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davidjulian102030 Calculating status... 216 posts since
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Oct 11, 2011 12:59 PM

A controversial thought

What if they added certain perks to natch der untoten and removed the 4 perk limit. My idea is to add in speed cola, double tapp, PhD flopper, and maybe quick revive. I wouldn't add in stamin up or deadshot because they would be pretty useless and just take up space.

Now I know some people may say, no keep it barebones. Its supposed to be a challenge. Well it still is a challenge because without jugg you will die in two hits. And then if you have mule kick, speed cola, double tapp, PhD, and quick revive you will lose 12 500 points worth of perks so either you can not buy any perks at all or buy all the perks and get a slight advantage at the risk of losing it all. It would certainly make the map more fun and diverse as you can have one person with speed cola and PhD using a law etc...

Adding in mule kick, treyarch must have expected we would want all the other perks in the maps too. I'm sure people have been wanting PhD flopper in kino since ascension came out.

This is just an idea so let me know your thoughts
  • Apprentice 1,265 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 1:01 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    No.
    http://tinyurl.com/65qgwqo

  • Apprentice 1,265 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 1:11 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    This is why you don't give kids candy. They want more and won't STFU until they get more.
  • Biosignal Novice 255 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 1:26 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    Sorry but I have to agree with Rezzurected. Adding more perks to the older maps isn't a good idea. I mean sure, it will make things a bit more interesting but as said on these forums before, the maps were designed without the newer perks in mind (Flopper, Stamin-up and Deadshot) and adding these perks to a map like Kino which is already dead easy would be overkill.

    Change is good sometimes but some things just need to stay classic.
  • Apprentice 554 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 1:48 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    theres already speed cola on kino.  its in the mp40 room
  • yellowman7884 Calculating status... 175 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 1:51 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    I also agree with Rezzurected. Why does everyone always have a great idea to make the game better. It's usually a pile of crap. Proven by this thread. I'm 40 and i liked his link.
  • Expert 1,586 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:04 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    I highly disagree with you; I think they shouldn't be changed. HOWEVER, you seem to be mature, and you made your case very logically, and I respect that.
  • yellowman7884 Novice 175 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:07 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    mature? and Your name is... MurderMachineX. Not best placed to make a judgement on maturity with a 3 year old's online tag.
  • black0ps-robin Novice 107 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:11 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought

    Biosignal wrote:

     

    Sorry but I have to agree with Rezzurected. Adding more perks to the older maps isn't a good idea. I mean sure, it will make things a bit more interesting but as said on these forums before, the maps were designed without the newer perks in mind (Flopper, Stamin-up and Deadshot) and adding these perks to a map like Kino which is already dead easy would be overkill.

    Change is good sometimes but some things just need to stay classic.



    some things need to stay classic...your right... the real die-hards can play WaW if they want it old-skool
    but why dont give it a change in black ops? maybe its for the better.. nobody knows if you dont try it.

    and many people also suggested that treyarch should give us some custimization options
    so people who want to play it the classic way can play it like that, and people who like to spice things up can also do it..     

    win - win  situation if you ask me..
  • Expert 1,586 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:12 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
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    yellowman7884 wrote:

     

    mature? and Your name is... MurderMachineX. Not best placed to make a judgement on maturity with a 3 year old's online tag.



    I'm quite proud of my name, actually. Completely capitalized, no numbers. Sure I had to add the X, but it gives a completeness to it. I use it on more than just this forum. The drawback, however, is that some people find it a bit violent. But, you know, what are you gonna do? Anywho, it's violence isn't a problem on a Zombie forum.

    But thanks for inquiring upon this decision
  • FireeriF Novice 158 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:13 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    Yes.  They should just put a playlist for zombies to get rid of this problem.  
  • black0ps-robin Novice 107 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:13 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought

    yellowman7884 wrote:

     

    mature? and Your name is... MurderMachineX. Not best placed to make a judgement on maturity with a 3 year old's online tag.



    said the man that calls himself:  yellowman7884
  • yellowman7884 Novice 175 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:16 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    Maybe Treyarch will employ all the hot idea spouting jokers here for their next game.

    But I doubt it.

    And I'm glad.
  • FireeriF Novice 158 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:24 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
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    yellowman7884 wrote:

     

    Maybe Treyarch will employ all the hot idea spouting jokers here for their next game.

    But I doubt it.

    And I'm glad.



    In what and whom do you mean because your on here amigo
    but I understand the measure of what you are saying and why wouldn't they add a idea off the forums if it best helps the game. Putting a playlist for zombies will expand and not just settle the agruements about certain perks being on what map but even give us a better choice for gameplay on a great game.
  • Psychobilly- Newbie 95 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 2:51 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought

    Rezzurected davidlsofferman wrote:

     

    This is why you don't give kids candy. They want more and won't STFU until they get more.




    I absolutely agree 110%!!!!
  • crackdown666 Expert 1,840 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:00 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    Adding more perks 
    Upping the limit to 5 perks in next game seems logical tho. Especially If they add more perks.
    4 of 8 can be tricky . 4 of 9-12 will be horrible.

    But really as long as there's jugg it's all good.
  • nayrc Calculating status... 198 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:07 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought

    Biosignal wrote:

     

    Sorry but I have to agree with Rezzurected. Adding more perks to the older maps isn't a good idea. I mean sure, it will make things a bit more interesting but as said on these forums before, the maps were designed without the newer perks in mind (Flopper, Stamin-up and Deadshot) and adding these perks to a map like Kino which is already dead easy would be overkill.

    Change is good sometimes but some things just need to stay classic.

    T
    This

    First of all I'm not here to troll but I have to comment on the fact that you said not wanting the perks on the old maps means your not a true zombie player, what perks you like doesn't make you a "true zombie player"

    Sorry but i had to say that, Now on to my point

    Adding the perks to the old maps IMO would be a bad idea.
    The reason is that as biosignal said, these maps weren't designed for the new perks, it would make them easier and easier isn't better, you want a challenge, something to test you, but that doesn't mean it can't also be a fun map.

    Adding mule kick changed up stragetys, but they didn't change the gameplay, you are still using the same guns.

    Adding PhD for example it makes you immune to explosive damage and explode when you DTP witch changes gameplay.

    And to look at it from 3arcs perspective
    They  added mule kick to keep people playing zombies when mw3 comes out and to get people to go back to the old maps,

    With adding things to old maps they can never please everyone and they have two choices
    1.add perks/PAP ect. And annoy/please some people
    2.don't add anything and annoy/please people

    And the easiest thing to do is nothing, and still be pleasing people.
  • strablind Apprentice 579 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:12 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    They should have kept the classics maps the same way it was on WaW, not nerfing the DG-2,Ray gun and monkeys and not having these new guns, and also i think Kino would be more fun with the WaW guns.
  • strablind Apprentice 579 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:20 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    I play WaW much more than Black Ops because of this, i only play the maps from Rezurrection when i play Black Ops, the rest of the maps is garbage.
  • nayrc Novice 198 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:43 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought

    davidjulian102030 wrote:

     

    I doubt they would add more perks. The 8 we have now add everything you need to survive. The next step and its inevitable is to add pro perks this would make a way to have 16 perks. You know what I mean

    When I said your not a true zombies fan I mean in the sense that if you wouldn't like to customize then I don't understand :S. I understand that adding mule kick only gave you an extra gunslot and something like PhD would drastically change the gamestyle. But if you don't want to use the perks or pap then you wouldn't have to. Its not like if they added all the perks and pap to nacth they are forcing you to use them. Like I said best way to please everyone is add options for private games



    The thing about this is the leader boards, the people who don't use the perks wouldnt get as Hugh ect.

    But I see what you mean in the private match thing, meaby if maps with all the new perks ect. Wouldn't record on the leaderboards but personaly I can guarantee they won't add that to BO and doubt they will add it in the new COD with zombies because it would discourage some people to buy the MP to get new maps if they can just change the old ones
    But I would love to see 3arc prove me wrong
  • FireeriF Novice 158 posts since
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    Oct 11, 2011 3:54 PM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    ok we have WaW original maps and black ops maps what are we complaining about?
    not having the perks you want on a map? I agree if you want a certain perk on a map you should be able to get it. thats what a playlist is for.
    regardless if it makes it easy or not it's still fun to play.
    I'm not saying I don't like the game how it is. Do you think we should just be happy with what we got. in a sense yes I agree but then on the other hand why should we stop placing ideas we have to improve the game to our liking. Most might be bad but say why it would be bad. which you did and you think it would make the game easy and easy in your opinion is bad. but some like it to be easy and some don't. I like both therefore a playlist should be set into zombies. sometimes I wish I could just start at round 20 and go from there with pap weapons and enough points to get perks that I want. but then sometime I like that I have to start from the beginning. That's my opinion

    Anyway ultimately treyarch are the ones that have the say of what goes in the game. We can only give suggestions of are ideas. And I think we have the right to. "lets have are cake and eat it too" so what you are saying what we have will suffice for you than a playlist for the different gameplay modes will not have the slightest effect on how it is now. and better you will have other options to choose from.
  • Joshwoocool Calculating status... 92 posts since
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    Oct 12, 2011 6:36 AM (in response to davidjulian102030)
    Re: A controversial thought
    I think It is dumb to say adding new perks would ruin the clasics,My proof is simple say that new perks ruin the clasics is to to say Blops weapons ruin the box,Thunder gun ruins nacht,and winter's howl ruins Verrückt,simple as that

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