Community: Message List - People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 02:13:00 GMT

as a noob finally learning how to read a team. i play goal games and you can tell at times if your players are only interested in KDR or the goal. one way to tell is your team members are always in buildings not so much to snipe but hunting down the badguys who are playing for KDR also.what i do is go for the goal of course i get killed a lot but some time in the game my teams players who are everywhere will run across me and help me cap a flag or defuse a bomb and then i will take off and go for the next goal and the players will start following me. yea it is a ton of work for a COD goal game but with the type of players that been on the teams now, it is complain, or try to get some of these players to be part of the team.and for whats it is worth, there are more threads about KDR here than goal game wins. also just about all the clans here want a KDR of 1+.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 11:04:17 GMT

This is the exact reason why I stopped playing objectives in COD. As a matter of fact, I havent played any objective matches consistantly since MW2. Now on MW3 I have played a fair share of objective modes, but I have not played them as much as I have played HCTDM. And the main reason for that is because of what the OP is saying, people DONT play the objectives much anymore.

I got rid of this game to get BO2 and I probably wont get it back until it is cheaper. I dont think I would find it any different than when I left it. The maps are something to hate, there are hardly if not any maps worth using a sniper rifle on and the camping is just plain horrendous.

And for those who say to "play in a party", I really dont think you guys realize how much the term its easier said than done applies here. First you have the fact that many people on our friends list dont even have the game and if they do, they dont want to play it because of th BS. Then you have the fact that most randoms you play with wont want to play in a party. It is not that easy to just "get a party".

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:20:48 GMT

Yeah I have to agree. I don't like it when people do not try to win. I really haven't played anything as much as TDM. That was because when I would look at how many people were playing what type of game. The numbers were so big in TDM and so small on the other types. Made me feel like I didn't have much choice about what I wanted to play.

When I did play other types, I did always try to win.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 17:11:09 GMT

Do you guys know the ACTUAL way to stop all this KDR bullshit..?

It's really quite simple.

All IW/Treyarch have to do is to get rid of KDR full stop. So don't show how many kills you've earned totally, don't show how many deaths you've had totally. So no one will know, and thus, no one will care.

But of course, they should keep WLR to show how good you are at winning games.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 25 Dec 2012 16:19:30 GMT

This is the result of a generation that got awards for "participating".

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:07:15 GMT

WKMMS wrote:

The simple solution to that is that kills earned in objective game types don't count towards your KDR. KDR should only be made up of kills from FFA and TDM where that matters most... maybe KC too

This makes a good debate, I agree with the above but instead of complete no count, have only defence and attack kills count to K:D

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 02:25:34 GMT

Story. of. my. life

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 28 Aug 2012 02:23:21 GMT

so then why are you in an objective lobby? other than to the easy pickings on all the lemmings going to the same place. if you want to get the most kills thats what tdm and ffa are for. if you dont care about winning or losing maybe you shouldnt play a game mode that is all about wins and losses? people like you are the reason i dont like playing obj games, you want some kills play tdm and ffa and see how many you get over there, youre good right? where its about kill or be killed rather than waiting back killing someone you know is coming to the flag or bomb, making it a heck of alot easier. great teammate that could care less as long as he gets his.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:23:37 GMT

exactly... in objective modes like domination, I will tac insert and "recon by death" as I like to call it, almost single handedly holding down the objective, my KD will be sad but my score will be high and I like to try to win. In these modes dying doesnt automatically ding the team so its a useful tactic when needed. However in tdm and such I will suicide myself to avoid giving the other team a predator kill, or to bring down a chopper asap... there are many ways to play when KD is not top priority. I have about 51000 kill overall and 55000 deaths... I am currently working on improving my kd to a 1 so I can retire mw3 with 10th prestige and pos kd.. I am using 3on3 for this as I usually go plus 10 kills each game... however I always pick up tags when they are near, winning is still my primary goal... looking at my w/l ratio you may not suspect that but I back out like crazy whenever there is a bad connection. So the moral is STATS rarely tell the whole story. high KDs are usually associated with some kind of stat-whoring tactic.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:05:25 GMT

I think the lobby issue by you is not broken. I think it is the amount of players playing over there and thus forcing you into North american lobbies.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 25 Aug 2012 02:46:20 GMT

its beacuse they cant do well in modes were they cant kill objective players

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Aug 2012 22:50:50 GMT

i hate playing solo when they put me on a team with people who can't play the objective just camping they're spawn. i rather play MW3 with good people than bad players. i got this game on xbox trying to rank up to where i was on the PS3. if you or anyone wanna play sometime and pub stomp, add my gamertag at The Deadly Sag, playing solo is boring.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:35:16 GMT

Yeah i would tend to agree but am hoping the casual/Beginner players will use it to find better balanced lobbys for themselves which is good as it will have a flow on effect for the players here by forcing the better players to play in balanced lobbys to find games.Our lobbys are so broken here its almost unbelievable.My thoughts is all.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Aug 2012 18:41:32 GMT

I predict leauge play to have the equivalant amount of players as to bare bones. Players hate competition for some reason.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:55:27 GMT

I hope your correct because theres only ever going to be a handful of people in the league play lists here.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:50:41 GMT

blb128 wrote:

This is why I refuse to play with randoms anymore. I havent rolled solo since WAW. COD is so much more enjoyable in a party.

Get ready for league play in BLOPS 2. Players will have to play the objective in that because you need to win to rank up.

I agree, much more fun with a handful of people

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:45:19 GMT

This is why I refuse to play with randoms anymore. I havent rolled solo since WAW. COD is so much more enjoyable in a party.

Get ready for league play in BLOPS 2. Players will have to play the objective in that because you need to win to rank up.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:38:48 GMT

Really! people play objective games to boost k/d? Who would have thunk it.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:37:39 GMT

Sorry to burst your bubble but not everyone that plays the game cares about winning all the time. W/L has less meaning to a very large portion of the players that play the game. Winning is not everything.

Even removing the stats will not change how some people play, nor will it cause more communication or more trying for the win just because you think it will. Some do just play for fun and their fun might be just to kill players and not care about the win or stats at all.

Re: People Playing for K/D in Objective Games Instead of Winning

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 23 Aug 2012 19:54:44 GMT

Am a big fan of objective modes am pushing 20 thousand caps in dom with a measly 1.57k/d and a spm 265 and w/l 85% last i checked, most people in Nz dont cap or play the objective and still only hold a 1k/d its gotten that bad down here when playing in partys you have to let the opposistion get 100 points ahead then make a come back or your winning the games by 180 points, solo's turned into a waste of time and ironically the only good games of dom that can be found is when im yellow bar playing against people in a different region