.95-1.05


(Suicides, and dashboards. If two players dashboard in a game, or a team for example, the deaths get thrown off.)

1. For every kill there's a death, and vice-versa. 

ArkansasBoy wrote:

 

What would you consider an "average" KD? I've heard many opinions on this, and i can never find an agreeable answer. I used to think about 1.00 was it, but if you look at every player's combat record in your lobby, usually you will only find 2-4 people with KD's above 1 (well, that's just from my observations).

But anyways, now I'd say about .80, what do you think?

The real average is 1. Just because someone dashboards doesn't mean they didn't get any deaths, it just means it doesn't show up.

what i would really like to see is a distribution curve for K/D's

tarallo1 wrote:

 

WesTheDuck wrote:

 

ArkansasBoy wrote:

 

What would you consider an "average" KD? I've heard many opinions on this, and i can never find an agreeable answer. I used to think about 1.00 was it, but if you look at every player's combat record in your lobby, usually you will only find 2-4 people with KD's above 1 (well, that's just from my observations).

But anyways, now I'd say about .80, what do you think?

The real average is 1. Just because someone dashboards doesn't mean they didn't get any deaths, it just means it doesn't show up.

But you do have to take suicides in for account. So I would estimate between .90-.95.

I don't like to count those, nor do I think they should count to someone's K/D, but hey, that's just me. I'm sure we've all accidentally "fell" (more like slipped) off the side on Summit.

My question... who cares? Don't bother keeping track of K/D. Boosters, connection issues, etc all make most stats meaningless. And please don't think I am saying this due to my "low" K/D. It's well above average.

tarallo1 wrote:

 

WesTheDuck wrote:

 

ArkansasBoy wrote:

 

What would you consider an "average" KD? I've heard many opinions on this, and i can never find an agreeable answer. I used to think about 1.00 was it, but if you look at every player's combat record in your lobby, usually you will only find 2-4 people with KD's above 1 (well, that's just from my observations).

But anyways, now I'd say about .80, what do you think?

The real average is 1. Just because someone dashboards doesn't mean they didn't get any deaths, it just means it doesn't show up.

But you do have to take suicides in for account. So I would estimate between .90-.95.

Not only that, but the word average in this case means something different than that of what it usually means.  Most people would think 1.00 would be the average, of course with fluctuations with suicides and dash boarding, it would change some...  But then you have to think of it from a math p.o.v.  Lets say there were only 2 people ever playing Black Ops.  One guy killed the other one 4 times and then the guy who died four times finally got a kill.  Their K/Ds are 4.0 and 0.25 respectively.  But their AVERAGE K/D is 2.25, because K/D cannot go below 1.0, therefore making any K/D average as many people understand invalid.

There was a LONG thread on this topic some months back.  I'll try to summarize what I remember.....

- As someone mentioned above, you can't really take a mathematical mean (what most people think of as an "average") when the variable in question is a ratio (as KDR is). Instead you want to look for the median player (the person such that half of all players have a higher KDR than him/her and the other half of players have a lower one).

- Someone on Den Kirson's page actually tried to track this by checking the lobby leaderboards over the course of several days of playing.  IIRC, they found the median KDR to be in the .80 - .90 range. So while that was only a sample, yeah, it looks like the average person goes negative (modestly) on average.  (Which actually makes sense, I think, if you sit down and do the math on the statistical properties of ratios.)

If I'm wrong, or if someone else has the actual data, please chime in.

unimsw wrote:

 

My question... who cares? Don't bother keeping track of K/D. Boosters, connection issues, etc all make most stats meaningless. And please don't think I am saying this due to my "low" K/D. It's well above average.

So, what is the average K/D? That was the question. Not, "do we keep track?"

DarkShadow56 wrote:

 

1. For every kill there's a death, and vice-versa. 

this, 1.0+ is the average, 1 kill for 1 death. if you got less than L2P.

An Average KD curve would be great!
But how would you take into account people(Noobs/Wankstains) that dashboard?
A system where every kill/death you get is automatically put onto your combat record would be great!
From what i have seen the general skill level on Black Ops is low! Over half the people that play have a less then 1 Kd which is poor. I only play search and my Kd is 2.33. It makes me laugh when i got into a game and see a guy with a 4 kd and think shhiiiiiiiit, he dies in the first round and ".... has disconnected due to transmission erroe" and i laugh and send him/her abusive messages. I always report dashboarders for cheating. I expect they have lost days and days of play on the record from dashing so much. Sad People.

scottyarms81 wrote:

 

stupid question but I was never 100% sure

dashboarding is if they turn off their machine while playing...if you leave the match by hitting quit game is that still considered dashboarding?

If you press quit its not dashboarding, as it saves all your stats and if you are host, host migration kicks in, rather than game ending for everyone in case of dashing...

All I know is mine is .93 Im an average player in tdm or objectives, but I rule barebones, I still however, dont think i'll ever see a 1.0 or better. Unless im playing bad company. in which Im a 1.03 but thats another story. 

It's hard to say. I haven't hit my plateau yet.

I was at about a .64. When I upgraded my internet my KD started rising. Weather or not from placebo, I don't know. But I'm sitting at .87 right now and i've got a lot of deaths under my belt to erase. I'd say lately my average would be above 1.

PS. I love how much everybody is really THINKING about this. lol.

A distribution curve would be awesome.   Maybe a suggestion for the suggestion box of COD:Elite????  

I'd think the bell-curve would be pretty scewed.   1 super beast (not me hehe) could go like 4.00 a bunch of round but could really hurt the super fish and push multiple players down to .5

I'm guestimating .7-.85

Caledjose wrote:

 

im 15th prestige with 23days played.. k/d 1.05 game 1.01
i usually just played objective modes.. die alot...
black ops was the first call of duty fps ever played...

so why is there people talking trash about my combat record every time they see my combat record...

65,439 kills
60,238 deaths

wrong thread

mine is 1.71 with 120000 kills.  I don't dashboard or any of that dumb ****.  I do see alot of em with a range of .89 to 1.1