thunder toro, stop promoting your channel here.....-.-

remove stopping power because guns should be their strengh not better, and if people want jugg, when it is pro(i take it you making perks pro) it removes fall damage since it is a good idea but commando sucks

Vahn -

Thanks for taking the time out of your busy schedule to get our feed-back/opinions on Perks for Call of Duty Black Ops. Really nice to see different and yet same opinions on the Perks. I took the time to copy and paste the Perks list you made to reflect my opinion on Perks. What should stay and what should go will be reflected in a different colour to give you an idea of what I feel can be removed and what I feel can stay.



WaW

Perk Set #1

* Special Grenades X 3 = Can stay because it doesn't cause many issues with people
* Satchel Charge X 2 = Can stay because if vehicles return then we need to destroy them
* M9A1 Bazooka X 2 = Can stay ONLY if remaining as a Perk and not separate weapons
* Bomb Squad = Can stay show people can see hidden Claymores or Betties
* Bouncing Betty X 2 = Can stay ONLY if it coincides with the era/war we are fighting in
* Bandolier = Can stay because having extra ammo on my favourite weapons I enjoy
* Primary Grenades X 2 = Can stay because I have no issues with this
* M2 Flamethrower = Can stay ONLY if remaining as a Perk and not separate weapon


Perk Set #2

* Stopping Power = Can stay because it helps in Core gameplay to a certain extent
* Fireworks = Can be removed because explosives are fine the way they are
* Flak Jacket = Can be removed because I'm removing Fireworks
* Gas Mask = Can stay because I never used it and it doesn't hurt to have gas protection
* Juggernaut = Can stay although the community is debating on this one perk
* Camouflage = Can stay because lets face it we need cover when sniping
* Sleight of Hand = Can stay because this helps in the heat of battle to reload quickly
* Shades = Can stay if there will be equipment that causes bright lights
* Double Tap = Can stay or be removed it wouldn't bother me
* Overkill = Can be removed because having two LMGs/SMGs/Shotguns as a primary is not fair in my opinion


Perk Set #3

* Deep Impact = Can stay so we can get people hiding behind cover
* Extreme Conditioning = Can stay ONLY if it's not an infinite run
* Toss Back = Can stay because I have no beef with this perk
* Second Chance = Can be removed because who in real life gets shot a few times only to bring out their pistol and shoot the person who shot them?
* Martyrdom = Can be removed because a dead person can't pull the pin on a grenade
* Fireproof = Can stay ONLY if Flamethrower is in the game as a Perk
* Dead Silence = Can stay because it helps with stealth and good for sneaking & sniping
* Iron Lungs = Can stay for those snipers in Call of Duty
* Reconnaissance = Can be removed because I didn't find a use for this nor found it beneficial

MW2

Perk Set 1

* Marathon | Marathon Pro = Removed because I can't run forever
* Sleight of Hand | Sleight of Hand Pro = Keep Sleight of Hand and remove Pro
* Scavenger | Scavenger Pro = Remove because it helps with infinite noob-tubes & remove pro because we can have Bandolier instead
* Bling | Bling Pro = Can stay ONLY for the primary weapons not the secondary weapons
* One Man Army | One Man Army Pro = Remove because it can be exploited like it is now where you switch back to your original class and have full ammo again

Perk Slot 2

* Stopping Power | Stopping Power Pro = Keep if these can be combined into one
* Lightweight | Lightweight Pro = Can keep for those heavy LMGs and SMGs
* Hardline | Hardline Pro = I see no harm in keeping Hardline but remove Pro because Deathstreaks are not important and should be taken out altogether
* Cold-Blooded | Cold-Blooded Pro = Since we have Camouflage we don't need this but the name is good to replace Camouflage
* Danger Close | Danger Close Pro = Explosives are damaging enough and why make air support even stronger!?

Perk Slot 3

* Commando | Commando Pro = REMOVE. Period
* Steady Aim | Steady Aim Pro = Can stay for snipers and run-n-gunners
* Scrambler | Scrambler Pro = Remove because not Time Frame relevant
* Ninja | Ninja Pro = Remove, Heartbeat Sensors are gone and we have Dead Silence
* SitRep | SitRep Pro = Good to see explosive traps but enemy steps are loud enough anyway
* Last Stand | Last Stand Pro = Remove both. Refer to Second Chance from WaW


Again this is my opinion of all the Perks form both games. I am in favour of WaW's setup and not Modern Warefare 2's set up. Most of the pro perks were pointless and too unrealistic. I understand this is a video game but Perks should be thought out logically and not added because someone want's to jump off a building and not break their legs.

All in all, just keep simple and easy like WaW is and things should be fine in the eyes of most of the community. Also, less is better

Thanks Vahn for allowing us to help out in anyway we can


Ermac26

Rather than go through the entire perk system and give details about my opinions of each and every perk, I'll save some time by discussing the perks that I don't like.

Allow me to quickly say that, even though it appears that I have joined this forums only recently and have no high post count to back it up, I have played Call of Duty all the way back since the original COD. I've logged countless hours into the multiplayer experience in COD titles.

From WAW:

    * Stopping Power - As I'm sure you are already aware, many people feel that stopping power should be removed, and I'm one of those people. I don't understand why a perk would be included that gives such an advantage to one player over another. It essentially forces most players to equip it on their kits so that they can have a fair chance of winning a skirmish. I never even dared using gas mask, shades, or fireworks during WAW because I understood that using stopping power would ultimately net me more kills. Eliminate Stopping Power entirely and you will see a whole new combinations of perks open up, I guarantee it.

    * Juggernaut - Juggernaut is essentially the same as Stopping power, giving an equally unfair advantage. The only time juggernaut is balanced is in the case that there is a fight and one opponent has juggernaut and the other stopping power. However, if you do keep stopping power in, it is essential that juggernaut be there as well.

    * Shades and Gas Mask - These two perks had the opportunity to be useful, providing that juggernaut and stopping power are removed. These two perks just never came into play that much (I would say I got tabun gassed maybe once every three or four rounds). These two perks may have been more useful had they been combined into one perk, making you immune to all special grenades.

    * Toss Back - The idea that this perk presented was great. It's effectively a counter to martyrdom, but I feel that had it been a passive perk (where any grenade that comes in range your character will automatically throw away) it may have been used more. This perk is defeated by the fact that most players on WAW cooked grenades. I know that I myself rarely threw a grenade without cooking it a good two or three seconds. Let is also be known that, had this perk been ported over to MW2, it would have been virtually useless because of the amount of semtex use.

MW2

    * One Man Army | One Man Army Pro - an excellent perk concept with poor execution. This perk was just too useful. It allowed for a full ammo restore, grenade launcher restore, quicker LMG reload speeds than SoH. why would anyone with an LMG ever want to use SoH when they can use a perk that a)gives them a full ammo reload and b) reloads faster than with SoH? Infinity Ward created a perk that is majorly unbalanced. It's scavenger and SoH combined to some extent. The refilling of explosives lead to the spamming of grenade launchers.

    * Stopping Power | Stopping Power Pro - Refer to World at War stopping power

    * Commando | Commando Pro - I know you're well aware of the disdain for this perk. I understand that commando has the same gameplay as a bayonet, but in WAW this extended melee range had drawbacks. 1)it could only be used on select weapons. 2)It had a longer recharge rate than your standard knife. 3)By attaching a bayonet, you eliminated other possible weapon attachments. With extended melee range as a perk, this has allowed for all weapons to make use of it. The longer recharge rates do not exist with commando. Plus, when you combine commando with a tactical knife, it creates a terribly unbalanced factor to a game where knives are meant as a last resort--NOT as a primary.


Notice that I did not ask for second chance and martyrdom to be removed. People argue that second chance gives the game a sense of unpredictability. I personally think that it inspires teamwork and allows for clans who move in squads together to revive each other. Martyrdom eliminates the problem of campers. If someone is camping a corner and the camper kills someone who just ran around the corner with martyrdom on, then it forces the camper to move his butt from his camping spot before he gets blown to pieces.

That is all I have to say. Thank you very much for taking the time to read this post.