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Oct 7, 2010 3:35 PM

More Non-Respawn Games

as many of us know zipper/slant sux dropped the ball on delivering a good tactical shooter with socom in the past few years. as a long time socom vet, i really only enjoy playing S&D. while TDM, FFA, and other spawn games are fun, nothing compares to having one life to live. a lot of people would love to see a TDM and Sabotage variation with a round based scoring system like S&D. and to be able to play them 3rd person in a ranked room would be a huge draw to the tactical gamers/socom ghosts out there desperately looking for something to sink thier teeth into. the ability to choose between core, hard core and 3rd person tactical when searching for a game would be a great addition as well. thanks for reading, reply if you agree.


p.s. please give us seperate team channels for in game chat on S&D. its tough to plan the next round when the other team can hear you.
  • Defiance42 Novice
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    Oct 7, 2010 5:34 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    Agreed.. Makes the game more competitive when you only have one life.
  • matthew888 Apprentice
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    Oct 7, 2010 6:11 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    Resinlung wrote:

     

    as many of us know zipper/slant sux dropped the ball on delivering a good tactical shooter with socom in the past few years. as a long time socom vet, i really only enjoy playing S&D. while TDM, FFA, and other spawn games are fun, nothing compares to having one life to live. a lot of people would love to see a TDM and Sabotage variation with a round based scoring system like S&D. and to be able to play them 3rd person in a ranked room would be a huge draw to the tactical gamers/socom ghosts out there desperately looking for something to sink thier teeth into. the ability to choose between core, hard core and 3rd person tactical when searching for a game would be a great addition as well. thanks for reading, reply if you agree.


    p.s. please give us seperate team channels for in game chat on S&D. its tough to plan the next round when the other team can hear you.




    Their is litterally no reason for more 1 life game modes. And what do you mean its tough to plan when the other team can hear you...? Incase you didn't know, The other team CANNOT hear you.
  • dmanhickox Newbie
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    Oct 7, 2010 6:43 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games

    matthew888 wrote:

     

    Resinlung wrote:

     

    as many of us know zipper/slant sux dropped the ball on delivering a good tactical shooter with socom in the past few years. as a long time socom vet, i really only enjoy playing S&D. while TDM, FFA, and other spawn games are fun, nothing compares to having one life to live. a lot of people would love to see a TDM and Sabotage variation with a round based scoring system like S&D. and to be able to play them 3rd person in a ranked room would be a huge draw to the tactical gamers/socom ghosts out there desperately looking for something to sink thier teeth into. the ability to choose between core, hard core and 3rd person tactical when searching for a game would be a great addition as well. thanks for reading, reply if you agree.


    p.s. please give us seperate team channels for in game chat on S&D. its tough to plan the next round when the other team can hear you.




    Their is litterally no reason for more 1 life game modes. And what do you mean its tough to plan when the other team can hear you...? Incase you didn't know, The other team CANNOT hear you.



    Actually the dead can hear the dead, but if your still alive you can only hear your teammates.
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    Oct 7, 2010 8:31 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    I think personally S&D should stay the only 1 life game mode. Unless it is put into a separate play-list like Hardcore Mosh Pit. It could be called One Life Pit....ahhh jk.
    But S&D should really get bumped from the first team to 4, to like 8 or 10.
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    Oct 8, 2010 1:22 AM (in response to resinlung)
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    Defiance42 wrote:

     

    Agreed.. Makes the game more competitive when you only have one life.



    Agreed completely. 




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    Oct 8, 2010 4:07 AM (in response to resinlung)
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    i wouldn't play the game if it was based on one life spawn it's just not fair , not fun at all, more campers , rounds ending in draws because of campers never leaving one spot, accidental suicide (happens to everyone throwing grenades and accidently comes back to you lol or falling to death by accident) , Claymore Kills,snipers, or noob tube (Otherwise RPG'd) , or those shotgun wh**es, basically having 1 life it's just to frustrating  for many people especially having to wait until  the rounds over which people dont have patience for.
  • Mercykiller77 Expert
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    Oct 8, 2010 4:10 AM (in response to resinlung)
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    If your only making one gamemode out of it then it's ok. Something new to test out.
  • rwg3 Apprentice
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    Oct 8, 2010 6:33 AM (in response to resinlung)
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    Also promotes camping since people will never leave their spawn site.
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:00 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games

    Kaiser_ wrote:

     

    i wouldn't play the game if it was based on one life spawn it's just not fair , not fun at all, more campers , rounds ending in draws because of campers never leaving one spot, accidental suicide (happens to everyone throwing grenades and accidently comes back to you lol or falling to death by accident) , Claymore Kills,snipers, or noob tube (Otherwise RPG'd) , or those shotgun wh**es, basically having 1 life it's just to frustrating  for many people especially having to wait until  the rounds over which people dont have patience for.



    first off, "reply if you agree", so thanks for insightful input. secondly, a lot of people enjoy the challenge of non-spawn modes. next time your searching for games, check the #'s. tdm always has the most playing, followed by ffa. s&d follows right behind them. with more non-spawn modes id be willing to bet the #'s would surpass tdm. campers, suicide by idiocy, and rpg's/gl's are all also part of spawn modes. and theres a lot different ways to deal with draws. variety would only bring more people into the game. also if you hate rpg's, and gl's i assume the only killstreak you use is the uav/counter uav.

    p.s. and yes, i meant when youre dead you should only be able to hear your team.
  • blackopselite2 Newbie
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:03 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games
    Search and Destroy= Best Game Mode Ever!
  • Brian.+ Master
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:04 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    blackopselite2 wrote:

     

    Search and Destroy= Best Game Mode Ever!



    +1

    I wish they would implement ViP. That gamemode was so sick. 1 life and you must protect the designated player who only gets a pistol. I miss that mode :'(
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:10 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games

    Brian.+ wrote:

     

    blackopselite2 wrote:

     

    Search and Destroy= Best Game Mode Ever!



    +1

    I wish they would implement ViP. That gamemode was so sick. 1 life and you must protect the designated player who only gets a pistol. I miss that mode :'(



    agreed. a mode with a neutral vip in the middle of map that each team has to fight to extract would be epic. having the vip be human controlled would be hard to work out. you'd need an odd amount of players and ppl would cheat the system for sure.
  • matthew888 Apprentice
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:10 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games

    Brian.+ wrote:

     

    blackopselite2 wrote:

     

    Search and Destroy= Best Game Mode Ever!



    +1

    I wish they would implement ViP. That gamemode was so sick. 1 life and you must protect the designated player who only gets a pistol. I miss that mode :'(



    That'd make too much sense.
  • Brian.+ Master
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:11 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games

    Resinlung wrote:

     

    Brian.+ wrote:

     

    blackopselite2 wrote:

     

    Search and Destroy= Best Game Mode Ever!



    +1

    I wish they would implement ViP. That gamemode was so sick. 1 life and you must protect the designated player who only gets a pistol. I miss that mode :'(



    agreed. a mode with a neutral vip in the middle of map that each team has to fight to extract would be epic. having the vip be human controlled would be hard to work out. you'd need an odd amount of players and ppl would cheat the system for sure.



    Well the way it worked in Americas army was there are 2 teams and one team defends the extraction site while the other escorts the VIP to the site. I think you made it a bit complicated
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 12, 2010 6:16 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    Well the way it worked in Americas army was there are 2 teams and one team defends the extraction site while the other escorts the VIP to the site. I think you made it a bit complicated [/quote]

    it was the same in socom. one team starting with them would work well too.
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 14, 2010 10:34 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    or steal them
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    Oct 14, 2010 10:45 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    nothing wrong with variety
  • Cashville Novice
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    Oct 15, 2010 12:45 AM (in response to resinlung)
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    The other team cannot hear you if you mute them 
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 15, 2010 9:16 AM (in response to resinlung)
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    the other team can hear you even while muted
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 16, 2010 8:55 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    just from a sales point it makes sense. theres a huge group of ppl that want to play (3rd person preferably) tactical games. and for those that want to reply "they already have a 3P tactical selection", your wrong. just calling tactical doesnt make it tactical. short of s&d, its all respawn modes. so cmon treyarch, give us the tactical shooter we crave. no one else has anything good in the works. respawn is fun, but its just masterba.... i mean good for warming up.
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 21, 2010 5:27 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    this all may be for nothing though. itll take a lot to get new modes into an already developed game. reply if you agree anyway.
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    Oct 21, 2010 5:48 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    I agree to an extent.

    I like the one-life aspect, although I'm perfectly happy with respawn modes too. I probably play S&D and Domination the most, about even for play-time. But like you said a one-life TDM might be cool, make it rounds and you obviously win the round by getting the most kills and so highest score, whichever team has the highest score after all the rounds wins. That way it's not first to - whatever round, it's just whoever can get the highest score out of ALL the rounds. That way it makes for a longer and sometimes more competitive one-life mode than S&D. That said though, there not ebing an objective would probably seriously promote camping due to the whole one-life thing going on So that might be why there hasn't been any other one-life modes, because only S&D objective can make it not so camp-filled as it were.

    Where I disagree with you though Resinlung is the whole 3rd person aspect. I'm not a fan of 3rd person in a game that is a first-person shooter. It didn't work well in MW2, people just used the 3rd person camera to sit behind a corner and camp, waiting to see unsuspecting victims coming a mile-off. It wasn't very good, and it wasn't developed very thoroughly either, 3rd person actions weren't clean and realistic, the reloads were just your guy fumbling on his chest pack with one hand and tickling his gun and when a gun had a grip, even if it was standard and not an attachment (M4, Vector) the guy puts his hand through it, so it just looks retarded. I thought one of the main points of 3rd person shooters is to be aesthetically pleasing, and MW2 just wasn't very much.

    So I'm all for more one-life modes in the future (too late for Black Ops) just as long as they work properly and don't make everyone want to camp all match. But 3rd person in CoD is a no go for me. Generally just a no go in all shooters tbh.
  • pianoman7117 Apprentice
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    Oct 21, 2010 7:52 PM (in response to resinlung)
    Re: More Non-Respawn Games

    Resinlung wrote:

     

    as many of us know zipper/slant sux dropped the ball on delivering a good tactical shooter with socom in the past few years. as a long time socom vet, i really only enjoy playing S&D. while TDM, FFA, and other spawn games are fun, nothing compares to having one life to live. a lot of people would love to see a TDM and Sabotage variation with a round based scoring system like S&D. and to be able to play them 3rd person in a ranked room would be a huge draw to the tactical gamers/socom ghosts out there desperately looking for something to sink thier teeth into. the ability to choose between core, hard core and 3rd person tactical when searching for a game would be a great addition as well. thanks for reading, reply if you agree.


    p.s. please give us seperate team channels for in game chat on S&D. its tough to plan the next round when the other team can hear you.



    This would be, huge FTB2 fan, only thing about the whole one life thing is camping, yeah that's annoying, but could be counterbalanced by doubling total health in that match mode
  • Defiance42 Novice
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    Oct 21, 2010 7:58 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    I agree with you man.. I love the 1 life game types and wish there were more in CoD.. Would love to see an extraction type game mode or a rescure the hostage game mode.. Love stuff like that and I believe it would add a great number of players to the CoD franchise. 
  • resinlung Newbie
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    Oct 25, 2010 8:03 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    yes 3rd person is not for everyone. and in mw2 it seemed tacked on (albeit a great addition). but if you started on 3rd person, mw's 1st person binocular vision can be frustrating. and people camp regardless of camera view. once youve played third person you know how to take out corner campers, nades. it was easier in socom because after people died you could just walk over their body to pick up nades and ammo. you need scavenger or OMA to get more nades in mw. 3rd person is just a cream dream for us socom ghosts. im content playin 1st person with more round based modes.
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    Oct 25, 2010 8:05 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    Resinlung wrote:

     

    the ability to choose between core, hard core and 3rd person tactical when searching for a game would be a great addition as well.



    Word
  • t.h.flame Novice
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    Oct 25, 2010 9:33 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    Something I would like implemented, If you're dead, no one still alive can hear you. 
    This way you don't have people saying, "I'm dead. The snipers on top of that cliff". 
    Instead, you would hear silence. 
    "Dude, you got my back?"
    ...
    "Dude?"
    ...
    "Oh sh-*snipe* "
  • t.h.flame Novice
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    Oct 25, 2010 9:40 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    I think it would be cool if whenever you wanted to play a game you got to pick exactly what you wanted to play. 

    Choice 1:  Core or Hardcore

    Choice 2:  24 players, 18 players, 12 players, 6 players, or 2 players.

    Choice 3:  Barebones on or off

    Choice 4: TDM, FFA, S&D, Domination, etc.
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    Mar 30, 2011 7:58 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    good stuff resin, need more 1 life to live games!
  • avengedyesterday Master
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    Mar 30, 2011 9:07 PM (in response to resinlung)
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    I dunno about more 1 life games, but more spawn delay games would be great.

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