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2728 Views 14 Replies Latest reply: Nov 10, 2011 11:08 AM by ghorman RSS
ghorman Expert
ghorman
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Nov 10, 2011 8:31 AM

I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

All connections are NOT equal nor should they be treated as equals. 

 

Please get rid of the lag compensation, I really believe a majority of the players don't care if the host has an advantage or not.

  • KuroNico Expert
    KuroNico
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    Nov 10, 2011 8:33 AM (in response to ghorman)
    Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

    The thread title made me rofl

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    ntella1
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    Nov 10, 2011 8:35 AM (in response to ghorman)
    Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

    The title on this made me laugh to

  • sweatyclam Master
    sweatyclam
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    Nov 10, 2011 8:39 AM (in response to ghorman)
    Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

    With no lag comp the players with the fastest connections TO THE HOST will have an huge advantage.

     

    Just because you have a fast connection does not mean it will be fast to the host, this is especially true if the host has a poor upload speed.

    • ghorman Expert
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      Nov 10, 2011 8:55 AM (in response to sweatyclam)
      Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

      I would rather have one person with an advantage and everyone else based soloing on their connection to the host than the process we have now.  Lag should never be introduced into an enivronment because the environment never stays the same.

       

      changes to the environment could include:

      1. additional network usage at your house (netflix, web browsing from someone else)

      2. shared traffic due to your ISP

      3. general internet traffic

       

      The point is you can't put a constant variable or formula on an environment that is NEVER constant.

      • sweatyclam Master
        sweatyclam
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        Nov 10, 2011 8:57 AM (in response to ghorman)
        Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

        It wouldn't just be one player, all FPS's have lag comp and have had for years and it is more necessary now than it has ever been.

         

        I understand the game may not be working well for you, but removing the lag comp is not the answer.

        • ghorman Expert
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          Nov 10, 2011 9:01 AM (in response to sweatyclam)
          Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

          I have to disagree with you.  Why is it needed more now than ever but yet our connections are faster than they have ever been and we have increase error corrections built into the protocols?

           

          Remove it and let players stand on their own connections.

          • maccabi Master
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            Nov 10, 2011 9:10 AM (in response to ghorman)
            Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

            ghorman wrote:

             

            I have to disagree with you.  Why is it needed more now than ever but yet our connections are faster than they have ever been and we have increase error corrections built into the protocols?

             

            Remove it and let players stand on their own connections.

            your connections arent faster, popular misconception data still travels at the same speed

             

            there is no difference in speed from buying a 1mb down .5 up package or a 100mb down 50 up from the same isp using the same connection ie either adsl or cable.

             

            the only difference is you can download MORE in one go at the same speed on the bigger bandwidth package.

  • SmokeyCheese1 Apprentice
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    Nov 10, 2011 9:10 AM (in response to ghorman)
    Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

    Match make by Ping Rate.............

  • stormshadow843 Newbie
    stormshadow843
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    Nov 10, 2011 10:25 AM (in response to ghorman)
    Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

    agreed!!

  • starbuckfrack Master
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    Nov 10, 2011 10:57 AM (in response to ghorman)
    Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

    Without lag compensation you would hit nobody AT ALL.

     

    There is no possible way for you to fire a gun and the enemy fire a gunat the same time and both of you wait to see who got hit.

     

    Your side would go like this. You fire. You wait for the signal to go the enemy. The enemy 360 tells you if you hit him. So you wait for his signal to come back. Then your Xbox tells you whether you hit him or missed.

    Now at the same time the same thing is happening to him as well when he fires.

    So EACH player has to wait at least one second after you pull the trigger. And this is for 12 players in the match.

    So at that rate you can only fire and wait 5 seconds for the next frame to be drawn.

     

    Its funny how Black Ops rarely gave me a problem and MW3 barely gives me a problem. so you have one of two choices.

     

    1) Find ways to get a better PING.

    2) Stop blaming the game on your poor playing.

     

    Besides the game has only been out for two days, give it time.

     

    Whats funny is all the "lag" complainers who couldnt wait for IW to take over are NOW stating they cant wait for the next COD game to come out

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      redwing497
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      Nov 10, 2011 11:03 AM (in response to starbuckfrack)
      Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

      What an incoherent and garbled response.  Everyone ignore this guy since he has no clue about what the issue really is.  "Find ways to get a better PING".......dude, the whole point is that our pings are TOO good.  If you didn't read anything in this thread or the other listed on this board then don't even bother responding because you have no clue what you're talking about.

    • ghorman Expert
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      Nov 10, 2011 11:08 AM (in response to starbuckfrack)
      Re: I don't want your socialist network code!!!!

      Its not bad playing or a ping; most of the time I'm over 2 to 1 in K/D and my ping is 15ms.  But no one really knows what our ping to the host is because they don't show us

       

      So, because it doesn't happen to you means it doesn't happen to anyone else?  You sir are an idiot.

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