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Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 04 Jun 2012 14:13:15 GMT

you tell us Joshdd13 why?

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 04 Jun 2012 03:18:02 GMT

To be honest I'm a player who prefers the win over my KD but at the same time I still want my KD to be positive and it usually is most of the time. But since I play solo all the time in HC Domination, I get stuck with different players.

Majority of the time I get stuck with shite players who don't want to play to win, instead they try to get kills but because they are shite, they go negative. So when I'm on that type of team and know we won't win even though I know I can get a good amount of kills, I'll leave.

Now when I'm on a team that plays to win and we are playing a team that plays for kills, then my team will kill wh@re and be highly positive all the time while the other team goes negative.

But if my team and the other team plays to win that's when thoughts of my KD go out the window and I will go just slightly negative to win. It's not too often that my KD goes negative but when it does it's only by 2-3.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:45:23 GMT

Depends on gametype.

In TDM, you have no control over your teammates if you're playing solo. You can having the best match of your life but your teammates are all going negative which ends up losing the match despite your efforts.

In objective gametypes, it is possible to become the "one man army" player if you're playing solo meaning that you can carry all teammates and still win.

I've won a number of tight Dom games with playing against complete newbies which makes me feel good. I know my team aren't the strongest but by assisting them in taking down air support & holding down positions, I can end up with a decent game.

My W/L is more important in objective gametypes. My K/D is important in TDM.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:20:44 GMT

ultimately, i go for the win. unfortunately, i play 100% of my games with randoms, so i take what i can get. i always play the objective, and don't mind going negative to cap a flag. most of the time i don't go negative, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. sometimes i'll run into an area, just to ferret out where the campers are, it may take a few deaths, but ultimately, it's more or less just gathering intelligence...

i also think there is a place for some people to hang out and camp at our flag to defend it. that is also playing the objective.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 04 Jun 2012 01:13:02 GMT

My KD is 0.759 but my WL is 2.00 why?

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:46:30 GMT

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Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:51:39 GMT

Yeah, I look at the lobby leaderboard if I get the chance. Anyone with fewer than 1 cap per match I dont want to play with. Its not hard to do some quick mental arithmetic and spot who is likely to be good in a domination match.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 20:56:42 GMT

Dom cracks me up sometimes, played against a guy ranked 332 in dom last night he had triple my kills on the leaderboards but i have more caps. Ended up beating him 200 to 28 on Seatown he was hiding the whole time protecting his kdr.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 14:59:23 GMT

I usually play Domination and go for the win no matter what. The "kill wh0res" that play Domination and don't bother to help capture or even defend but either push the spawn too far or camp far from any flags,piss me off to no end. I can usually look at someone's stats and tell a lot. The really high KDR guys usually have a low W/L because they rage quit when getting owned but like to brag about their KDR only....

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:16:38 GMT

The win always comes first for me. Since I play TDM 99% of the time now, a good KD is the best way to get the win. I just came off of a 108 game win streak which was mix of solo and with my clan.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 13:00:25 GMT

Listen, kd in this game is not even close to being accurate. People jump out of so many games because of the lag and hit detection. i probably play in 2 out of 10 games. And also the people that are host they usually leave to. because this game is so broken its actually sad. And just keeps getting worse.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 12:36:51 GMT

LOL...I love to remind everyone. I love trolling. But again just trying to make my points and show I do how I preach

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 09:24:54 GMT

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Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 01:26:17 GMT

good topic but really depends do you play for stats or do you play to win bad KD but good win percentage or great kd and low wins i play for the objective

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 02 Jun 2012 00:48:02 GMT

MW3 does not have my favorite stat, that in my opinion shows a players skill more then any other individual stat. BLOPs had and has a stat on elite that shows TOP 3 finishes. For example I played 4000 games in BLOPS and finished top 3 3000 times.

But In my opinion there is not 1 stat that really shows a players skill. You have to look at the bigger picture. What game types they play, do they have good win/loss, good KD, good SPM.

my KD is 1.7 - win/loss 85% - and spm 300

Me personally I think SPM is a better measure of a players skill then KD or win/loss. Anyone can play on a 6 man team and get a good win/loss. Anyone can play DOM and sit in corner and kill whore not being involved in the actual game, not helping his team. However its hard to have a good SPM unless your a good player. Sure anyone can just run blindly into the flags and cap etc. But without skill you can not do it regularly.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:47:14 GMT

I care about winning that's all that matters to me.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:39:49 GMT

I care more about my win loss than I do my KD for MW3. I go for objective and will sacrafice my kd for a win.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:01:46 GMT

Domination player here and to me it is winning first KDR second, here is my .02

I have a 70% win ratio 2601-1132 1.12 KDR

1: It is funny hearing KDR stat freaks talk smack about how they "owned" me are after we just beat them. Sure I may have gone 25-30 but I outscored you by 1500 points because I capped the flag multiple times

2: However win ratio is not always an accurate judge because those that play in a good party should win most games.

Here is what my domination stats look like

Rank 10,571, SPM 224, KDR 1.14. Caps 9,393. Defends 4,668. Kills 39,000+, matches 2,250

Many would look at my KDR of 1.12 and say I am terrible, but I am that guy you want on your team because I will do what it takes to win the game.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:08:44 GMT

Win/loss is up in the air with me because if you run with random players like i do you can't help who they put you with. Sometimes you get good players and other times you get crappy players. Like people that sit back and kill whore during objective matches while you try to win.

KDR shows you what they will give you each match win, loose, or draw.

Then you have to see what modes they play the most. objective mode players KDR will always be higher then TDM and HCTDM because you don't know where the enemy will be or has to go to find them.

Also don't leave out accuracy. High accuracy + low KDR = sniper/camper player. Low accuracy + high KDR = spray and pray player.

Re: On KD Vs Win-Loss

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 01 Jun 2012 19:52:59 GMT

I don't think stats matter too much at all, honestly. I play SnD mostly (95% of the time) and like to have fun with it. If we (my clan) decide we want to goof off, I'll knife/riot. If we go tryhard, we very rarely lose. If I would have known about SnD being so fun before March-ish when we started playing, my WL would probably be really good considering all the dropped games and lagouts.

It's really funny when people bring up KD or WL after LOSING a game. So many times I've heard that we're trash when our stats aren't beastly. If I played specifically for stats, I'd have good stats, but with my lagfest I go through, I don't even care anymore. I play to 1) win games, 2) have fun and 3) make someone rage quit.