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Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 14:41:06 GMT

Getting bored of these Lag threads and Overpowered this and that threads. There's 2 Assassin OP threads on here at moment.

Everyone knows the game lags so no need to keep bringing it up everyday, and as for the overpowered threads their getting boring aswell now. It's only a game. supposed to play it for fun.

I use Blast Shield and Quickdraw in my classes till Assassin is available, (and I've got them to Pro), then I stick Assassin on most of my classes, and I usually have a class with Blind Eye and Assassin to shoot down air support.

Some things may be overpowered in this game so what, I won't stop using them to please everyone, and I don't expect other people to stop using anything they want to either.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 13:17:53 GMT

*sigh*

stopping power adds bullet damage. Assassin does not add damage to any weapons, hence, it is nothing like stopping power.

You're trying to argue that, because the perk disables certain things from seeing/hearing the enemy, that he is going to beast everyone - that's simply not the case.

Sometimes you're in a bad position and someone will come up behind you - that's not necessarily his having assassin. That could easily be circumstantial with you going one way and him going the other.

The majority of the time, it's a matter of who sees who first ON SCREEN and from there, who fires first and is more accurate.

Trying to call a perk that takes away the ability to see the enemy on an electronic implement when you still have your own two eyes overpowered is a cop-out to me. Not once have I said "OMG THAT GUY HAS ASSASSIN, WHAT A NOOB." Know why? Because that would be stupid.

Now, if assassin gave him a damage increase for his weapons and a health increase to his player, THEN I would have a problem.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 07:40:39 GMT

Assassin gives you 8 advantages immunity, UAV, AUAV, CUAV, Marksman, Thermal, Portable Radar, EMP, Heartbeat sensor

The next perk that gives several boost is Blind Eye which is 3, Immunity (sorta) to killstreaks, extra bullet damage, and faster lock-on

Everything else gives only a 2 advantage for using that perk.

Assassin is OP for having a massive advantage, bonus wise, compared to every other perk. Any person reading the perks would choose assassin cause obviously it gives you more than any other perk in the game. It needs a nerf not because of UAV Spam or people camping but because it just has way too much in one perk and it needs a re-balancing. There needs to be a perk for stopping UAV, easily i agree, they can get annoying, but Marksman is bad nothing shouldn't counter it. Thermal could finally be reliable, and the rest should probably fall under blind eye and sitrep immunity for obvious reasons.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:45:17 GMT

I'm sorry but where in my post did I say you were bad? I said stupid and reckeless, that doesn't mean bad, it means exactly what I said, stupid and reckless.

You immediately assume I am calling you bad, which is wrong. All I said is that you find Assasain OP because its benefits go directly with your playstyle. My guess is that you tend ot run around a lot, not checking corners and just go balls to the wall into an enemy spawn or a big choke point on the map. With Assasain you can get away with that. Their portables don't pick you up, and if their running a UAV it cant see you. You rush in with QD, Hardline or any other teir 2 perk and it doesn't give you the same element of surprise.

Simply because Assasain gives you the advantage or playing reckelessly, doesn't make it OP. All other teir two perks give you unique advantage. Assasain is the most used teir 2 perk because it fits with most peoples non methodical and reckeless game style. Hardline is awesome if you are good at racking up a few kills quickly, and moving on. It gives you killstreaks earlier, meaning your ariel domination starts earlier. Quickdraw helps those guys that need a bit of an edge in 1v1 gunfights. Overkill allows you to master every range in the game if you use the correct combination. Blast shield even helps if you play the objective alot and get spammed with flashs and stuns.

My point is that just because you find the specific advantage of Assasain easy to use for yourself, doesn't mean that its overpowered. Assasain fits your gamestyle. Does that make it OP? No. just means you fund a viable option for your teir 2 perk

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:54:32 GMT

yea i hear you but tier one perks you have to give up something for another fair play, tier 2 hmm all the perks in that tier give you nothing except assassin, tier 3 you can argue about that one im not a big fan of anything in that tier

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:42:28 GMT

Perks are all about giving certian advantages.

Blind Eye, Kills streaks can't see you

Sleight of Hand, Faster reloading, helps you out

Recon paints enemy targets.

Quickdraw fast ADS which can mean getting that kill quicker than your appointments.

Steady Aim, hip fire accuracy increased.

All these perks give what could be a battle winning advantage.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:32:33 GMT

nothing like stopping power huh?? well when you went against someone who had SP and you didnt who won that battle?? they did idiot if someone who has a silencer running assassin and you didnt and has a spyplane up and you have something like CUAV up but it dosent affect him and they run around shooting everyone then some how comes from behind and kills you without you having a clue tell me who has an advantage

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:12:04 GMT

So, a perk that makes someone hard to see with Killstreak Rewards and immune to EMP - but but still visible with your own two eyes on the screen - is overpowered? You will never convince me of this. This is NOTHING like stopping power, which gave increased damage.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:08:06 GMT

dude i know the point of assassin its to be stealthy from hiding from the uav but comaped to the other perks in the tier it overcomes them. I hardly use my map except when a uav is up but only to see if anything is behind me(campers waiting to kill me) then i just look away. Im only implying that it has to many advantages to it from basically countering anything Ghost wasent OP but people kept complaing it had immune to spy plane and aircraft, Assassin immunes you from everything except from aircraft. If i get a killstreak thats suppose to affect the whole team like EMP why is it that i worked hard to capture obj. and get kills so more than half the team is immune to it c'mon

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:20:21 GMT

Assassin is far from being over powered.

The additional effects off Assassin are minor at best. Blocks you from EMP, sure you can't still use kill streaks, you get the hub and mini map but no kill streaks. counters CUAV, so if you have a UAV in the sky it does not work, you see red dots but only when people shoot.

Thermal should have been with blind eye.

HB sensor makes sense as you are being stealthy it goes with the original kind of perk,

So really Assassin ain't that bad.

What is bad is hearing "enemy has UAV" every two seconds of the game.

Until UAV are not spammed like they are. I shall consider using quickdraw or hardlines as I do like these perks but Assassin is a good fit for me and my play style.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:36:52 GMT

RodCorn64 wrote:

(Not OP due to spawns and Killcam)
It boils down to this: for my playing style the benefits of assassin out weighs the benefits of Quick Draw or Hardline. I use the Stalker Pro Perk so I can move faster while ADS so Quick Draw isn't as important. As far as using Hardline you may or may not benefit much from your Kill Streak Rewards therefore for me Assassin helps me stay alive longer and get more kills. The people that mostly Run and Gun probably rather have Quick Draw or Hardline.

Good theory, I actually am the run and gun type.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:33:52 GMT

(Not OP due to spawns and Killcam)

It boils down to this: for my playing style the benefits of assassin out weighs the benefits of Quick Draw or Hardline. I use the Stalker Pro Perk so I can move faster while ADS so Quick Draw isn't as important. As far as using Hardline you may or may not benefit much from your Kill Streak Rewards therefore for me Assassin helps me stay alive longer and get more kills. The people that mostly Run and Gun probably rather have Quick Draw or Hardline.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:24:29 GMT

Good response ghamorra!

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 14:21:56 GMT

I don't got anything against assassin users, but hey it really is a overused perk so it must gain a lot of advantages.I use it only on some of my sniper classes for further classes I prefer quickdraw or hardline.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:52:26 GMT

I agree with there not being much competition. I wouldn't say there's no competition though. Hardline is a great perk and I would rank it above in usefulness

Some say that it doesn't offer you the same benefits as Assassin, those people just don't know how to play they game. If they did, they wouldn't have to be so concerned with protecting themselves. I can use Hardline just fine on any of my classes. I choose Assassin because because 1) I'm running Specialist so it really doesn't matter in the end, 2) Assassin helps extend those longer killstreaks even longer, or 3) When I'm sniping I don't have the peripherals to protect me

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:47:37 GMT

Its not about me not being able to beat an assassin user, its about me being tried of using assassin. The rivaling perks do not stack up in terms of usefulness against assassin, so your either stuck using assassin all the time or use another perk and put yourself at a unnecessary disadvantage. Blast shield and overkill are jokes, hardline is only useful with certain setups and quickdraw can be replaced by stalker strafing. Whether I have are hard time killing assassin users or not, it doesn't change the fact that it is OP and thereby decreases the game's perk variety.

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:39:08 GMT

AMEN

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:33:40 GMT

Sorry RLBL, but you're just driving yourself to early onset arthritis. These kids don't want to understand, they just want the game to be easy for them. R&G are very conceited in the way they think. While running around the map aimlessly they feel they should be able see all the enemy's locations so they can swoop in and get easy kills, post high K/Ds, and brag to their friends about their 1337 skills.

I've never, in the thousands of games played, complained about Assassin users. I know how to beat them using my God given senses. Others just don't have the brain power to do so

Re: assassin OP

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:28:11 GMT

As stated above, I think the problem with Assassin is not assassin itself, but people who think :"Yay a UAV is up!" and spend a bit too much time looking at the HUD and an assassin user walks up to them and slaps them in the face.

Think about this: If killing an assassin user was not a prblem before a UAV went up... why did they become an issue when a UAV went up? Yes you cannot see them with marksman, a radar, or HB sensor... but you know this, so you used your eyes... until a UAV was put up in the air...

Play more hardcore (where there is no HUD and half the time a UAV goes a CUAV goes up to counter it) and you will see how much of a crutch the HUD is, and how useless assassin can be.

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donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:25:08 GMT

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When u stop spamming UAV then i stop to use assassin..Thats IT!

When u stop spamming UAV then i stop to use assassin..
Thats IT!