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Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:07:59 GMT

I played a lot of RTS (command and conquer) when I was growing up so I guess this kind of thinking has stuck with me. Am I scared to move around the map? No, now that I know the layouts well I will move around but why should I give up on a known positions that work well depending on the game type for me? What's funny is that this IS my weakness yet rarely do I run into someone who exploits it successfully. I am not saying I am perfect but I think many people just don't put enough thought into it and if they get mad, well, that's there problem. Not mine.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:57:52 GMT

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Try this next time: READING

Yes, try to READ what is written before answering posts and seemingly coming of as a ------ ill leave it to your imagination.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:29:07 GMT

Then why did you post this? If you knew camping was just part of it then you wouldnt have an issue being called a camper... you camper.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:00:25 GMT

zvers wrote:
The fact of the matter is that this is like chess. The successful players try to anticipate what the opponent is going to do before they do it and set up to counter it. I like to call it more of "Ambush" style play or heck, even Guerilla warfare works too.

People just don't like to admit that they were out smarted. Period.

It is similar and you can approach the game as a chess game, (openings, mid game, end game) good analogy.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:52:54 GMT

Bingo.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:35:22 GMT

Or they don't see the logic in doing so. Take TDM, the point is NOT TO DIE! Now look at an objective game like DOM on Hijacked. Teammates go left and right and up the "gut". Well, I'll go up the ladder and give covering fire so they can capture the middle objective. Now I'm called a camper. See how flawed that logic is? If we all ran to the same place, we would all get killed. I play solo all the time so I have too, not only anticipate the enemies movements, but I also have to keep an eye on what my teammates are doing since no one is verbally communicating and react likewise. It's the solo players way of winning.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:29:17 GMT

LMAO!!! Finally!

I was called this all weekend long too. It's called playing smart. I'm here, my teamates are there, the enemy is spawning there, bring it on! Simple as that. Lay a betty there because they might spawn there later and put shock charge there as I can tell when someone trips it. I'm not running around like an idiot with an AR in this game. It's funny how people throw the "camper" line around so freely as they run around NO ZOOM, NO ADS with smg just spraying all over the place. Yeah, that's skill <face palm>.

The fact of the matter is that this is like chess. The successful players try to anticipate what the opponent is going to do before they do it and set up to counter it. I like to call it more of "Ambush" style play or heck, even Guerilla warfare works too.

People just don't like to admit that they were out smarted. Period.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:19:33 GMT

thanks for reminding me of something I've known for many years

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:02:54 GMT

I'd like to start off by saying that I believe myself to be a preety good COD player. I have a 1.36 K/D, a 0.92 W/L, and a 451 SPM. I, am a strategic player. I pretty much only use sub machine guns, but I am not always rushing. I prefer to play Nuketown and Hijacked with gamemodes DOM, DEM, HQ, and HP. I love to play the objective. I mean, I went 102-34 on Nuketown HQ last night. I was running UAV, Lightning Strike, and Stealth Chopper. I had 6 captures and 42 defends. I had at leat 5 Stealth Choppers, and it was not all by running and gunning. I would head glitch the HQ; 200 points per kill+the cap=SCORESTREAKS! I would then run around the HQ, srategically getting kills, then I put my scorestreaks on the HQ. After this game, I was called a camper by the other team. IMO, I was strategically playing for the win, outsmarting them, and they were just plain mad about dying by Lightning Strike and Stealth Chopper.I agree with past posts that said that they were A) trying to save face, B) mad about losing, C) bad at the game, D) obivious of what a camper REALLY is...

Camper-A person ADS in corners, who after dying repeatedly tries to come back to that corner. They also do not play the objective and does not have a lot of kills.

Ex. On Nuketown camping next to door in blue house laying next to the couch.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 19:02:43 GMT

Camping is part of any 3rd person shooter.. Why is this an issue.. Its a strategy... if you dont want to camp you dont have to..

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:55:08 GMT

I am not bothered, far from it. I find it curious the amount of times I am being called it. As i mention it in my post it is an excuse at this point.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:53:13 GMT

hahaha double glazing salesman'

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:42:23 GMT

It really shouldn't bother you when selfish MFers say **** to make themselves feel better about their own game. And just laugh it off if anyone ever calls you a "tryhard", because those people aren't really doing anything other than exposing themselves as fools.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:35:32 GMT

I use the turtle beach deltas and i added some custom presets to it. But you want to have Awareness perk on which is in the perk 3 section. Now if your kd goes up don't forget infamouskong helped! :)

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:24:08 GMT

I have no idea if I ever get called a camper or not, because the first thing I do in every game is mute everyone.

Sometimes in the heat of a moment during a game I'll catch myself cursing some guy out for camping (with my mic turned off anyway), but I catch myself pretty quickly. Regardless of what each person's definition of "camping" is--and the definitions vary widely--we all paid the same $60 for the game, and we all earned the right to play it however we like. This goes for other play styles which annoy me, like knife-only and quickscoping, too.

I actually find myself rushing more often in BO2 than I did in previous CoDs. I've never really worried about stats like k/d, but part of that reason is still because the new scorestreak system (which makes it much easier for a player like me to earn effective lethal streaks by playing the objective) means that I can put up respectable kill/death scores more easily in most games. I mean, even if I personally don't care what my k/d is at the end of the day, I still don't want to be that guy who went 6/18 & cost my team the win.

I ran into someone last night who obviously hadn't gotten the memo & was still trying to camp corners with Ghost & a silenced SMG. He did get me once, when our team didn't have a UAV up, but I got him a couple other times and he went massively negative overall. So Treyarch mostly accomplished their goal in BO2: in addition to being terribly boring to do, corner camping is now no longer a good way to impress your friends with a 4.5 k/d.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 17:07:58 GMT

Here's a bit of irony. In previous CoD I got called a camper, a lot. Even though I wasn't camping. This CoD I have done more camping in the first month than previous CoD put together. How many times have I been called a camper in BO2? None. People dont know what they are talking about and just blurt the first excuse for dying that comes to their tiny minds. That said, I did have to laugh yesterday. A team was dominating when I was thrown in to the losing side. I must have had a good connection with the host because in the short time left (about three minutes) I racked up 20 kills and capped three times. After the match a voice from the winning team said "who was that guy?" (meaning me) and his mate said "he must be a double glazing salesman". Maybe that is the name to replace camper, lol.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:58:19 GMT

If someone isn't hacking or glitching, then nobody should be complaining about how their opponents choose to play the game. It's whining, plain and simple, and people need to get over it. When I first started playing I camped out a lot as running around was a sure way to get decimated, but smart players figured me out. Smart players can deal with campers.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:45:36 GMT

Izjar11 wrote:

It also switches the spawn up and we get those "how the heck did he come from behind" moments. He spawned there because your team pushed up ahead.

I was playing DOM on Hijacked and I was the only one going to our home flag. The other team not only avoided it but even went past B to get to the enemy. Before I could even finish capping the flag I was killed by the spawn switch

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:42:16 GMT

Let me ask the community this general question:

Why do you think the majority of players have to push forward at the start of the game?

My answer: It seems that people cannot stay put, they have to move forward into the enemy's territory. I'm not bashing this but why do we have to do it? It also switches the spawn up and we get those "how the heck did he come from behind" moments. He spawned there because your team pushed up ahead.

Re: Excuses vs Calling someone a camper!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:39:21 GMT

I've resorted to CTF in BO2 simply because it's the only hardcore mode worth playing. With the lag problems it doesn't seem worth playing core. I'm actually starting to enjoy CTF when there's a decent spread of players. A 2-2-2 team would be great if you could continually play with like minded people.