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Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 27 May 2012 22:29:30 GMT

I hear ya bro.... i want to quickscope took me 1 year and a half......... No idea how i can quick scope better then ever noow....

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:38:12 GMT

Yes, it is a low percentage, compared to the amount of people who rock Type 95's acr's and PP90's.

Some people who see a killcam of a quickscope need to remember 1 thing, KILLCAM LAG, its been here since cod has been online. sure that person didnt even fully scope in on the killcam, but when he did it i can assure you he did (unless it was a panic half scope which actually hit inside those crosshairs)

We HAVE to have our middle crosshair directly on you, and even then we will get hitmarkers sometimes.

Killcam/theatre lag........its a helluva thing

EDIT: Also, i honestly didnt see all this quickscope hate start happening untill trickshotting popped up, more or less the people who waited on ladders for that 1 guy, stun them, and TRY for the 1080 theyve been trying to hit for the 878563th time

there is a HUGE difference from trickshotters and quickscopers.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:43:35 GMT

Age has nothing to do with how you play your game, and your not really showing maturity by saying that.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:22:32 GMT

I'm 31, I quick scope. I'd like to think I'm at least a little bit mature.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:51:21 GMT

Because mature adults are the ones running around with a sniper, right?

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:49:49 GMT

derpkrieg wrote:

QSing will NEVER, EVER be removed from an IW game, not because I like it, but because Optic Predator and Zirrgrizz are the face of CoD, snipers are one of CoDs main source of income.

If QSing was in games like homefront and crysis, those games would get more sales. Because QSing is in CoD it draws the little kids and sheltered nerds out of the house and into their local game store to buy a $100 game.

Anyways, I don't mind quick scoping, its trick shotting I hate. It's fun to try and snipe with friends in private match, but it makes S&D a retard only zone and causes many WTF moments.

Yeah... Optic Predator and Zirrgrizz are not the face of COD. Also BLOP's was the second most played and second most selling COD of all the COD's and QS and almost regular sniping was impossible. Yeah it got situated after a while but it is still really hard to QS.

HomeFront failed because of the massive problems it had in the beginning where people's games literally didn't work. Then some people couldn't even l pay online. It wasn't a small issue it was a big one. I didn't play Crysis 2 when it came out so I don't know why it failed.

Also COD cost $60 not $100. Not everyone bought hardened and not everyone bought premium elite. Sniping in COD rather it normal or QS is not the reason COD is what it is.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:32:26 GMT

Quickscoping doesnt even work, u get a hit marker and get cut down by a little kid using a pp90 or type 95

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 15:03:11 GMT

I would not remove quick scoping, you cannot remove quick scoping.

What I would do would be to overhaul the snipers. Slow scope in time to a little longer than it is now with quickdraw (about cod4 speed) Then remove idle sway on snipers, and also dampen the aim assist on them.

Sniper rifles should be dominant at long range. but because of idle sway, they're not. Because of this, they have to be useable in close/mid range.

Without idle sway, snipers would not only be a viable weapon for serious gameplay, but they would also fill the role they are supposed to far better.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:48:22 GMT

If this has been said already I apologize.

The issue of quickscoping is not the fact that it's done. It's fact that people are able to run around with a one shot kill weapon while others are using half of their ammo to kill someone. The power of the sniper rifle being used as an assault rifle is an unfair advantage. I've been quick scoped and the scope is black, no sight picture at all.

IMO it's part of the game as a gimmick for the kids who can say "look what I can do"! The hardest part for me is having been around weapons the majority of my life and spending 9 years in the Army is realizing that yes this is a game and most of it is BS. I hope these kids that play these games don't go in the military thinking they can use these tactics. But then again they will get straightened out their first two weeks of basic training so it's all good.

Quick scope on if that gets your goat but please quit whining when someone does use actual tactics and owns your behind.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:44:36 GMT

"They eat pickles with their butt"??

Wow...what are you on, and where do I find some??

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:37:48 GMT

I have 2 problems with QSing.

1) The fact it out-guns a shotgun at close range,which is ridiculous. Or you empty loads of bullets into somebody and just before they should be dead they hit you with a single bullet and kill you.

2)The asshat players it breeds. I've lost count of the times i've been killed by a QSer and i've watched the killcam,they've been behind me and had to fire 4 or 5 "quickscope" shots to kill me rather than just scoping in and getting a kill. Or when you've got an idiot who's your last player on S&D and rather than playing properly they're trying some sort of trickshot(and usually failing).

I'd be happy for QSing to go as it's just a bit rubbish really. Although I do lay some blame with IW because the maps in this game don't allow for proper sniping.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:33:19 GMT

There was quick scoping in homefront. You just had to aim for the head or quickly switch to the pistol.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 12:20:37 GMT

QSing will NEVER, EVER be removed from an IW game, not because I like it, but because Optic Predator and Zirrgrizz are the face of CoD, snipers are one of CoDs main source of income.

If QSing was in games like homefront and crysis, those games would get more sales. Because QSing is in CoD it draws the little kids and sheltered nerds out of the house and into their local game store to buy a $100 game.

Anyways, I don't mind quick scoping, its trick shotting I hate. It's fun to try and snipe with friends in private match, but it makes S&D a retard only zone and causes many WTF moments.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:17:04 GMT

LOL

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:14:28 GMT

Quickscoping is for punk ***** whiny kids that can't shoot for **** so they have to use stupid exploits cause they're gays that eat pickles with their butt!!!!

J/k

I think quickscoping is silly, I just wanted to be uncivil for a second because I liked the thread title.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 07:09:01 GMT

I palyed MW2 today and most of the people qere OMA noobtubing. There were some quickscopers but they were really inconsistent. Any decent player would merk them.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:44:20 GMT

A sniper should not ADS a reg gun. COD4 was perfect. It should have never been changed. You got play mw2 and atleast 40% of the lobby is QS'rs.. They need to make a sniper only playlist and allow quick draw in that playlist and make it normal in the rest

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:33:35 GMT

Has Bowling ever even played mw2? How the f-uck can someone even think to say the amount of qsing is low after mw2, that game is literally invested with it. I think Bowling has been playing blops for too long..

Have people forgotten how easy and fast you can get an accurate ohk shot off in mw2 constantly? It’s fast now in blops, imagine it being more than twice as fast while getting less hitmarkers & no constant SC kill steals to deal with, with last stand only as a death streak...

An ohk weapon with SMG ads speed & little to no sway, will never be balanced, it’s game ruining for the bigger part of the community. It’s not only qsing that’s so quick, it’s sniping itself quickly all ranges for ohks that’s too easy with the mw2 style.

A specialists weapon should work like a specialists weapon. There is a good balance between scoping / sniping in blops now. The only reason it can be seen as “balanced” in mw3, is because they made every gun easy to use again by building in SP multipliers and adding weapon proficiencies.

Imo they should make getting a kill with all guns Harder. No SP multipliers build in and No quickdraw for sniper rifles, though they should get to keep SP multipliers as counter balance, with the current Initial sway of blops that gets canceled with a bipod thus when playing with stealth. If people want to qs, they should actually be good at it and still keep some range.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:58:43 GMT

Yeah I have no clue if it's been said or not, but I agree with Robert Bowling on this one... and I'm paraphrasing here;

The amount of people who quickscope is low, the amount of people who quickscope and are actually good at it, is even lower.

Re: Quick Scoping... A Civilized Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:01:28 GMT

We tried!!! But I think non-quickscopers are a little biased, and weren't willing to hear our arguments/post logical arguments.

In short: Not good.