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    <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:41:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414089306?tstart=0#414089306</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:1719a43a-b2fc-449b-95e1-4a90481d694a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's such a waste, what's he going to rest his coffee cup on now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:1719a43a-b2fc-449b-95e1-4a90481d694a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:41:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-02-13T22:41:44Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414089417?tstart=0#414089417</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d5a99b74-e129-4409-b71e-bf135c015ec0] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;LOL i did the same thing. Problem was i had 2 copies in the house &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/sad.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d5a99b74-e129-4409-b71e-bf135c015ec0] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:37:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414089417?tstart=0#414089417</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T22:37:57Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414089364?tstart=0#414089364</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fcc2c751-5d89-46ad-adb7-943f76b8cdb4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The only way to truely overcome the lag is to do what my clan leader did :-&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://s17.postimage.org/9eg6onsvj/blops2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img alt="http://s17.postimage.org/9eg6onsvj/blops2.jpg" class="jive-image" src="http://s17.postimage.org/9eg6onsvj/blops2.jpg"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fcc2c751-5d89-46ad-adb7-943f76b8cdb4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:35:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414089364?tstart=0#414089364</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T22:35:43Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414089171?tstart=0#414089171</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3dd3e597-7ce9-46a7-a6a6-ef681f0e8efd] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still have 0 packet loss and my jitter is pretty solid. but it increased my ping by about 50ms average on the pingtests. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Which apparently is still better than most people have. but im rarely the fastest in the lobby. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I do stil pull host every once in a while, which is frustrating because someone with that bad of a connection should never pull host. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3dd3e597-7ce9-46a7-a6a6-ef681f0e8efd] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:55:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414089171?tstart=0#414089171</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T21:55:04Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414087040?tstart=0#414087040</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3ede3a01-10dd-4714-9375-8874205c15e1] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just been on the sky broadband helpline forum and about 50% of the posts are complaints about loss of connection speed and sudden drops in connection.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Think I'll give it a miss, it'll be just my luck that I'll be in that 50%.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3ede3a01-10dd-4714-9375-8874205c15e1] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:48:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414087040?tstart=0#414087040</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T12:48:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414087150?tstart=0#414087150</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ef30b46e-0ba0-4491-b6d9-d066055e2e98] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;blockquote class="jive-quote"&gt;&lt;p&gt;pj600r wrote:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm with sky as well I didn't know they even offered that service, does it affect anything else to do with your service ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;yes it will degrade your line quality and increase dropped packets and connections.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ef30b46e-0ba0-4491-b6d9-d066055e2e98] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:47:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414087150?tstart=0#414087150</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T12:47:20Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414087035?tstart=0#414087035</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:eaf65556-5cc4-4e75-abb7-eba639c68e0f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm with sky as well I didn't know they even offered that service, does it affect anything else to do with your service ?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:eaf65556-5cc4-4e75-abb7-eba639c68e0f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:34:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-02-13T12:34:26Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414087104?tstart=0#414087104</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8ae7740b-7dce-4ac6-9a70-137b69cf5354] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;i'm uk based and on sky broadband, they have a gamer profile they can switch your account to that prioritises low ping, its free and easy to do and helped me no end. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8ae7740b-7dce-4ac6-9a70-137b69cf5354] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:22:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414087104?tstart=0#414087104</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T12:22:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414087050?tstart=0#414087050</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:34b1ff67-f6dc-4148-915d-a8a524eddd1b] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I defeated the lag by not touching my connection.&amp;#160; Works great.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:34b1ff67-f6dc-4148-915d-a8a524eddd1b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:45:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414087050?tstart=0#414087050</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T11:45:41Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414086903?tstart=0#414086903</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:390840e8-6681-4749-90a5-e223416e1cba] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm no expert on the subject but I agree with you, my bandwidth is not exceptional but when I do a pingtest to the furthest away server it only raises about 20 ms from my standard setting.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And having low bandwidth is no guarantee that you don't suffer I can vouch for that, overall the game is just inconsistent IMO.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:390840e8-6681-4749-90a5-e223416e1cba] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:22:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/414086903?tstart=0#414086903</guid>
      <dc:date>2013-02-13T11:22:22Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414086982?tstart=0#414086982</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:78959d8f-00c0-4d2d-975b-4b3dd1f1d329] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bandwidth and ping are unrelated you know.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lowering bandwidth doesn't interfere with ping.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;That's how i understand it anyway.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:78959d8f-00c0-4d2d-975b-4b3dd1f1d329] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:13:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-02-13T11:13:01Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>How i defeat the lag.</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/414086872?tstart=0#414086872</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b2233792-deec-4bae-8ba6-de55548a269d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;From everything ive tried. the goal is to have a steady high latency connection. by high i meen 100ms or so.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(read the bottom if you want to skip the story)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think everyone knows by now that the people with the lowest ping and best connections have the worst experience with this game.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Back in black ops 1. when they really started messing with lag comp. i felt it baaaad.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I thought the best thing would be to improve my connection. I was on here and everywhere else trying to learn how to forward ports and which wires and routers are the fastest. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So now i have some of the fastest internet ive seen. 5ms ping to my home town. 10ms to LA and 50ms or so to NY depending on the server. (im in the west)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2ms jitter. I can hold 32mb DL with only 10kb fluxuation. i even pinged taiwan at 130ms(i took a picture of it). That was speedtest.net though.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I know that doesnt translate directly to the xbox. but i bet its better than 90%.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;as I my connection got faster and faster my gameplay got worse and worse. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Until i read about lag camp and it all made sense. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ive tried lots of routers and modems. but if its not steady then you suffer. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ive done the streaming torrents to attemp to lag. change my mtu. lower the QoS. any a few other things. (even a lag switch haha(they suck by the way))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But they all result in a very unsteady connection. plus it takes alot of torrents to use 30mb of bandwidth.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So finally i want to a thrift store and got a linksys wrt router for $5 and installed dd-wrt. This is a third party firmware that allows you much more settings than the stock firmware.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Theres a few things you can do on there (im not giving instructions). I also hooked it up inline with another router. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Basically what i think did it for me was to limit my bandwidth to 1.8mb download and 0.8mb upload. this is plenty to play the game. I still have 4bars. It just seems much more consistant. I get at least twice as many hitmarkers. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;before this I went 2 days of gameplay(time played) without being able to get one vsat. let alone dogs or swarm or any of the higher scorestreaks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The day i hooked up this second router I got a vsat dogs and swarm. multiple times. the hitmarkers register more often and I get less instant deaths. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Even with that low of bandwidth i cant hit as high as 100ms. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And the connection is still absoloute trash. but for me it is slightly more enjoyable. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry for the long post. Thank you for reading. Hope someone that will work on the next cod reads over these forums.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b2233792-deec-4bae-8ba6-de55548a269d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:02:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2013-02-13T11:02:27Z</dc:date>
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