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    <title>Community: Message List - Rip Off</title>
    <link>http://community.activision.com/community/call_of_duty/english/black_ops_2/forums/spaces/zombies?view=discussions</link>
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    <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:36:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382911?tstart=0#413382911</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ecab1817-aff3-45ef-a088-536cfcce1c9c] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you preorder online, it can be really hard, or impossible to cancel and preorder the hardened, a lot of sites don't offer online credit (like gamestop stores do for cancel preorders) so you might have to find a friend that is cool buying your preorder, perhaps at a lower price, take his money and put it towards hardened. Hope that helped, internet is lame sometimes sorry for all the people who got jipped.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ecab1817-aff3-45ef-a088-536cfcce1c9c] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:36:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382911?tstart=0#413382911</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T18:36:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382822?tstart=0#413382822</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c0f8b0a5-e3b8-4774-b34c-2ebc6be94f90] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;i just cancelled ym amazon order and ordered the hardened at no cost?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c0f8b0a5-e3b8-4774-b34c-2ebc6be94f90] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:41:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382822?tstart=0#413382822</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T14:41:23Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>1</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382781?tstart=0#413382781</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:78b0c203-e310-4444-ab4d-719965622f04] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the sole reason I wait untill the last possible moment before pre ordering anything!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:78b0c203-e310-4444-ab4d-719965622f04] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:15:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382781?tstart=0#413382781</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T14:15:08Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382475?tstart=0#413382475</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:62979e38-c335-4298-88c3-05010bab6c35] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;im just gutted i cant upgrade to hardend. amazon wont let me. but im lucky, i game share and my m8. so roll on 13th of nov. other than that i do agree u should not get nz free with the regular pre order edition some ppl have payed money thy cant afford, to get this map. and for it to just be given to all would be one almighty slap around the face, for those who have purchased the upper tiers of the game. so quit ur whining coz it aint gonna change. u want nz&amp;#160; then dig deep and pay for it like the rest have&lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/mischief.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;the man that came saw and filled zombies with lead&lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/cool.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:62979e38-c335-4298-88c3-05010bab6c35] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:17:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382475?tstart=0#413382475</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T10:17:54Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>3</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382474?tstart=0#413382474</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:18aea7da-7186-4e16-a13e-84e72911128e] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;that would be the price of it bought sepratley so how are u being ripped off?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:18aea7da-7186-4e16-a13e-84e72911128e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:10:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382474?tstart=0#413382474</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T10:10:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>4</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382473?tstart=0#413382473</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7f56d4f9-03f4-4df6-8ce0-451e9f306d5e] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;agree moon and der riese were of a diffrent class to the others both pushed zombies into the future for zombie game play &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7f56d4f9-03f4-4df6-8ce0-451e9f306d5e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:07:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382473?tstart=0#413382473</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T10:07:35Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 5 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382173?tstart=0#413382173</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:1e7be6d4-3a80-4f88-b452-7c1499099693] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;u know it&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:1e7be6d4-3a80-4f88-b452-7c1499099693] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:52:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382173?tstart=0#413382173</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T02:52:27Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413382211?tstart=0#413382211</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:57bdf886-632a-48b4-831d-f4ebc98e03d4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did u guys see that zombies prevview man it was so interesting. I think the voice is a recording of richtofen. I cant wait for the worldwide primere, its gonna be awsome!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:57bdf886-632a-48b4-831d-f4ebc98e03d4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:50:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413382211?tstart=0#413382211</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-20T02:50:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 6 days ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413377128?tstart=0#413377128</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d8bcc5b3-166d-471a-8966-6de8f88af7ae] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Where did you preorder from? Cause that's kind of stupid. I preordered the normal game from Gamestop and when i heard about the Hardened edition I called the store and asked if it was possible for me to change my order and they said yes&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d8bcc5b3-166d-471a-8966-6de8f88af7ae] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:04:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413377128?tstart=0#413377128</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T20:04:49Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>2</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413377105?tstart=0#413377105</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:be04ee82-30c4-4da5-8e2e-79ac3597109c] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I Preorderd The Normal Version... &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A Couple Weeks Later i Hear That There Wil Be NTZombies... but only for hardend....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So i can't cancel my Preorder And Get The Hardend ed.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; Rip off ... &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/sad.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They Should make the Hardend ed. Like a DLC... &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then you can just Buy it Separately...&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:be04ee82-30c4-4da5-8e2e-79ac3597109c] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:34:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413377105?tstart=0#413377105</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T19:34:07Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>3</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413377140?tstart=0#413377140</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cbf62380-a888-4763-a8c5-9dc0376c5b1f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;The real rip off is the care package edition, it costs &amp;#163;40 more than the hardend edition (at the GAME website) just for a remote controlled quadrotor and some crappy posters!!! &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cbf62380-a888-4763-a8c5-9dc0376c5b1f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 19:16:21 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413377140?tstart=0#413377140</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T19:16:21Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
      <clearspace:replyCount>5</clearspace:replyCount>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413377008?tstart=0#413377008</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:dc9232f7-ca54-4193-aa26-1e114a54f626] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;more like the best zombies map ever made&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:dc9232f7-ca54-4193-aa26-1e114a54f626] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:19:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413377008?tstart=0#413377008</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T18:19:57Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413377007?tstart=0#413377007</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fdfe9e5f-cc42-4f88-a5e4-2338265a99a2] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;its is basically the benefit of having to pay for xbox live vs being free on playstation&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fdfe9e5f-cc42-4f88-a5e4-2338265a99a2] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:19:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413377007?tstart=0#413377007</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T18:19:12Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376750?tstart=0#413376750</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b0dcbde8-69ee-4fa6-916a-020ee0f36892] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Really...The Bonus's included in the Hardened and Care Package Edition belong to those packages. Stop whining about why standard people are not getting it with their game. We are paying more for the game. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b0dcbde8-69ee-4fa6-916a-020ee0f36892] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:11:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376750?tstart=0#413376750</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T15:11:59Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376692?tstart=0#413376692</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8bdbb2cc-3cab-4788-bd0b-01ccf6d0151d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those "Plastic Coins" are metal and come with download codes inscibed on them that will give you the exclusive camo and emblem stuff. As for Elite renewal we don't know what the fourth wave is so there is still hope and you basically paid for elite anyway with the MW3 because you paid the same price just to get some postcards aswell. If you really want it renewed and don't want the exclusive stuff don't buy the hardened edition and use that money to renew your subscription.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8bdbb2cc-3cab-4788-bd0b-01ccf6d0151d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:33:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376692?tstart=0#413376692</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T14:33:12Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376517?tstart=0#413376517</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7b967afe-7281-4595-9512-6e6914c79a52] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nukez (Nuke-zee)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7b967afe-7281-4595-9512-6e6914c79a52] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:27:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376517?tstart=0#413376517</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T14:27:30Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376516?tstart=0#413376516</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b5bc70b3-94d7-407d-9872-6f24dea98f53] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;But, moon did stink.... ^.^ Worst zombie map I've ever played. &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/happy.gif" width="16px"/&gt; My opinion, of course.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b5bc70b3-94d7-407d-9872-6f24dea98f53] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:24:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376516?tstart=0#413376516</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T14:24:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376590?tstart=0#413376590</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:230f0dd7-41c0-44f2-b3cb-1931494476a6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Those coins are common in all of the military. However they are not for trade. You give them to people who either earn them( getting a high officers coin), or someone you respect. I was in the military for 10+ years. I have many coins and have givin many away.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:230f0dd7-41c0-44f2-b3cb-1931494476a6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376590?tstart=0#413376590</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T13:42:48Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376372?tstart=0#413376372</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4db6574b-45ac-4a45-b455-2ab72a5bd72a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;okay comeon like you dont want the soundtrack with all the sexy music. black ops 1 has amazing songs in each zombie map&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4db6574b-45ac-4a45-b455-2ab72a5bd72a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:41:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376372?tstart=0#413376372</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T07:41:02Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Rip Off</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/413376206?tstart=0#413376206</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:14c3f2f5-458f-4697-a88e-8875cc4f69fb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;thats what i am doing tomorow and im getting from gamestop walmart has hardened edition but you can only order site to store thingy. gamestop lot easier just did not want tow ait 4 hours in line for midnight release which i will be doing when i could of went to walmart spent 20 minutes in line pick it up and get home :&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:14c3f2f5-458f-4697-a88e-8875cc4f69fb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:40:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/413376206?tstart=0#413376206</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-09-16T07:40:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>8 months, 1 week ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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