Community: Message List - Hardcore Modes

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 13:47:56 GMT

Hit PM and have switched to HC full time now.

Absolutely loving HCKC and also I went back in today and played with some players from yesterday.

Enjoying the game so much more than I did when I first PM'd as it had become a bit stale.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 10:40:35 GMT

People always say "not enough people playing HC" but if you actually look at the numers playing each mode then HC has a lot of players.

Generally the most popular game modes(assuming the numbers playing count is correct) are:

TDM

HC TDM

DOM

HC KC

And then usually S&D(HC and CORE) and Core KC.

There are ALWAYS more people playing HC KC than Core whenever i'm online.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:43:41 GMT

trialstardragon wrote:

But are those 8 million playing all the time or enough to make the daily and weekly play counts higher than that of core? No, they are not. And for as long as HC has an average player count lower than Core it will remain the bastard step child of core and get less support and less game modes in this game. Not until HC is 50% or greater of the general playerbase on any given day will it be deemed as really needing more game modes within it at launch or post launch.

All I play is HC and I am HAPPY that there are only 4 modes. I actually think that there are too many modes in core also. I have been a HC player since COD4 and have not looked back. I have played COD since the original COD and right now I think that the series has gotten lost within itself by trying to add TOO much to the basic overall gameplay. While we all can agree that tweaking things, and adding new things is a good thing, when too much changes the game itself suffers. Look at the drastic leap from COD4 to W@W and then the HUGE leap to Modding Warfail 2. Ever since then the COD franchise has placed more and more emphasis on trying to "overachieve" that in most cases it fails. MW2 was a modding/glitching/hacking/cheating nightmare, MW3 was just HORRIBLY executed with bringing back deathstreaks, ricochet, specialist, and support, BO was about as close to COD4 as far as balance and "fun factor" and was the last in the series that handled hosting correctly. BO2 is hit and miss and while I applaud the changes made, it still falls short of hitting the mark.

Back to the subject, In my honest opinion, the modes should be as follows

Core

FFA

Domination

TDM

CTF

hardpoint

Ground War

Search and Destroy

Kill Confirmed

FFA

Domination

TDM

Kill Confirmed

Search and Destroy

These are all the modes we need. The other modes like "party games" are really just filler slots that under 2,000 people play on a regular basis and take up VALUABLE memory. The lowest populated playlist in HC is Search and Destroy with around 3,500 players playing at any given time, which is FAR GREATER that the league play, mercenary moshpit, demolition, the party games (all 4 of them), and sometimes hardpoint. So by taking out those "low populated playlists" there is PLENTY of room for everyone to be happy.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 02:34:13 GMT

Bring back the respawn timer in hc tdm so the zombie rushers leave. Thanks.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 01:54:14 GMT

trialstardragon wrote:

Not until HC is 50% or greater of the general playerbase on any given day will it be deemed as really needing more game modes within it at launch or post launch.

As much as i hate that i agree with this.. but i do agree with this. Although it would've been nice especially after the debacle of bo1 hardcore playlists that someone would've had the foresight to add at least enough playlists to make a moshpit and 4 normal modes that could be rotated every few months

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 27 Apr 2013 00:27:24 GMT

But are those 8 million playing all the time or enough to make the daily and weekly play counts higher than that of core? No, they are not. And for as long as HC has an average player count lower than Core it will remain the bastard step child of core and get less support and less game modes in this game. Not until HC is 50% or greater of the general playerbase on any given day will it be deemed as really needing more game modes within it at launch or post launch.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:39:52 GMT

Tick7 wrote:

Not enough people playing hardcore game modes to justify more game modes.

The game has been out 6 months now, sorry to say, but you exclusively hardcore players should now this right now.

I do feel as though the playstyle of many in the hardcore playlist is largely responsible for why more people aren't playing HC

Then how come on the HC leaderboards there are over 8 MILLION player listed.....

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 23:10:35 GMT

Another clueless gamer. I used to push for more HC players and modes but tbh I think it should stay underground.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 21:10:03 GMT

Not enough people playing hardcore game modes to justify more game modes.

The game has been out 6 months now, sorry to say, but you exclusively hardcore players should now this right now.

I do feel as though the playstyle of many in the hardcore playlist is largely responsible for why more people aren't playing HC

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:23:54 GMT

They already tryed FFA. It was a horrible performance. Had the least numbers so was replaced with HCKC (THANK YOU 3ARC). It had even worse numbers than CTF. Certainly never would have reached the numbers DOM is currently doing. Sorry to say...

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:40:11 GMT

Hardcore modes

Posted by IDF_Israel_1986 on Apr 26, 2013 3:47 AM

Hello Treyarch

I'd really like to raise this subject again even though I know what David Vonderhaar said on Twitter about hardcore playlists:

I presume that eventually there has been more players JOINING\STARTING to play hardcore game modes than players DROPPING from the playlist since you guys canceled the Respawn delay, Which is great in my opinion. I guess a lot of guys out there are with me, stating that we all avoided playing hardcore playlists JUST because of that matter (Respawn delay), because basically a lot of us truly think that hardcore is a more challenging, realistic and fun to play.

Anyways, I think that harcore free for all (With no respawn delay) is a mandatory option in every Call of Duty game. Free For All is one of the best modes out there, where you encounter some really great players who play individually. Unlike team based games with respawn pattern that you can easily anticipate, Free for all is more tough to predict, where enemy players can reach you from all over and the game is really insane this way.

I'm sure that Hardcore free for all will attract more players than hardcore capture the flag\demolition\domination...

Free for all is a basic... it is where all shooter games started (along with TDM) and i guess a lot of guys out there would really love to play a super fast paced free for all game with hardcore settings (AGAIN with no REspawn delay).

I'd really suggest you make a survey or somthing to measure really how many of us would like HC FFA to be added to the HC Playlist OR to be REPLACED with another game mode on this playlist...

Guys like me who play from israel, almost never have the chance to play with full 4 bar connection, and there's always a lag (most of the time its 3 bar connection) which we all have come to accept, unfortunately, so playing hardcore is better for obvious reasons while considering connection measures that come into the picture..

Anyways I don't want this post to be Personal or to state that this is MY OWN PRIVATE OPINION because i know it wont count and i clearly understand that making a playlist for less than 1% of the population is fairly uneccessary. STILL, I'd suggest to check up on this matter, And i really hope Hardcore Free For All will make its return... this is a great game mode (and a lot of us can't play decently while lagging, which could be reduced in its effect while playing hardcore)..

Waiting for you opinion\reply

Thank you very much

IDF ISRAEL 1986

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:09:56 GMT

I'd love a HC Moshpit and HC MT Moshpit

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:59:35 GMT

Blops 1 had sick maps!

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:31:38 GMT

jornum wrote:

I gotta agree. I thought the League play would at the very least have some HC **** in there. I am also highly pissed about the lack of HC game modes. Where is Dom? That is one of the top 3 modes played. I am hoping that Warface is gonna ROCK after this lapse in judgment from treyarch

Warface look kinda of cool I have been playing GHost Recon Online and this looks similar to it only with co-op mode...awesome! Will definitely check it out.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:28:11 GMT

Restore_Hardcore wrote:

I missed out in blops, I only played hc tdm. Never really played HQ till today, hella fun! I would welcome it in HC for sure. I'm actually gonna play HC HQ in custom games next time I'm on, I don't need the XP anyway.

Yeah you definitely missed out if you didn't play HC HQ in BO1. Best CoD gaming experience ever. Esepcially on maps like Firing Range, Jungle, Summit, Grind, WMD Stadium, Kowloon.

BO1 had a ton of great maps

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 27 Mar 2013 03:53:21 GMT

I gotta agree. I thought the League play would at the very least have some HC **** in there. I am also highly pissed about the lack of HC game modes. Where is Dom? That is one of the top 3 modes played. I am hoping that Warface is gonna ROCK after this lapse in judgment from treyarch

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 26 Mar 2013 06:19:37 GMT

HCHQ in BO1 remains the best experience I have ever had in COD. HQ was an abomination in MW3, and the lack of HCHQ at launch for BO2 was very disappointing.

^This big time!!

I miss BO1 so much. BO2 just couldn't live up to BO1. Sure it sold a lot, but that is becasue we all got suckered into it. BO1 had better maps, better control of classes, better class balance and didn't hold your hand.

I was looking forward to league play but even that is a joke. I want to play 6 vs 6 league anything goes all perks all kill streaks etc. I want to see clans battle it out to see who really is the best, not this waterred down nonsense that league actually is.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:56:57 GMT

We need Hardcore HQ and hardcore domination !!!

Nobody plays hq s&d

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:43:42 GMT

True.

Re: Hardcore Modes

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 18 Mar 2013 03:43:32 GMT

I missed out in blops, I only played hc tdm. Never really played HQ till today, hella fun! I would welcome it in HC for sure. I'm actually gonna play HC HQ in custom games next time I'm on, I don't need the XP anyway.