Community: Message List - Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:56:09 GMT

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Wii does not have a Fourm page for BO2 yet. Is this just another case of 3Arc over looking us again or is it because if they made a forum page titled Wii then they would have to release it on the Wii whereas if they title is WiiU then everyone would know that it is coming to the WiiU.

Small details could be telling, based on that my vote is it will come to the WiiU and we will have a forum when they annouce that it is coming to the WiiU.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 19:25:06 GMT

At least Treyarch actually did create patches for wii for quite some time.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:49:53 GMT

I would rather have it on wiiu....a lot of people I know that play on ps3 and 360 said there going to get because it look cool...and I think black ops 2 will be a launch game!

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:49:20 GMT

I would rather have it on wiiu....a lot of people I know that play on ps3 and 360 said there going to get because it look cool...and I think black ops 2 will be a launch game!

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:07:38 GMT

Yep, maybe. I'm just sooooo confused by Nintendo's marketing at this juncture. Heck, maybe they are too? lol

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:26:42 GMT

that was a good video, I really hope it comes out for wiiu becuase it might mean that we can get dlc

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:09:51 GMT

Indeed, the chart does not show all of the finacial information at hand. However, it is worth noting that the 2012 fiscal year is the FIRST loss ever since Nintendo entered video game consoles, which should speak for itself. Even then, in a hypothetical situation, they can suffer the same/similar losses for another 10 years before being in any real danger. The 3DS is doing well, and I don't think the initial sales for the Wii U will be falling below the sales of the Wii they had this previous year.

What will be interesting to see for their 2013 fiscal year is how many combined Wii/Wii U units they will sell, since they will be including both consoles. There are some unknown factors still, such as the price of the console itself, but with the 3DS hitting its stride and the Wii U launch approaching, they aren't in any real danger.

@SysEng123 The way I see it, if the Wii U doesn't perform as well as they expect throughout its 5-6 year cycle, they will either have to develop their next console before the Wii U runs its course, or release an upgraded Wii U console.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:39:22 GMT

You forgot to mention that they lost $533 million dollars in 2011. Also your information is skewed becasue this only show actual profit from the sale of the consoles and not the additional revenue from software and networks. Microsoft intentionally sells their console at a loss knowing that the real money is on the software side of things.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:28:25 GMT

The only problem with that chart AZ is that it doesn't show what has happened since. Everyone knows that Nintendo is bleeding money right now and are in the red for this fiscal year. But they do have a TON of cash from Wii Sales. If Wii U fails, I do believe Nintendo has enough cash to make one more console. The question is...will they? Or will they go the way of Sega and simply be a gamemaker and make their lineup for the PS360 or the next generation?

I'm sorry, but IMHO Nintendo missed one important aspect. The novelty of the Wii has worn off and the market that made the Wii so successful will NOT buy the Wii U. Remember, Wii U sales were not driven by gamers, but by non-gamers (it was a novelty luxury item for most households). That market has evaporated in this economy. The only people who will be spending money on "games" are those that are "gamers". Not soccer moms for wii fit, or elderly couples who want wii bowling, etc... That's the mistake I think they made with this console. But who knows?

The gamepad is a fatal mistake. The people who use their phones/tablets to play video games (who nintendo themselves said they are targeting and trying to compete with Apple/Android..a.k.a casual gamers) do that because they can take those games anywhere (on the subway, airplane, etc...). I don't think the gamepad will work at 32,0000 feet.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 12:50:43 GMT

I would love a wiiU release Im buying day one i cant wait to see the features and use the new turtle beach headphones for wiiU

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:45:13 GMT

http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_3/ZUJHD.png

This chart alone disproves any point about Nintendo being in financial jeopardy.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:00:01 GMT

@Nintendon't, I like how you say that BO2 wil be a last gen game on a next gen console. This simply isn't a fact. WiiU is not exactly a next gen console, only a next gen console in the Nintendo series. There is nothing that cutting edge about it, it has roughly the same power as the XBox/PS3 the only thing new is the "iPad" controller thing which if I read the specs right isn't very cutting edge technology. It is a clunky 1 1/2" think by 8" x 12". it would be like playing a game with a encyclopedia (remember those things). With all the thin tablets out on the market why would you make one that is so thick and clumsy? To save money would be my best guess. So we are getting 4 year old hardware in a "next gen" console so that Nintendo can make sure there is a profit on every console. They haven't figured it out, there is more money selling games then there could ever be selling consoles, if the games have good support. Instead they are so focused on making their money selling consoles with very little software support. Look at the exodus of the hardcore gamer to the hardcore consoles. In Nintendo's eyes games like Mario, Zelda, and Wii Resort are hardcore games, they aren't they are kids games that adult pickup now and then when their kids are playing or are made for old school gamers who like the nostaglia. The WiiU is going to be the final nail in the coffin of Nintendo and after the real companies put out true "next gen" consoles then you will see the complete fall of Nintendo.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:56:44 GMT

Why did you forget about the wizard polar bears from hawaii trained in the ways of the ninja? It's a crucial part of their gameplay dontcha know?

And to be honest I'd be surprised if the game came out in either Nintendo console...

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 04:58:49 GMT

Lol, well I guess we just have to wait and see.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 03:21:22 GMT

Nope, not yet.

Turns out that CoD 10 (Zombie Warfare) will be a joint project between IW and Treyarch. It will have Makarov coming back as a zombie leading Commie Zombies. The four stars will be Price, resurrected-as-a-human Soap, Nikolai, and Frost.

That would actually be a sweet game

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:57:10 GMT

Why are you guys talking about MW4 and the next IW game.

Aren't the MW3 series done and IW has been kicked out to the curb?

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:33:00 GMT

I would in that hypothetical situation, but I don't see that coming.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:30:44 GMT

Let's say by some miracle they figure out how to stop hacks with a hypothetical Wii version of Black Ops 2. Would you buy it then?

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:28:12 GMT

Less copies does mean less money, but there is also COD Elite and DLC to consider as well. When you factor that into the Wii U, you already have an advantage to release BLOPS 2 on the Wii U over the Wii. Furthermore, selling BLOPS 2 on the Wii won't be huge. It will most likely be the lowest selling COD title on the Wii, and weeks after launch, it isn't going to pick up. It can be a "sleeper hit" title on the Wii U, but there is next to no chance of that happening on the Wii.

As it stands right now, I'm not convinced to purchase BLOPS 2. If it looks good in the next few months, I might give it a chance on the Wii U, but no chance if it only comes out on the Wii.

Re: Black Ops 2: Advantages/Disadvantages of Wii/Wii U Release

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 07 Jun 2012 02:24:46 GMT

True. I actually would like it to be on the Wii U, but I still think it'll be ported to the Wii in the end.

Best course of events? Them porting it to both consoles to give people a choice.