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    <title>Community: Message List - The shotgun thread, some basic information about shotguns in MW2, and 2 new shotguns in MW3, still unknown though.</title>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:32:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>The shotgun thread, some basic information about shotguns in MW2, and 2 new shotguns in MW3, still unknown though.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32184?tstart=0#32184</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:354b8085-0b2f-4c44-bf9d-34618ac260ec] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are 6 shotguns included in MW3 as far as i have seen.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1.Spas-12 (pump-style)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2.AA-12 (auto-fire)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3.Model 1887 (lever-action)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4.Striker (Semi-auto)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;5.Usas-12 (Semi-auto or auto, do not know yet)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;6.Ksg-12 (Also a new shotgun, i currently have no information about it)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;OBS: the information about these shotguns are based from MW2, since this is the game that i played the most and i felt that they were the most effective in that game.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The spas-12 is a 8 mag pump action shotgun which has 24 ammo in spare, a quite good range, good damage and reloads with a single shell at a time. This shotgun is good for single targets, and is quite easy to handle. The red dot sight and the grip increases range by a bit, and is recommended for this shotgun.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The AA-12 is a 8 round auto shotgun, which has 8 ammo in spare, so scavenger is recommended to use this weapon. this shotgun is good for executing several enemies at once, allowing for a better chance when facing 2+ enemies at once.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Model 1887 is a lever action shotgun, which has a 6 or 8 mag (i don't remember, i would appreciate correction on this, thanks!) and is good for close range, and this shotgun is special because of the akimbo attachment, allowing you to carry 2 shotguns. This shotgun was deemed OverPowered and they had to patch it, nowadays it's weaker than the spas-12 and sometimes requires 2 shots, where the spas-12 only requires 1 if you hit on the waist, or higher.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Striker is a 12 round mag semi-auto shotgun, which allows for a longer time of shooting before reloading, which could be appreciated if the enemy team is spread across 3 or 2 rooms, which allows you to kill and then run straight to the next room, without worrying about reloading.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The striker is a fairly good shotgun, has a quite good range with medium damage, it usually takes 2 shots to kill an enemy which allows for around 6 kills per mag.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The Usas-12 and Ksg-12, is still unknown to me, and information would be appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ciao for now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:354b8085-0b2f-4c44-bf9d-34618ac260ec] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:01:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32184?tstart=0#32184</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T14:01:54Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32432?tstart=0#32432</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:62f8e05a-08f0-48ba-97a2-1a5b8e435948] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, the spas-12 is wrong, since in the cod XP event, they showed us a spas-12 who looked like the spas-12 from MW2, with a better skin ofc.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't think that they'll change the whole skin of the spas-12, since the bulkier version is quite ugly and it comes from black ops xD.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And sorry, i forgot about the striker, i just remembered that 4 days ago i watched a MW3 video with the striker in it, i'll edit some now &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/grin.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:62f8e05a-08f0-48ba-97a2-1a5b8e435948] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:16:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32432?tstart=0#32432</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T17:16:30Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32431?tstart=0#32431</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a66af63d-4837-4466-8958-5b6c352821e8] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well excuse me, but something happened with the font, i don't know what, and i already said that these were all of the shotguns i had knowledge of, that i knew existed in MMW3.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And no i am not a corner camper, i'm a scavenger rusher, and the reason for a bigger mag is because if im in the middle of 4 guys and i shoot 3 of them, the fourth guy is gonna kill me because i ran out of ammo, that's why i would want a bigger ammo.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And if you want to camp, then you'd better not use a shotgun, they suck for camping, snipers are basically made for camping, and i barely use snipers, maybe if i feel like quickscoping.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But i mostly use sub-machine guns and some burst assault rifles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There, i don't feel like writing anymore right now..... So sleepy -.-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a66af63d-4837-4466-8958-5b6c352821e8] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:13:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32431?tstart=0#32431</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T17:13:52Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32411?tstart=0#32411</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e2d9e796-634f-46a3-8207-4e8bb7f494cd] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p&gt;snapr68 wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;semi and auto shotguns aint really shotguns ,they are spray guns &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p&gt;shot&amp;#183;gun &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;noun &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;\ˈsh&amp;auml;t-ˌgən\&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Definition of SHOTGUN:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- a smoothbore shoulder weapon for firing shot at short ranges&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shotgun"&gt;http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shotgun&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;By definition they are shotguns.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e2d9e796-634f-46a3-8207-4e8bb7f494cd] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:15:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32411?tstart=0#32411</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T16:15:21Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32296?tstart=0#32296</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:da5ad582-126a-4e0a-b150-0bb4c1edbae5] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not even gonna bother reading this with such dark text on the black background, from the comments i don't even want to try.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:da5ad582-126a-4e0a-b150-0bb4c1edbae5] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:14:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32296?tstart=0#32296</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T15:14:55Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32294?tstart=0#32294</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a4eb63d9-f725-436f-b36e-4be9639efe93] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;semi and auto shotguns aint really shotguns ,they are spray guns but more double barrel ,pump and lever shotguns and more bolt snipers would be nice&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a4eb63d9-f725-436f-b36e-4be9639efe93] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:12:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32294?tstart=0#32294</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T15:12:17Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32208?tstart=0#32208</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8fde6f97-681c-4c54-98fd-cb0aa8cbb655] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You're missing a few shotguns there...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;*edit*&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a class="" href="http://community.activision.com/people/Fireman0025"&gt;Fireman0025&lt;/a&gt;'s post above.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8fde6f97-681c-4c54-98fd-cb0aa8cbb655] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:24:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32208?tstart=0#32208</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T14:24:20Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32197?tstart=0#32197</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:48954a3a-76c7-4d79-a3bb-39a9fe1525e2] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt; first of all, all of the places I have seen have 6 shotguns. check out &lt;a class="jive-link-external-small" href="http://www.themodernwarfare3.com/mw3/weapons-list/shotguns/"&gt;http://www.themodernwarfare3.com/mw3/weapons-list/shotguns/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;second, like aceplace said their was a reason for the AA12 had such a small mag. I spray and pray on occasion but that brought it up to a whole new level that was quite rediculous&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;third, shotguns will both have the option for range proficiencies or extra damge. which one will be better, I do not know&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:48954a3a-76c7-4d79-a3bb-39a9fe1525e2] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:18:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32197?tstart=0#32197</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T14:18:23Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32220?tstart=0#32220</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:11b8599d-242b-4709-bd0f-ca2040db854d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Agreed ! And why not a 100 shells mag ? Seriously... &lt;a class="" href="http://community.activision.com/people/PbtTheClan"&gt;PbtTheClan&lt;/a&gt;, are you a corner camper ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:11b8599d-242b-4709-bd0f-ca2040db854d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:13:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32220?tstart=0#32220</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T14:13:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Not funny at all.......</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/32233?tstart=0#32233</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ea251752-e2c2-4fd6-bdb7-47c36a2710ac] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You lost me at "&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;&lt;span style="color: #ff0000;"&gt;AA-12&lt;/span&gt; had a quite low mag on MW2 and i would be glad if they changed the mag to either 12 or 14 rounds."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color: #333333;"&gt;There's a reason it had such a small mag.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ea251752-e2c2-4fd6-bdb7-47c36a2710ac] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:07:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/32233?tstart=0#32233</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-10-12T14:07:02Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 8 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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