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  • have you seen karen? Apprentice 1,256 posts since
    Nov 10, 2010
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    1,390. Jan 26, 2011 2:40 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    EliteSniperKING wrote:

     

    Trace the routes, or roots.. if you like carrots.

    The M40A3 ACOG of COD4 is what created this fiasco in the first place.



    That wasn't too OP.. Stupid, yes, but it didn't dominate everything. It was just enough to make Johnny 12yrold an OK sniper.

    I'm just asking for the removal of the patch. That isn't going to make the ACOG a one hit kill.
  • TidalWaffles Newbie 73 posts since
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    1,391. Feb 25, 2011 12:38 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    I am with you.

    Just do what you think you need to do with snipers. By now, it's going well.
  • Da BladeMasterz Apprentice 717 posts since
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    1,392. Feb 25, 2011 1:00 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Still, the sniper rifles are awfully underpowered even after the patches.

    I don't think anything bad would happen if they removed or reduced the sway too.
  • asasa Master 5,389 posts since
    Oct 20, 2011
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    1,393. Feb 25, 2011 1:12 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    Da BladeMasterz wrote:

     

    Still, the sniper rifles are awfully underpowered even after the patches.

    I don't think anything bad would happen if they removed or reduced the sway too.



    All the patches did was reduce the "random bullet" from 2 seconds to... [unknown].

    Apparently a slight reduction in the initial sway as well.
  • HoverSheep Novice 106 posts since
    Nov 2, 2010
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    1,394. Apr 17, 2011 11:03 AM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Hey Vahn, I think you guys need to change sniping, it is just way too horrible at this point, why even have sniper rifles? Almost every single shot with the L96A1 is a hit marker. Every time you run into someone with Second Chance, it's going to take 2-3 to kill him. That's ridiculous. Also, if you didn't want people using sniper rifles up close in the game, why in the world would you guys add an Acog sight? The Acog sight is EVEN WORSE than using a scope.

    In a game dominated by AR's and SMG's - In my opinion, you guys need to remove the sway and timer from sniper rifles immediately. Everything will still be balanced, trust me. It won't ruin the game for people, but there will definitely be more people sniping. Look at everything in MW2 - The Spas is horribly overpowered, but people don't usually use it. For the Qs'ers it is not like there is Slight Of Hand Pro from MW2 on there. It will be balanced. Trust me.

    I'm being honest and respectful towards you, and I also would like some feedback from you, Vahn, and Treyarch. 
  • Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    1,395. Apr 17, 2011 11:39 AM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    HoverSheep wrote:

     

    Hey Vahn, I think you guys need to change sniping, it is just way too horrible at this point, why even have sniper rifles? Almost every single shot with the L96A1 is a hit marker. Every time you run into someone with Second Chance, it's going to take 2-3 to kill him. That's ridiculous. Also, if you didn't want people using sniper rifles up close in the game, why in the world would you guys add an Acog sight? The Acog sight is EVEN WORSE than using a scope.

    In a game dominated by AR's and SMG's - In my opinion, you guys need to remove the sway and timer from sniper rifles immediately. Everything will still be balanced, trust me. It won't ruin the game for people, but there will definitely be more people sniping. Look at everything in MW2 - The Spas is horribly overpowered, but people don't usually use it. For the Qs'ers it is not like there is Slight Of Hand Pro from MW2 on there. It will be balanced. Trust me.

    I'm being honest and respectful towards you, and I also would like some feedback from you, Vahn, and Treyarch. 


    If snipers traditionally shoot from afar, what's the problem with an AR or SMG dominated game? Or are people just crying because they can't dominate in a CQB situation with an L96?
  • asasa Master 5,389 posts since
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    1,396. Apr 17, 2011 2:51 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Because that's not a balanced game... and it makes for boring gameplay? Duh?
  • Calculating status... 7 posts since
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    1,397. Apr 17, 2011 3:07 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Personally i like the game not the community that plays it though. The game does have its down falls (Like Second Chance) which i just get over because every game does have its issues. I have tried the snipers and they all work just fine for me. (Especially if you know how to use them correctly)

    I do have 1 question for Vahn though, earlier today somebody posted a video of  (3ARC) JD 2020 getting quick scoped is this really you or did somebody just make a gamer tag to resemble you? If it is you, its kinda Ironic that YOU of all people where quick scoped. (JUST SAYING) lol

    Thanks Vahn for your support on this game by the way!
  • Bottleshark Newbie 24 posts since
    Nov 28, 2010
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    1,398. Apr 17, 2011 3:22 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Are you going to increase damage on the snipers? i dont understand. I like how the sniper works in Black Ops, they are just fine.
  • Blazen Fenix Calculating status... 62 posts since
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    1,399. Apr 17, 2011 4:15 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    I think that Sniper Rifles are underpowered, but they're not horrible. The PSG is my second best KDR weapon at 2.65, behind the ballistic knife. I have a 2.19 k/d and around 500 kills with the PSG, and I pull it out to do some hardscoping in Array. I think that it works pretty well at long range.

    However, if you see a competent player at medium or close range, you're dead unless you're very lucky or a beast quickscoper known as zzirGrizz.

    Another thing is Second Chance against Snipers. At close range, if you manage to pull off a quickscope on a Second Chance user, you are definitely dead. The half second to drop is equal to the time it takes to pull out a pistol and half the time to shoot a L9 again, and they can still shoot the primary while dropping. It is also frustrating when you "use it like you're supposed to" and hardscope in Array and you shoot someone across the map, they fall into Second Chance, crawl out of sight, and get revived before you can get another accurate shot off. Aiming for headshots is ridiculous because the head is a very small target and in the time you would take to aim, you are vulnerable.

    I have had quickscoping private matches with friends, and it's not too terrible. It's totally possible to quickscope, but someone with an AR and SoH Pro will ADS in half the time you take to ADS and fire while you're still waiting the .25 seconds to become accurate.

    So Snipers are underpowered, but not so bad that they're unusable. They're difficult to use in CQB and slightly less so at medium range, but Second Chance is death to snipers.

    I'd like snipers to be more accurate when scoping in, and less of a sway.

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