Community: Message List - EMP Overpowered?

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:06:46 GMT

Stop people from spawn trapping otherwise the tac insert will never be removed.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 06:40:47 GMT

take the tac insert out of the game then we can say the emp is op.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:36:01 GMT

Hard-wired renders you immune to the effects of EMP, whether the scorestreak or the nades. I'm not sure if that extends to your weapon, though, if you're using an optic with reticles.

The trophy system is iffy, as the blast radius of an EMP grenade is larger than the "safe" radius the TS provides.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:59:17 GMT

Hard Wired, and that only works on yourself if you're EMP'ed (either by EMP Grenade or EMP Systems).

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:57:07 GMT

This is probably a stupid question, but is there a way of countering the EMP? I'm getting EMP'd each and every game, numerous times, and having Tactical Mask equipped does nothing for this particular Tactical Grenade.

I'm guessing Trophy System is the only repellent...

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:32:12 GMT

Against the outside front wall will just reach halfway into the back room. To reach the back half of the back room upstairs, it pretty much needs to be inside the front door (but only just inside).

Edit:

Wow, one EMP thrown into a house on Nuketown will destroy EVERY piece of equipment in that house, on both floors AND in the garage!

Yeah, I definitely think the range needs to be reduced now! Lol!

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 24 Jan 2013 00:58:26 GMT

What can I say, when you're right you're right.

I'm not normally one to claim that anything is OP or in need of a nerf, that I've taken the time to test it and see just how big the blast radius really is, I have to agree that the EMP does seem a little ridiculous!

(and sorry if I got a little "spammy" for a while there, I was posting from my phone and it doesn't let me edit my posts, so I had to keep making new ones. I'm done for now, though. I've seen all I need to see)

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:54:31 GMT

Well maybe the person threw two and I only saw the one, but either way the EMP grenade still needs the blast radius reduced. Also, I don't know how this effects it but my guardian was upstairs and I think that made a difference. Ill go back and see if the footage is still there.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 23:19:23 GMT

So I just got home from work, and checked to verify that I was remembering/estimating correctly.

An EMP thown in the center of the map on Nuketown, between the two trucks, will not reach the interior of either house.

An EMP thrown up against the outside front wall of either house will not reach a Guardian placed just inside the back door, buton thrown just inside the front door will.

The effective range of the EMP is roughly the full length of the basketball court on Raid, from white line to white line, whatever that is (I'd say probably about 30 feet, give or take).

The effective range at which a Trophy System will take out an EMP grenade seems to be about 5-10 feet less than the range of the EMP.

Personally, that does seem a little big for the EMP. I'd be ok if they reduced it's range slightly, maybe by 5 -10 feet.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 22:33:52 GMT

The back of the inside of the house on the top floor. An emp grenade thrown at the truck took it out.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 21:13:02 GMT

I call BS on this.

There is no way an EMP destroyed your Guardian in the back of the building from the center of the map. No. Way.

This is pure exaggeration, plain and simple. I played HQ on Nuketown just this past weekend, and was confronted with this exact scenario, only the Guardian was in the back of the garage, behind the HQ at the time.

My EMP grenades had ZERO effect on it from any farther than the entrance to the garage/top of the driveway. I'd guess, at most, about 10-15 feet away, tops, with no intervening walls between.

In fact, to destroy another Guardian inside the house, I needed to actually throw my EMP grenade through the front door, in order to reach it.

For your claim to be true, the blast radius would be nearly 1/2 of the entire map (from the back of one house, to the back of the opposite house, with the grenade itself centered in the middle)!

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:47:00 GMT

When an emp grenade hits in the center of nuketown from a random toss and can destroy my guardian in the back of the building its overpowered. Any other equipment does not have that sort of blast radius. It has a greater blast radius than the concussion and the flash bang combined. Overpowered.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:25:48 GMT

More often than people think, it's not "random" throwing. People learn the basic angles and how high they have to look and such before throwing Grenades/Semtex/Betties/C4/etc and get a general idea of where they will land, especially by reviewing gameplay vids. Couple that with general knowledge on common areas where people tend to camp, where traffic tends to flow, and/or Engineer and you're just asking to be hit.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:49:45 GMT

Wow I've heard it all now. Lmfao

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 19:21:56 GMT

fatboyhurst wrote:

Is it just me?

Its just you.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 16:55:01 GMT

lol. your funny. No rushers with little to no skill that just toss emp grenades will own my equipment and placeable scorestreaks bc the EMP grenade is extremely over powered

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:29:19 GMT

I run engineer, scavenger and EMP grenade on all my classes. As soon as I see a sentry or guardian anywhere on the map, its gone in seconds. I just toss them randomly at their direction and its gone. its way OP.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:15:37 GMT

You mean the 'rushers with little skill' that seem to be owning you?

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:27:25 GMT

I died from an EMP grenade blast when I was on the 2nd floor and the guy had thrown it on the bottom floor. At first I thought that the grenade had hit me, but no, the blast had killed me. Maybe the EMP blast radius needs to be reduced? I don't know, it's just really overpowered right now.

Re: EMP Overpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 07:22:58 GMT

Like i said, the main issue i have is the radius

I tested it yesterday on nuketown/Headquarters

I was in a lobby with a few friends and we all ran with EMP greanades, the other team where quit raging as we were bombing the whole map with them

The most i took out was a sentry gun/3 shock charges/2 bettys and possibly a claymore, i didnt quite see all the screen, that was in one hit, thrown no where near the location

What makes me laugh is a lot of you are saying the EMP is fine, and in the next sentence saying its just the radius thats the issue.

As for comments regarding other tatical grenades being the same, erm, no there not, they last a few seonds, the radius is a lot smaller, and they dont have superman vision which can see through walls