in response to fantasmo)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Theres hardly any UAV Spam now because so many people Use Assassin. I was also pissed about the UAV Spam, But as more people Got to levels where they could actually Change their killstreaks theres hardly any. Im expecting this to change Christmas again because there will be another ton of people who have just got the game and are at Started Levels.
As to your Counters, What Good is Recon Pro going to do..... Really. I should use up a valuble Perk just to have a useless Dot on a Noob... Its not Really Countering, Once hes dead, Hes off the map again... And as I said, I use Specialist and I cant be arsed to waste time running about in a stupid remote control Helicopter tagging people for the sake of 50 XP and by the time your off of it All the people you tagged are DEAD!
And really.. People need to stop with the Red Dot or Mini Map BS. Read the Above post and you will realise I dont use UAV nor Have my eyes Glued to the Mini Map, I dont need the Mini Map, Im not bothered about Being on the Map, Im not bothered about Constant UAV Spam, Im just bothered about People using Assassin because theyre Afraid of being on a Mini Map.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 7:34 PM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
You asked for counters though, those are the only actual counters if I'm correct. Anyway I can't agree with you on the little to no UAV spam, today I've played around 10 games every single one of them there was constant "Enemy UAV spotted" - it wasn't even new players it was level 80s 2nd and 3rd prestiges just constantly throwing them up there.
If Assassin is nerfed it should remove:
- Counter UAV
I don't really see anything else effecting it that much. EMP doesn't really do anything anyway no KS can be thrown up so no more UAVs until its done, the only thing the assassin user gains from being safe from EMP is a non fuzzy screen. Its not so much the perk as the people abusing it (i.e coner campers)
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 8:41 PM (in response to fantasmo)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I run Assassin on everyone of my classes. I won't even lie. I mostly play TDM or Kill Confirmed. I just get so sick of hearing Enemy UAV Spotted every 10 seconds.It just annoys me that I can't get my killstreaks because people are waiting around corners for me to come. if UAV was a higher killstreak, less people would run Assassin. I used to run nothing but Quickdraw for my first prestige. I'm now a 3rd and have a really high KDR thanks to Assassin.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 8:35 PM (in response to fantasmo)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
ur an assassin troll to your sad bro and i bet ur kd is still negative!!
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 1:18 AM (in response to cbk_endin-it-bch)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Really kid? You sound like you're about 12 so you shouldn't even have the game.
1) K/d has no relevance, but if you must know, mines 2.56
2) I've probably captured a hell of alot more captures than you
3) Grow up
So what people use what they want? They're giving up a second perk slot to hide from UAV and to counter CUAV, they're still susceptable to air support, so you can go on complaining but to be honest, it's people like you that ruin the game.
Tipsy
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 1:06 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Akimbos will get their nerf so I read.
Stealth bomber is obviously too good as a 14 support streak. Should be a 9 or 10 Assault streak imo. While the precision airstrike can move to support. But then again since the jugg nerf I never use support myself anymore. Support is in the game for new players, "team" players / radar whores and blind rushers who die a lot and end up losing their streaks, the devs probably feel they deserve some fun as well. If they nerf support streaks more, more people will also start camping for their assault streaks. Both then again the stealth bomber is really too good as a 14 support streak.
Assassin is fine imo, a split up Ghost in basic but more advanced in the things it does not get with blind eye being another perk now, balanced. The mini map / uavs should only be used as indication radars people should not looking at it constantly and pay attention to their eyes more. Without it in the game support streaks would really be OP.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 29, 2011 9:31 PM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
20 for moab? uhhh NO
moab isn't a thing that everyone is allowed to get, it takes time, practice, setting things up right, having the right perk setups what specialist package, what attachment on your weapon, what weapons, they should keep it 25...
stealth bomber is a little over powered i agree but you can be protected from it, even in buildings...just make sure your INSIDE not next to a open door/window cuase the if the bombs hit next to that and not on top of roof, your dead =\
akimbo is a bit over powered........they need to shorten the range......even when i use them, if i TAP trigger and your medium range to almost FAR i can kil you in 2 taps..... i think thats pretty insane (but tight)
in black ops akimbo/duel's was awesome you'd win fire fights cause you didn't have to aim down sights, but RANGE sucked.......
and assassin isn't over powered.....i think its awesome.... i use it at times cause people hunt the red dots, and it ruins the game....i'll get 2 kills and see someone coming hide and know he didn't see me, and he'll come around the corner pre-firing... thats more annoying than a camper in the corner... or someone laying down/camping...
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 1:38 AM (in response to tgi)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I want to get notice when my Claymore/Betty or what ever goes of !
Bring that indicator + Sound BACK !
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 1:39 AM (in response to tgi)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I run assassin about 90% of the time.
I always have and always will, not because it is overpowered but because it is my style.
Some people like stealth, and although it may get 'cheap kills' there are several downsides.
It is often used with a silencer (otherwise you show on the minimap) which means long range kills can be difficult and you can often lose out in a 1 v 1.
Kill cams put a snuffer on anyone hoping to sit in one place undetected all games. Tell me another perk that is retrospectively countered by killcams?Killcams OP...? No ofcourse not.
Assassin and its counterparts have been in so many cod games I think its clear to see that it is not a gamebreaker. It is already split in to two perks, and not just one anymore if you want blindeye as well!
I think it has been very well balanced
P.S. I can be a heartbeat whore at times too.
Somethings are unbalanced in the game but not by design.
For me, this is not one of them. Perks are tried and tested and overall I think they are spot on.Some weapons do seem oddly powerful (FMG9 Akimbo) and I believe unintentionally so
As for the stealth bomber....well I agree that as a support package pointstreak it is rather out of place. At least the Support air drop can be shot down.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 1:39 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I am so amazed at all these posts. "I can´t handle the weapon X and the euipment Y in your game, please nerf." Everyone has something they want tweaked taken away or changed, why don´t you guys get toghether t make your own FPS.
Although it would probably suit you great it will probably be like the game "Cowboys" I had on my Atari Console 1981 where you have one gun, no change in bulletdamage or time to ADS.
Two cactuses served as cover so there were no camping either.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 1:44 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
another looser crying lol.. Cry baby cry...
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 4:27 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Op I got a kick out of your post saying people using assassin are window and corner campers. So you know I use assassin and furtheist thing you would find from any kind of camper. I use assassin since their are so many uav's running all the time and I like to stay off the radar so I can sneak to objectives and sneak upto enemies, but the way you make it sound those using stealth are stupid? wouldnt we actually be the smarter ones for staying off the radar?
As for you not liking seeing somone on the map you go after him and somone kills you while your going after them because their using assassin well thats your own fault you should never just run to a red dot and should always be aware of your environment. ForrestGump once had a post and a vid of him walking the map instead of running everywhere and honestly it works great my game has really improved. What makes it work so well is because of the screwed up spawn system and those using assassin.
As for stealth bomber I hardly ever die from it so dont find it to be a big problem. Akimbo FMG's can get annoying but I use M9akimbo's and have dropped many Fmg akimbo users so no issue their for me.
This is all just my opinion but I have a feeling your one of those players that cry no matter how you die...am I right? see I feel if you encounter a player using a M203 you will frantically call him a noobtuber and say its a cheap kill even though he may not have been able to get at you with his gun. I bet your also the player that somone may have ran the map looking for you so he stopped a sec behind a box you came upon him he jumped out and killed you I bet you would cry foul calling him a corner camper? sorry but I see many players like you online that cries foul every death on cheap kills just because you suck

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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 6:55 AM (in response to x_Elite_x)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I actually run around playing Stealth, Believe it or not. I run Hardline on every one of my Classes. I dont suck that bad either. I play TDM Mostly Solo and my TDM KDR Is 2.22 And overall 2.7 I think, Not great but I think thats ok. I actually like being on the Map, Because that way I have to take my Time, Watching my back and I find it fun getting a good Killstreak or my Specialist Killstreak knowing Ive killed 7 people without them being at a disadvantage of me wearing Assassin.
And yeh, As I said I hardly chase dots around the Map and to correct you IF ONE IS CLOSE BY, I will approach it as an Instinct.. And Im sure you would do to.
And, no Im not crying, Im just pointing a few things out and having my matter of Opinion, Is that a crime? I spend most of my Time playing Black ops right now.
As for crying everytime I get killed, No Im not worried if someone kills me In a good Mannor. But when peope sit in a dark corner looking down their sights thatre fixed on a door way while wearing Assassin that pisses me off, Same as noobs who sit in the 100 Windows in every Map of this game.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:04 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Ok i easily agree with everything BUT the stealth bomber... lol Look up into the sky theres a HUGE ASS PLANE coming in lol. If your under say your prayers and laugh. If not continue what you where doing. Easy.
But assassin is so OP. I mean people rely on it to do good. I mean for crying out loud theres at least 70% of people in a barbones lobby wearing Blind eye And assassin. This shows that they just rely on it. That it is clearly on every single one of there dang classes. I mean it freaking barbones and they are wearing it. Not to mention usually in a corner.
In the long run there should an applicable balance for assassin. Not just some dumb helicopter. If not that spread the love of the perk or Even better. Put it in the first slot and let the bigs battle it out. Scavanger vs Blind eye vs Assassin. Who will win.... I sadly know though

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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:11 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
FMGs are my new primaries of the game. So much fun. Wtffffffffffffff. Fck No. What. No you nooooooooob. Nooooooooooob, Constantly over the mic. Hilarious. F-uck this I'm leaving you *** ruined the game, Yes he's on our team. One dude even dashed while the game winning cam was up for us. Killed him like 20 times in that game with the beasts. C4 a lot too. Love it with scavenger & steady aim pro plus the specialists package. Don't nerf them just yet, they still own me A moab and this Fun for deranking me for fck all.
Oh and going tryhard with say the acr silenced will obviously make me get a better k/d but this is so much more fun rushing 24/7 and you still Pwn people blindly. it's ridiculous how good they are cqb and they have decent range as well. When you pick people off on range they go absolutely crazy. People started to create them as well, but for some reason didn't use them as their primary, their Loss.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:15 AM (in response to Snipingdbag)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Yes Theyre awesome and fun to use... Mainly because when you first pull them out it looks sexy, I have them in my Classes, I dont run around riot with them though. I just pull them out when they need to be pulled out. Theyre too much though, Too much! lol
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:18 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I'll get a moab with them if I keep on using them, was close to it today too, they are that good cqb and it's just fun killing people mid range with them as well and yeah pulling them out after every death looks leet.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:20 AM (in response to Snipingdbag)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Haha. Ive never even come close to the MOAB Using the FMG9's Most killstreak I got with them was about 6 I think. I cant even use them on a higher sensitivity then 2 Either.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:27 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Also fix the spawns. Jesus Christ its like theyve got worse over night.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:50 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
Here's the problem with Assassin. First of all, UAV spam alone is what forces Assassin. If there was a Perk that ONLY hid you from Portable Radar, and countered the affects of CUAV and EMP and it took up a Perk slot, no one would use it. IW's answer was, "We split up the benefits of Ghost Pro so it's balanced." This answer is flawed (and a FAIL) because Blind Eye is by far the least used Perk in the game. Showing the bizarre psychology that people will die from a Predator or Helicopter without even thinking about it, yet they're terrified to show up on a UAV.
I think Assassin would be ok as is in this game IF a UAV didn't exist in the Assault Package. And especially at a 2 kill with hardline. People seem to think it's Support that's spamming UAVs, but that's not the case. It's the Assault people running Hardline and not making it through their Killstreaks and truly spamming a UAV nearly every 2 kills, which forces the need to run Assassin.
After putting over 80 hours now into this game, I think it would be perfect without a Perk that hid you from UAV. The only counter to a UAV should be the ability to shoot it down and a Counter UAV. At this point in the history of the game (since COD4), the UAV has become a huge part of the game. In COD4, a UAV would go up, and you didn't think about it. You couldn't even shoot it down. There was one counter and it was a perk called UAV Jammer, yet 99% of players ran either Stopping Power or Juggernaut. Why? Why weren't people afraid of showing up on radar back then? It was a part of the game, it kept it fast paced, and we all loved it. IW seemed to want to keep the "spirit" of COD4's "gun on gun" gameplay in MW3, but they continue to cater to this psychology of fear from being on a mini map.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:56 AM (in response to mmartin)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
This guy knows what hes speaking about.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 7:56 AM (in response to mmartin)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
All I'm reading is you wanting everybody to glow up like a Christmas tree 24/7 on your mini map..
Blopses Express can comeback without assassin and death streaks, it's fun but lacks tactical gameplay & stealth overall imo.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 8:02 AM (in response to Snipingdbag)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
How do you play Stealth in this game? People Spawn right beside you and The maps are way too Small and Cluttered for Stealth. In black ops, Playing Stealth was fine. Maps were great for Stealth play style. You can play somewhat "Stealth" And Carefully, But it doesnt work, And you dont Need Assassin to play Stealth.
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 8:06 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
I usually try to flank people. without assassin on, they know I'm coming 24/7 basically and I can't play "dead" as well as with Assassin pro on.
Yes these maps favor cqb battles but have many routes and most are at least mid size, so flanking isn't hard to do imo.
Spawning system is fkced up indeed
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Currently Being ModeratedNov 30, 2011 8:08 AM (in response to Bax_UK)Re: Stealth Bomber, Akimbo FMG9 = O.P, Assassin Users = No Mini Map & Please, May us PS3 Users have A Hitmarker sound back?
quick draw is where is it's at!

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