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Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:41:44 GMT

If you read the info out there, everything will be unlocked in certain League Play matches (I think the 4 on 4, but don't quote me on that, I will try to find it).

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 14:39:52 GMT

But there are still Prestige Tokens that allow you to purchase more Custom Classes, bring equipment from one Prestige to the next. His question is a good one in that MW3 gave us Tokens for every game we prestiged in. Nobody knows if this game will do this or not yet.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 30 Sep 2012 01:23:39 GMT

No. The Black Ops 2 token system is very different compared to the "Prestige tokens" in MW3.

You earn one unlock token per level, giving you access to any one item in CaC. There are 55 levels in MP, which gives you tons of unlock possibilites.

Since there are more than 55 pieces of equipment, you will have to Prestige to unlock more and more items for your CaC.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 30 Sep 2012 00:36:50 GMT

does previous games like mw2 black ops etc. give you an extra unlock token if you prestiged on the previous CoDs?

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 23:00:39 GMT

No I would like to be able to play the game strategically.

If I could unlock anything with my token at any level I would be absolutely fine with the system (weapon, perk,score streak, etc).

Remember you now have the option to play ranked matches. I don't want to enter ranked match making with out the ability to play the game in different ways using all the game has to offer.

The prestige system and ranked match making have competing interests. The level progression and unlock system are the bridge between those two playlists. Currently the prestige system penalizes players who want to play ranked match making. Should I only play 10 games of ranked play per prestige when I am at level 55? It seems kind of dumb that the systems don't interact well with one another.

I want to prestige I like the challenge but to do so I need to be very selective in when I play ranked matches if at all. Would you really enter ranked matchmaking if you were a level 1-20? How many unlocks before you would be comfortable playing a ranked match?

If you are a stealth player that likes to use ghost to flank the enemy team and the ghost perk does not unlock until level 43 are you going to play ranked match making at levels 1-43?. You may be your teams best flanker but you cannot flank as effectively because you don't have the advantage of your key perk for 40 some levels.

Ranked match making worked in Halo 3 because everyone started the match with the same gear. This is the only way to ensure that the better team wins. The level progression system needs to support the ranked match making if it is going to be successful.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:50:20 GMT

Been a while, but its nice to see some new info coming out. I'm sure they are sitting on the HC details, but I like how they cut out Sabotage, absolute garbage playlist thats always empty. I like the prestige setup, and I really like the emblems, they brought back my two favorite from BO, and actually gave us prestige emblems, unlike the jokes in MW3.

I also like how there are dedicated servers for PC but no custom servers, that was a terrible idea that ruined BF3 and didn't even work for BO. Its impossible to find a good server, with good map rotation, and good playlist rotation. Just too much of a chore. I saw that joke petition and laughed, and was gonna say something but Foxhound got there first. So far I have no concerns about the game.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:08:11 GMT

Darn, Bit boring seeing 2 old prestige emblems return rest look good though.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 17:13:33 GMT

Yup. Legit.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:51:57 GMT

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:32:50 GMT

I always prestiged. Once on COD4, 7th on Waw, 9th on MW2, 15th BO and 15th on MW3. I like the way this new system sounds. Level 1 to 55 or 65 or 70 or 50 or 80 was an individual journey that you could multiple times. There's no pro perks so you don't have to grind out those challenges. We don't know how exactly the gun chalenges will work so the lack of xp to earn isn't a valid argument.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:25:59 GMT

which emblems? (I don't see a photo or link recent here.) I can tell you if they are.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 16:16:29 GMT

Are those prestige emblems legit?

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:03:56 GMT

I am most excited for the leagues. I was really tired of pubstomping, and now I actually want some competition.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 04:00:08 GMT

Agreed.

For the first time, Prestige means something. Its a continuance, not a reset. The number of challenges in this game is going to be through the roof. If every weapon has camos, and you need to do challenges to unlock said camos... and challenges to unlock attachments.. that is a LOT of challenges and a LOT of reason to keep playing. I loved Black Ops, but one thing about it was once you had your setups... there wasn't much to work for.

They are never going to make everyone happy, but I just don't get this kind of thinking that this poster is spouting. Games are supposed to challenge, it is not Tee ball where everyone gets a trophy.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:50:42 GMT

Yeah, I don't see what your big problem is with the prestige system. It may not be completely "revolutionary", but so what? It's better than it was before, for the first time I may actually prestige more than twice. I always hated how it erased everything I had ever accomplished, I mean how many times have I "stuck a semtex on enemy player's crotch and get 4 kills of enemy players wearing blue shirts" challenges. And then I have to reset that and try it again? So I'm happy with what they've done, but no, it's not COMPLETELY different or innovative compared to the other COD games. Big deal. If you want to be disappointed by the whole game just because of something trivial like that, go ahead, there's nothing that will change your mind. But I still think they've pushed the boundaries in so many other areas of the game, and changed enough that the people who say Blackops 2 is another copy paste COD need their heads examined. They've really taken a lot of cool features and elements of 4 or 5 of the best selling FPS's and combined them all into one bad A game, with a little Treyarch flair.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:38:58 GMT

To much over-thinking. Just wait until the game to comes out to critisize it.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:09:29 GMT

So basically you want everything handed to you without any effort on your part? I think the system allows for tremendous diversity in gameplay styles. You don't have to prestige, you just have to choose wisely about what you want to unlock. There are thousands of challenges. What more do you want? Just want to be given everything because you aren't willing to work for it? This is the most absurd thing I have read to date.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 29 Sep 2012 03:03:01 GMT

Thank you for posting the information all in one location.

I guess someone is going to have to explain to me why this new unlock/Prestige system is a good thing.

The "spin" that Treyarch is trying to sell is that this is some new and revolutionary system.

Here is the information from one of the articles posted above:

Multiplayer in Black Ops 2 consists of 55 ranks and 10 levels of Prestige. In previous games, the Prestige system was simply starting all over again after spending hundreds of hours ranking your player up. To Treyarch, this didn't make sense, so they changed it up entirely. In Black Ops 2, choosing to Prestige isn't a punishment, but rather a continuation of your multiplayer experience.

When you choose to Prestige, your weapon experience and unlocks are not reset. Progress made towards challenges is also not reset upon Prestiging. When you Prestige, you are automatically given an Unlock Token. This token allows you to unlock any item regardless of level requirements. On top of that, you have three options to choose from in addition to the Unlock Token:

Extra Custom Class Slot - This enables you to increase the amount of custom classes available by one class, up to 5 total.

Stats Reset - This is for Call of Duty purists. Those who want to experience Prestige in Call of Duty as a full reset like it has been for the last several years.

Refund - Once you spend your unlock tokens, they're gone. If you choose to Refund, however, you get all of them back. This means that if you spent a handful of tokens on some shotguns and sniper rifles that you never use, you can opt to Refund and start your unlocks over from scratch.

So let me get this straight -

We now need to use tokens to unlock stuff and based on basic math number of items vs number of tokens it appears likely that having everything unlocked is not available unless you prestige. How many times you need to prestige is unknown but it is likely at least once.

So now players who don't have the time to spend with the game are penalized leaving players who have the time with all the gear. This is anything but revolutionary and a hugely unfair change to the game. Players should not be penalized because they can't spend 300 - 500 hours playing MP.

Then we move on to what happens when you prestige. In Black Ops 2 when I prestige I don't have to use a token on gear that I have already unlocked. HOWEVER I STILL CANNOT USE THE GEAR UNTIL I REACH THAT LEVEL. So now I don't get to re-do the challenges for the extra EXP and I still can use the gear till I re-rank up. Exact same system as MW3 with a less EXP.

Now I do get one unlock token which works the exact same as it did in MW3. So no change there except for the fact they have not announced if I will get extra tokens for palying previous games.

Stick with me the game changing stuff is still yet to come .

I can get up to 5 extra custom class slots! I am so pumped about this I mean MW2 had it Black Ops had it MW3 had it and oh yes the great improvements will allow you to access 5 custom slots if you prestige enough.

If you choose to continue on or you decide you want to wait on a custom slot you can do what you could do in every other game when you prestige and reset everything including challenges. Wow I almost fell off my chair when I read that part. Man this is really changing things up from the last game.

However, let us not forget that we now cannot unlock everything if we don't prestige so they have been kind enough to allow us to refund our previous unlocks.

When I look at this system compared to the original Black Ops I just have to wonder what were they thinking. They had the system in place that was most prestige friendly(Black Ops 1). It worked great the penalty to prestige was small. You could earn the gear you wanted in 20-30 games. The players were able to choose how they wanted to approach the game. If they wanted to run and gun they could. If they wanted to have a HC loadout they could.

Now players are forced to play the game how Treyarch wants them to play the game. THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER. Look how well that worked in the absolute fail that was MW3. They made small maps which resulted in bad spawns. Activision wanted everyone to run around like chickens with thier heads cut off not caring about how many deaths they have.

Consider me disapointed.

Re: Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:20:22 GMT

That's some good info, man. Thanks.

Latest MP info

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:55:35 GMT

Activision's Community Manager, Dan Amrich, released this interview with David Vonderhaar today. Has some good new intel about the game that I thought you all would find interesting.

Here is the link to the Article- http://oneofswords.com/2012/09/in-deeper-with-call-of-duty-black-ops-ii-multipla yer/

A few highlights from the article

Core Modes announced-

Team Deathmatch (Available in Multi-Team)

Free-For-All

Domination

Demolition

Kill Confirmed(Available in Multi-Team)

Hardpoint(Available in Multi-Team)

Headquarters

Capture the Flag

Search & Destroy

Multi Team matches can be set up with up to six teams, and you can set them up for Handicap Matches (Meaning lopsided teams, such as 11 on one, 3 on 6, and so on forth.)

Discusses some new Maps-

1)Express - Bullet Train Station in LA

2)Overflow- Urban Destruction in Downtown Pakistan after a River flooded leaving the streets littered with debris and boats. On Domination, all three capture points on the main street.

3)HiJacked- Private Yacht, has hot tubs to hide in.

Party Games- Per Vahn "Wants you to play these with your COD party", and will include Gun Game, OIC, Sharpshooter, and Sticks & Stones at release but expects list to evolve over time.

Combat Training, as we knew, is returning, but with these changes-

1)No longer on its own progression level, integrated with your "real" MP rank.

2) In "Boot Camp" mode you can play 12-player matches with 3 human and 2 Combat Training Bots per teams. The first 10 levels you gain in CT are REAL levels that you keep for your Public MP rank.

3)Objective games in CT will give you XP beyond Level 10 but at 1/2 the rate.

4)Bots can play Objective Matches now, except for S&D.

5)A third CT mode, Bot Stomp, allows a six player human team to take on AI teams. A good place to practice team tactics.

Custom Games support every variation of every game mode. You can also build custom classes, add bots, modify rules, and restrict content (Hate Claymores?... Ban em) YOU CAN CHANGE CAC FROM A RANGE OF PICK 5 to PICK 17 in CUSTOM GAMES.

Challenges- All offer XP and number in the thousands.

1) All personalization features such and cosmetic elements like reticles and weapon camos are tied to challenges. EVERY WEAPON IN THE GAME, INCLUDING LAUNCHERS AND KNIVES AND ASSAULT SHIELDS, HAS CAMO.

2) Camos- Ten in base set of challenges, once you unlock those you open up more. Gold and Carbon Fiber confirmed.

3)Reticles- 8 per Optic, one is shaped like a Mustache.. another a Biohazard Symbol called the "Zombie Stopper"

4)Challenges will unlock emblems and backgrounds for your playercard.

Emblem Editor now has 32 layers and transparencies as well as a full RGB color picker. Over 150 shapes, but you only get basic Geometric shapes to start with. Challenges unlock the more complex Shapes. Over 150 Playercard backgrounds, special ones again unlocked by challenges.

Theater Mode Returns-

1)Can bookmark films and search by results (Games in which you went 30 and 2 for example) as the game will retain metadata about each match. Victories sorted seperately from losses.

2) Community Tab to keep up with Friends' theaters.

3)You are now allowed 20 clips in a film, Twice as many as Black Ops. You can also combine clips to free up more spots.

4)Can see any player in First Person, and can attach a camera to any object. Thus, can show an RPG kill from the rocket's perspective.

5)Highlight reel function- Will automatically put together a highlight reel of your match based on what the game feels are your best moments in a match.

PRESTIGE SYSTEM-

1)Prestige does not reset Weapon XP or Challenge Progress, you pick up where you left off.

2)When you prestige, get an Unlock token, which you can use to unlock an item permanently, add a CaC slot, Reset all stats, or refund your level tokens (Cancels out all choices you made in that prestige and allows you to redistribute your unlocks for different items)

3)WHEN YOU HIT HIGHEST PRESTIGE LEVEL YOU ARE AWARDED PRESTIGE MASTER TITLE AND ALL CONTENT IS UNLOCKED.

Sadly no news on Hardcore yet at least here. Any thoughts?

More Info here- http://www.charlieintel.com/2012/09/27/mp-declassified-prestige-emblem-editor-th eater-mode-gamemodes-combat-training/

Gameplay on Overflow- http://www.g4tv.com/videos/61001/call-of-duty-black-ops-2-overflow-multiplayer-g ameplay-video/

Thanks to basketball1367- http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/4r5urv/call-of-duty--black-ops-ii-express-map-tdm-debut-gameplay

Thanks to StarbuckFrack- http://www.fpsgeneral.com/news/call-of-duty-black-ops-2/21789-brand-new-call-of- duty-black-ops-2-multiplayer

CharlieIntel FAQ- http://www.charlieintel.com/2012/09/28/our-community-faq-on-black-ops-2-mp/

Gameplay on "HiJacked" From Hutch-

Prestige Emblems from CharlieIntel.com- http://www.charlieintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/20120928-092745.jpg