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  • gamezilla36 Apprentice 1,255 posts since
    May 19, 2010
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    910. Nov 25, 2010 6:14 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    z Zakattack z wrote:

     

    I feel as though Treyarch did everything correctly, i believe that by putting the scope sway in, it really decreased the quickscoping community. I myself was an avid quickscoper in MW2, and it was to the point i would join a lobby, and everyone was quickscoping. It got extremely boring, and i noticed that we weren't playing the game correctly. Honestly, it is a game of teamwork, and tactics, and quickscoping is just cheap and unfair. I think everyone should stop being "MLG" pro and totally "1337 haxorz" at quickscoping, get a squad together, pick up an Assault Rifle, SMG, LMG, (And use snipers correctly!) and play the game how it should be.

    -zZakattackz
    AKA nR Slapped



    EDIT: I would have to say at least 99.99% of Quickscopers are under the legal age to even buy the game. I find it unfair to cater to that demographic, even though it is the largest demographic.


    Wow, i just totally dissed my own age group, I'm 16 



    Ignorant comment much?
  • teksquilla Novice 389 posts since
    Oct 26, 2010
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    911. Nov 25, 2010 6:16 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    z Zakattack z wrote:

     

    I feel as though Treyarch did everything correctly, i believe that by putting the scope sway in, it really decreased the quickscoping community. I myself was an avid quickscoper in MW2, and it was to the point i would join a lobby, and everyone was quickscoping. It got extremely boring, and i noticed that we weren't playing the game correctly. Honestly, it is a game of teamwork, and tactics, and quickscoping is just cheap and unfair. I think everyone should stop being "MLG" pro and totally "1337 haxorz" at quickscoping, get a squad together, pick up an Assault Rifle, SMG, LMG, (And use snipers correctly!) and play the game how it should be.

    -zZakattackz
    AKA nR Slapped



    Alot of us were doing it before it got actually popular in MW2. The community used to be small... really small.

    Disregard COMPLETELY those "zzzirgrizzzacog" people who noscoped and quickscoped with the acog. That was completely LOL.

    Quickscoping is fun... it might irritiate other players but heck man... the knife irritates EVERYONE and there was nothing done to reduce the effectiveness on that.

    All I suggest is make the 'sniper-patch' only come into effect shortly after you're moving. If you're standing still, or even prone for heaven's sake... why is my scope going to jump side to side like there is something wrong with my guy?

    Little overboard, this patch is.

    my 2centz

    EDIT;  im 20 years old. Quickscoping isn't about age. It's about how people want to play the game. Stop being ignorant.

    EDIT 2:

    This scope not only eliminated quick-scoping to some degree... it kind of messed up actually sniping. Snipers scope in... hit their target and zoom out ALMOST immediately after they shoot.(got to see the radar after you fire a shot )  You can see where I am going with this...

    If I get a hitmarker I have to rescope in SUPER FAST to try to get the second shot to finish him off. This is espeically annoying when people are using second chance. I've been doing that for as long as I can remember but the hitmarkers in this game really suck when you're sniping especially with this patch.
  • DeputyDom Newbie 81 posts since
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    912. Nov 25, 2010 6:22 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    Vahn wrote:

     

    Many of your good suggestions can not be done without re-writing large part of the weapons system. What I am willing to do is tune the game with the tunables we have at our disposal. I am not willing to go to engineering with a request to flip up the basics of the weapons system in order to address the sniper complaints. Any such change would be way to risky for a post-shipped title and take new code to do it.



    Can you explain what exactly you can tune within the game so are suggestions can be more helpful towards you? If you can, I appreciate it.
  • Lost Spartan119 Apprentice 802 posts since
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    913. Nov 25, 2010 6:26 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Okay I lied I will say one more thing
    The thing is though that it seems like a lot of people think that quickscoping just started in MW2. It didn't
    People quickscoped before MW2 because they found it fun and it was actually not easy to do. Then MW2 came along and offered its "easy quickscoping mode" AKA sleight of hand pro and everyone started quickscoping because it was so easy.
    I for one, liked to quickscope with Marathon on in MW2 because it didn't feel like I had a perk acting like a crutch to make it easier.
    Now what your have to realize is that Sleight of Hand Pro in Black Ops doesn't offer this "easy quickscoping mode" so it would be like quickscoping was in COD 4 if the patch was removed.
    Now a lot of those 12 year olds would be like "OH NOEZ I DON'T HAVE MY SLEIGHT OF HAND PRO" and they would probably not even be good enough at real quickscoping to kill you.
    Just pointing that out there
  • Big_Kid_Fun Apprentice 1,066 posts since
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    914. Nov 25, 2010 6:29 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Hmmm a tweaking to the silenced sniper rifle damage would be reasonable. I love you Vahn :o
  • Joncoll56 Calculating status... 1 posts since
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    915. Nov 25, 2010 6:31 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Hi There. 

    When I first heard about the sniping in black ops being taken away/harder I thought to myself why then I watched some videos on youtube that explained this to me. They explained how JD_2020 Had called quick scoping CHEAP. Now I was quite mad as I found out quite allot of other things that nobody like were still in the game. Example, The Grenade Launcher, Going into every game just to find people running around with them and if it couldn't get any worse it did by also using RPG's. Now that's just one out of a 100 things that are more cheap and annoying.

    Another thing before I go. Most people that buy this game Quick Scope I mean think about it people like OpTicNation are out there on youtube trying to keep everyone entertained with the latest call of duty game and there main objective is Quick Scoping. People like them buy Recorders and much more just because of one thing that makes them so popular around the world. If Quick Scoping came back I bet you 100% all my mates and everyone else that has to go on MW2 or COD4 to Quick Scope will be right back on to Black Ops which is a good thing because the Sniper Community is BIG and always pray for the next COD Game to come out Just To Quick Scope.

    Thanks For Reading 

    MrViB3 . PLayer/Editor
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  • kbuddy13 Calculating status... 6 posts since
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    916. Nov 25, 2010 6:32 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Cod4 is widely regarded as the best Cod of the series. No one looks back at it and says "Damn, I wish the sniping had been different." WaW had many of its own problems. OPd MP40, oversized maps. I never saw people complaining about sniping. MW2's sniping was only bad because of the pro perk of sleight of hand. I too think it should go back to Cod4 style. Sniping as it is is terrible.
  • gamezilla36 Apprentice 1,255 posts since
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    917. Nov 25, 2010 6:44 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first

    kbuddy13 wrote:

     

    Cod4 is widely regarded as the best Cod of the series. No one looks back at it and says "Damn, I wish the sniping had been different." WaW had many of its own problems. OPd MP40, oversized maps. I never saw people complaining about sniping. MW2's sniping was only bad because of the pro perk of sleight of hand. I too think it should go back to Cod4 style. Sniping as it is is terrible.



    THIS THIS THIS THIS


    lol
  • Lost Spartan119 Apprentice 802 posts since
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    918. Nov 25, 2010 6:54 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    Wait.....
    Is it just me or is there seriously a massive majority that want COD 4/WAW style sniping?
    And I haven't seen very many who want it to remain the way it is....
    I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but.....so where is the group that wanted it changed originally. And I get the feeling that everyone wanted it changed from MW2 style sniping but then everyone realized that all we really needed to do was nothing since Sleight of Hand Pro doesn't make your scope come up super fast in BO....I really think that that change was the only one we ever needed. All we really needed to do was make Sleight of Hand Pro not make sniper scopes come up faster....
    I don't know I could be wrong......
  • bananaman457 Calculating status... 2 posts since
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    919. Nov 25, 2010 6:55 PM (in response to vahn)
    Re: Sniper Updates? - Probably, but read this first
    thank you treyarch for makeing it better thank you
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