Call of Duty: World at War

I get the feeling Jug isn't increased health but faster health regeneration. I've fired 20 rifle shots slowly into one guy and he never died, without jug he should have died after 3-4.

Snowman8807 wrote:

 

ITS DEFINITELY ALOT WORSE.  BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REALLY USE IT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HACK IT WITH REAL PLAYERS WHO USE THEIR SKILLS TO SURVIVE AND NOT HALF TO USE AN ADVANTAGE OF INCREASED HEALTH.  MOST OF THEM ARE SNIPERS WHEN I PLAY, AND I DON'T SEE WHY THEY USE THEM WHEN YOU COULD USE CAMOUFLAGE PERK, OR THING OF SOMETHING ELSE.  PEOPLE WHO USE JUGGERNAUT ALL THE TIME SHOULD STOP.  I COULD SEE IF YOU WERE LOSING IN POINTS BY ALOT, BUT WHEN ITS AN EVEN SCORE YOU SHOULD PLAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.  BUT THATS MY OPINION, DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE.

WTF hardly any snipers use juggernaut. Snipers are worse affected by Jugger as it means they usually have to shoot someone twice.

BTW can all you noobs stop complaining about perks and guns. You talk about them sucking but your the one's complaining, meaning YOU got owned. If i hear much more whining im gonna put Juggernaut on my mp40, with martydom and Betties.

Alot of people use that perk on cod 4. I do not have any classes set up for that perk. It is way to strong on WaW. I ues stopping power because everyone is running around like juggies.

XxxOExxX wrote:

 

Alot of people during the game complain so much about other people using it. The perk is there to be used to your advantage so deal with it. There are so many other perks which annoys us but you just cop it in the chin and move on. Im sure we all cracked it when you were killed by a bouncing betty.....but what can you do? Absolutely nothing!

If you cant kill someone quickly because they have juggernaut then equip double tap otherwise give up the game. Its that simple. Pretty much every perk in the game has another perk which can beat it. Think about it

Good point.

yeah it definatly had gotten a lot worse from cod4.  i cannot stand when people use juggernaut or martydrom.  those people are ******* and cannot take a hit.  they either have to die to get a kill or it takes them forever to kill someone so they use juggernaut so that they can just stand their and shoot you while you have to shoot them about twenty times for them to die.

stopping power should balance out juggernaut, but mainly it just comes down to knowing you weapons and level layout.

MP40 with short controled burst should do the trick.

normly I would just stick with the heavy machine guns as they are awosome and have alot of ammo and good distance.

over all I dont mind the perk but it never really any real use in game play that I find effective.

remember in cod4 though, where every player used martyrdom. that sh!t me to tears. juggernaut is a nice cahnge where frags aren't dropping out of nowhere all the time.. not saying it's not annoying or anything- just better than martyrdom

well i hate jugg but i do use steady aim i didnt know that was a nubby thing to use. people who use jugg are stupid because i think id rather have stopping power then that bull.

get over it. its a perk, a part of the game if you dont like it go back to some other game. i will only agree when you refer to jugg being used with second chance. thats what realy pisses me off

Too all telling everyone to 'get over it' or that 'we suck if we can't kill someone using juggernaut'...

I haven't seen many people say that can't kill someone using juggernaut, I think they're complaining (me too) about the fact that the perk is a B.S. perk.  I'm sick of people saying stopping power is the same or a counter to juggernaut, they're not the same 'type' of perk.  Same thing with martyrdom and second chance (not a huge fan of second chance, but it's better than martyrdom).  People act like they're the same but they're not.  Juggernaut and martyrdom require no skill, and you can argue they reward bad play (gettting killed or damaged).  At least with stopping power and double tap you have to hit a target for them to work, which requires some skill at least.  I don't suck because I don't like juggernaut and I don't get owned by people using it, what it does do is cause me to get killed more often by the second or third enemy I face.  It takes extra time and ammo to kill the first enemy using juggernaut, so now when I face the second enemy, I'm either reloading or almost out of ammo, or still recovering from my last encounter.  I'm not complaining about perks, I'm suggesting they come up with perks that aid or improve a players skills, not reward someone for getting killed.

yea its annoying to put a whole clip into one person and then they have second chance so then you have 2 shoot them on the ground.

yea the same happened to me yesterday. u know.....its anoying when i use my springfield and increased bullet damage and i shot 1 noob and he doesn't die. THIS PERK MUST BE DELETED (or something). i now ended up playing hardcore where icreased health does almost nothing hehehe(btw i saw a guy 10th prestige who was using this perk........c'mon m8s)

It is an annoying perk and lots of people use it, and to make things worse it will be in Mordern Warfare 2 aswell.

Personally, I think they should get rid of Juggernaut altogether.  It's rather annoying when you unload an entire clip into someone using Juggy and they only drop into second chance ready to kill you with a pistol as you reload.  I think they should replace Juggernaut with something like Body Armor... It can reduce damage whenever shot but it won't protect from other means of killing the user.  In addition, it should also exclude when being shot in the head.  I find it fairly ridiculous when i shoot someone in the head with a PTRS and they keep running because juggernaut allowed them to barely hang onto life.  If any player in the game is shot in the head they should die, I really don't care what gun is being used.

Snowman8807 wrote:

 

ITS DEFINITELY ALOT WORSE.  BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REALLY USE IT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HACK IT WITH REAL PLAYERS WHO USE THEIR SKILLS TO SURVIVE AND NOT HALF TO USE AN ADVANTAGE OF INCREASED HEALTH.  MOST OF THEM ARE SNIPERS WHEN I PLAY, AND I DON'T SEE WHY THEY USE THEM WHEN YOU COULD USE CAMOUFLAGE PERK, OR THING OF SOMETHING ELSE.  PEOPLE WHO USE JUGGERNAUT ALL THE TIME SHOULD STOP.  I COULD SEE IF YOU WERE LOSING IN POINTS BY ALOT, BUT WHEN ITS AN EVEN SCORE YOU SHOULD PLAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.  BUT THATS MY OPINION, DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE.

Ouch my ears!

mont1994 wrote:

 

last night i was playing COD W@W on Hequarters and half the enemy team was Juggernaut and martdon noobs and it got to where me and my friends left the game
5 straight games with juggernaut noobs and no points what so ever for our team
anyone remember on COD4 when juggernaut was just a uncommon thing and usually happened every so and so games? well it got 10 times worse on COD W@W

agree it did

XxxOExxX wrote:

 

Alot of people during the game complain so much about other people using it. The perk is there to be used to your advantage so deal with it. There are so many other perks which annoys us but you just cop it in the chin and move on. Im sure we all cracked it when you were killed by a bouncing betty.....but what can you do? Absolutely nothing!

If you cant kill someone quickly because they have juggernaut then equip double tap otherwise give up the game. Its that simple. Pretty much every perk in the game has another perk which can beat it. Think about it

bomb squad helps against betties, that's what you can do about that, lol

Snowman8807 wrote:

 

ITS DEFINITELY ALOT WORSE.  BUT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO REALLY USE IT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T HACK IT WITH REAL PLAYERS WHO USE THEIR SKILLS TO SURVIVE AND NOT HALF TO USE AN ADVANTAGE OF INCREASED HEALTH.  MOST OF THEM ARE SNIPERS WHEN I PLAY, AND I DON'T SEE WHY THEY USE THEM WHEN YOU COULD USE CAMOUFLAGE PERK, OR THING OF SOMETHING ELSE.  PEOPLE WHO USE JUGGERNAUT ALL THE TIME SHOULD STOP.  I COULD SEE IF YOU WERE LOSING IN POINTS BY ALOT, BUT WHEN ITS AN EVEN SCORE YOU SHOULD PLAY LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.  BUT THATS MY OPINION, DON'T WANT TO OFFEND ANYONE.

Well most snipers use stopping power. I think jugg and stopp. should both be eliminated from WaW.

TwistedD85 wrote:

 

One good idea I heard to counter the excessive use of Juggernaut is to make it a temporary perk, one's locked out once you're past say level 15 or 20. That way it aids you but isn't a crutch for the whole game. Could be the same for stopping power I suppose. As for perks like martyrdom and second chance I'm not a fan of either, I only use them when I want to finish the challenges that require them, but I think they could be left by the wayside. If not that they could do with some tweaks such as your martyrdom grenade wouldn't always have the pin pulled if you were wounded critically enough, same how sometimes the sheer volume of damage you receive at once can negate your second chance and kill you immediately. Speaking of second chance, an interesting twist on that perk could be that you'd have to make yourself sit up to shoot (by holding a stick forward or holding a button) and if when you lie on your back you lose consciousness and die quicker so you really have to have skill to use it properly. Also I really don't know why you can't just throw your grenade when in last stand, it's right there on your person you should be able to at least pull the pin with your teeth and throw it with your good hand. Those are my thoughts on them though.

One of the more intelligent posts on I've seen on here in a while; on any subject, esp. dealing with martyrdom and last stand    5/5

i don't use juggernauth... because i use the perks to make my attack abilities stronger, not for stronger defense.
because i just love to attack and not to defend.

I never used juggernaut, I prefer to use Stopping Power instead. I don't usually pay attention to my killer's perks, so I don't really know how many juggernauters I have come across.