Community: Message List - Where are all the positive players?

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:49:14 GMT

Good stuff. I'll try and get on this friday

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:33:16 GMT

cool, I will be one this weekend for a bit, specially friday night. i play TD mostly so no problem sticking with you on that.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:32:02 GMT

I have a 3.21 kd and 2.50 spm and i found that if you play to how whatever gun your using is intended, than you should be fine

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:31:33 GMT

who in the competitive scene is loving it exactly ?

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 14:27:34 GMT

I have a 3.0 K/D, 450 spm and I have never dashboarded.

My background is in competitive halo (mlg) and I have always found CoD very easy in comparison.

The reason so many people have seen their K/D's drop is not due to lag/lag comp. it is because the maps in black ops 2 are small and the game design is unforgiving. Previous CoDs had mechanisms that prevented good players/teams from completely dominating the less talented (through map design/other mechanisms). Black ops 2 has largely removed the safety nets that less skilled players relied on to stay alive and get kills.

There is a reasoning why the competitive scene is loving this game...

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 12:58:33 GMT

Cool cool. The mrs is working this weekend so I should be on a lot then. I will try and find you or add you. I have always been a die-hard TDM player but maybe its time to branch out more. I'll play with you in your game modes, whatever you suggest..will be a welcome change and interesting to see these issues, cus I'm honestly in the dark

Thats bad if you have to be thinking about class set up just on the basis of getting around the lag issues. Certainly not how anyone should be playing the game. I have stock on all my weapons except for the SVU, which I run around the map with Acog and suppressor attached-loads of fun I'll tell you hehe

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:49:16 GMT

Honestly, I give very little credence to those statistics as they can be skewed by connection and cheaters.

Best bet is to just go with it and enjoy the kills when you get them. If your play experience is anything like mine you are getting a number of matches where your kills are half what you expect them to be due to weird gameplay issues, so the ones where you just dominate will ballance those out. I wish I had more of those matches and fewer of the ones where I go 5/20 becauyse my bullets appear to be phase shifted or i die before the preson who killed me ever appears to fire their gun or come around the corner.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:35:47 GMT

That's my TDM stats, but I'm getting put in with people as low as 0.30 and low 100 SPM, which seems odd. That's playing solo as well, not partying up with players of lesser stats.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:35:48 GMT

Yes skill based matchmaking is in here. You said yourself that you have a 1.60ish K/D and a 250ish SPM. If you are getting paired up with 1.00-1.50 players with similar SPM. Then it is working fine.

I play everynight and constantly see 1.80-2.50 k/d players and many with 400+ SPM. I roll with with a full team and we consistently get paired with our equals.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:31:36 GMT

I noticed in BOPs2 that a lot of my clan members don't care about kd anymore. I think it's because of the new reward system. Everyone now seems to play the objective at hand and not be a kill whore for kill streak rewards. Being rewarded for capturing flags, hard point or even destroying enemy equiptment can be more rewarding than just running around shooting everyone. But your going to die a lot more trying to capture flags or defending them ect. Hahaha some of the guys hate the new system because they can't just be kill whores and end up on top.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 21:01:43 GMT

Not sure how you know what you wrote abt kill cams n theater but for me when i get that laggy, star trek beam me up death..the kill cam seems fairly accurate. Its not like it shows me in a different part of the map dying from a different person. So splitting hairs here but 95% accurate is pretty darn good.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:41:16 GMT

unfortunately for me, the positive players are always in my lobby. I am an old man playing a young mans game (it is fun, though). I am one of those guys with the .85 K/D ratio. I struggle against good players but am learning and getting better little by little. started by camping when i was terrible, now becoming a little more of a rusher. I am sure that the good players in my lobby are happy I am there. I am a K/D-raising machine

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:12:30 GMT

All the 2+ kd guys I play with, myself included are just bored with the game, I dont think the really good players bother playing BO2 much. The odd time I do play, I rarely see any players with a 2 KD.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:12:14 GMT

SPM is lowest in S&D and TDM. Its highest in Domination and Hardpoint.

Yes, there are campers in every game mode but a camper is only as good as the team around him in objective games. Thats why we see far more people trying to run and gun in objective games in BO2. Full teams who know how to control the spawns are typically seen as campers but in reality, they are just smart teams/players.

Camping is a natural part of warfare and FPS's. But what my first response was answering was the OP's question of where all the better players are. Personally I see much higher KDR's/better players in Objective based games simply because you get scorestreaks much faster. And good players like running high streaks and getting them consistantly.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 18:10:44 GMT

I think what's worse is if you could look at the whole gaming community the win to loss ratio is probably something like 30/70 because of how they dish out losses for people quitting out, joining a game that's on the verge of losing, getting booted out, or someone dashboarding.

By definition, if someone loses then someone needs to be the winner. It should be 50/50. But I guess the devs like having losers play their game.

I gave up on their stats a long time ago. They don't reflect anything anymore.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:48:20 GMT

haahah, you in the uk, don't need a plane ticket then...

I am in London.

ya, it is frustrating, for me personally I have had this lag issue in the last 3 cod games. Every cod game before them was fine. I got normal lag yes, but this lagcomp/smoothing code problem only really became an issue starting with blops1. it may have started for other people in the cods before that, but for me blops1 was the begining of it.

I have tried all the attachments and yes I do find using stock helps. It's not so much that I cannot find my own play style to work round the issue, I can, but to me working round it is not the same as actually solving the problem. If anything it only serves to remind me that the problem is still there.

I found that stock helps and also the laser dot so I can hipfire instantly when I run into smg players etc. some games I don't need any of that and I can feel the difference when it's good and bad. Again, when the game first launched I didn't need any of that and I didn't find there was any problem with it at all. it was only after the first big update and then the hotfixes after seemed to messed it up more.

It's like when I think up a class, I am not thinking of a class setup to actually outplay the other player, I am just thinking of a class that will help me beat the lagcomp.

anyway, if you are in the UK and you are up for a few games I would be happy to play with you. mybe your connections will help me find better games, lol.

my tag is DARK WITNESS if your interested.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:56:39 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0WS9jetcGI

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:56:34 GMT

what? in TDM there is no kill feeding. there is no objective where you can just CAMP OUT(when i play dom, i can just start up a roaring camp fire with a few shots from my MK48 and mow down the masses that blindly rush for B) and farm kills. thats why SPM is lower. because you have to HUNT what you EAT.

i have seen MORE campers in objective modes than i have EVER seen in TDM. why? cause why expose yourself when you can just pitch a tent close to the objective and rake in the dollars hand over fist.

if you camp in TDM... you will be at the bottom of the leaderboard because NO ONE will pass you by and if they do, they will kill you.

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 17:06:48 GMT

Hey mate, I do believe what youre saying. So many people are saying the same things. I can see youre really gutted about it.

A plane ticket? I'm in the uk, are you stateside? Listen, I do get some games Lagging from time to time. I just leave those games strait away, unless its near the end of the match, and join another lobby. But this situation does not happen all the time like people are saying, and also it doesnt happen anymore frequently than other cods. This is just my experiance

As regards head ons with enemies, have you tried strafing left or right with the stock attachment on while firing your weapon? You should start winning a lot of one on ones if you do. I never stay still or move in a strait line while shooting. Dont know it might help

Re: Where are all the positive players?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:39:57 GMT

I do believe him..

Thats just the problem with this game. it's so inconsistant from one person to the next.

If you have had the same game experience for the last 4 or 5 cod games you have been playing then there is no reason to think there is anything wrong with it and from your point of view, well there is nothing wrong with it.

but for someone who has had consistant gameplay for the first 3 or 4 cod games, then all of a sudden the last 2 or 3 they are having issues with (but nothing has changed like isp or anything) what are they suppose to think?

if it was some sort of problem that has cropped up on their line within that time frame, then surely if they put in the old cod games that use to play ok, they would suddenly find they are having issues with that game as well... but this is not the case. Many people who say they have problems with this game state that the past games still play fine for them.

Same thing with the whole not being fast enough argument IMO, I simply don't believe that someone who is a vet and has been playing cod at least since mw2 or cod4 and has been consistant would suddenly lose his edge. Even funnier is that they may have started playing this game and had the same level of proficiency and then suddenly they just drop in skill and now they can't get a kill. The xmas noobs that came on in dec, suddenly they are all faster then him, I don't think that is likely unless he has just come out of brain surgery or something....

truth is it's hard to explain, especially to someone who does not have the problem, or at least thinks they don't have a problem and short of me giving you a plane ticket and inviting you to come and play on my connection there really is nothing that can be said or done to convince someone that there is a problem.

When this game launched the first few weeks my kd was about 1.8+ That was at launch when I didn't know all the maps, I didn't have my best weapon unlocked and I didn't really use any of the higher kill streaks, I was just trying to get my footing and my head round everything. Now I can't seem to get my kd past 1.6 - 1.7 ish. I know part of this is because I have been messing with gun challenges etc, but even then with my default class it's like suddenly I have to work 3x harder to kill anyone and going headon against someone is almost impossible now.