Community: Message List - Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:06:19 GMT

I manage to stay in my spawn and pull better stats than most of the spawn trappers

I defend (camp) our flag and when I do it against a clan trying to spawn trap they get so butthurt over it and start calling me a camper like I'm not playing the objective. It's not like our flag says defend or anything LOL

Funny thing is, these guys call me a camper but what they're trying to do is spawn trap which is camping the enemy spawn. Funny how that works eh?

Any time a spawn trapper has been banned was usually because of some sort of boosting. Remember the Havana Demolition guys in BO? They were only reset because it was proven that there was a guy on the other team helping them out lol

But yeah, CTF was so much better in BO. Yet again so was just about everything else.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:56:58 GMT

Ah, I did not notice that he had split screeners on the other team. Couldn't tell anything really b/c of the horrible quality.

I just remember how in BO I played tons and tons of HC CTF and the maps were big enough to actually get plenty of kills and play the objective. This game.... they grab the flag 5 seconds later its capped. However, you can't stay in your spawn and defend b/c people spawn trap you...my solution was to play KC.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:53:25 GMT

There will never be a ban for Hardhat shuffle CTF clans.

I've reported it tons and tons of times with no results. The only reason this guy got banned and reset is because it was proven to BanCandy that he and his party were using split screen alt accounts on the other team which qualifies as boosting.

I'm a CTF regular and I can't tell you how many times a day I run into clans spawn trapping on Hardhat or clans just trapping on any map lol

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:45:52 GMT

This is awesome, guys have been begging me to spawn trap on Hardhat CTF and I keep saying now because it will eventually get out of hand and people will be banned and I don't want that....... and there it is a ban for spawn trapping ROFL.

I must admit this has made me smile to see that these people are getting bans.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:45:11 GMT

This is a dumb comparison because in TDM you have no way to know exactly where the enemy will spawn.

In Sabotage, CTF and old Demolition you know EXACTLY where the enemy will spawn. In TDM it was dumb luck. In Sabotage it was planned with intent to boost your stats.

Lets not forget that you use split screen accounts and have them join your game to set up a trap even easier.

How you manage to compare TDMs spawn system to Sabos is beyond me.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 19:27:01 GMT

So if I spawned in front of you in TDM you won't shoot because you feel you are exploiting the game? You will just let me kill you? No right.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 18:08:00 GMT

deucedouglas wrote:

Obviously. Because you've clearly displayed an impeccable ability to kill defenseless targets.

So shooting people in the back also takes no ability?

Just making sure you are going to put both things in the same category

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:54:50 GMT

its not very hard to put in a spawn in the game.... i seen at least four other corners they could have spawned in that were close, just goes to show how crapy they put this game together

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:35:22 GMT

adw1983 wrote:

Why do they get reset for playing the game the way it was designed?

Because what happen in the video is not how the game is meant to be played. It is exploiting the spawn system. Your opinion does not matter as IW and Treyarch both see this as exploiting and that is all that matters.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:31:11 GMT

I have shot about 500 players within 2 seconds of them spawning.

How is that cheating?
WHEN enemies spawn in your sight, that is NOT YOUR FAULT.

IF you can make the game spawn enemies in front of you, the GAME needs to be fixed -- or the spawns.

The maps are too small, and the spawns (apart from the predictability of them) are too random (when everyone is running around).

10 easy fixes:

1: Add spawns and make them smarter

2: Spawn invulnerability for 2 seconds AND fix the spawns; Allow people to spawn on explosives with their invulnerability.

3: Think about spawning when making the maps and think about direction when making the maps

4: A parachute-in deathstreak (Should happen on a tactical insertion anyway!)
5: A select your spawn deathstreak (Infiltration)

6: DON'T FREAKING COUNT KILLS OR TRACK K:D-ratio IN OBJECTIVE GAME MODES FOR GOD'S SAKE! AND WHY ARE YOU EVEN DOING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE?! AAAAAARGH! IT... MAKES... NO... SENSE!
In domination, for instance, count CAPTURES, DEFENDS, WINS and LOSSES.
If it for some reasons make the devs happy to track kills and deaths in objective game modes, track them silent.
UNLESS a game has FINITE LIVES, LIVES is a RESOURCE you can throw away to win the game.
I have gone 30-45 and won against enemies going 50-15.
That is a major problem. Tracking KD in objective game modes FORCE statw... stat-interested people(...) to play like female dogs.

...
Where was I?
Ways to fix spawning 7:

WHEN someone has died within 2 seconds after spawning on one spawn TWICE, FORCE them to spawn elsewhere, and if NO spawn exists where they have not spawned and died, DO NOT spawn them for 10 seconds and spawn them ALL in the same randomly selected arc of spawns.

8: Let players view their spawn 2 seconds before spawning, and let them delay their spawn if they want to by holding a button.
They should not see enemies anyway now, should they?

9: Add a "secret" juggernaut deathstreak on 13 deaths without kills, support juggernaut with a shield, which also will help deter and reveal boosters in free for all.

10: Phantom spawns: Put a player in the spawn 2 seconds before he is able to move, invisible and "not there", allowing him to aim in on the campers aiming for him, and give him a 0.5 second invulnerability upon spawning.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 17:02:43 GMT

Why do they get reset for playing the game the way it was designed?

The DEVELOPERS failed to create enough space for spawns.

IF maps were larger, they could have had spawns in buildings on the sides.

Don't ban people for killing people as they spawn -- ALL of us have seen people spawning.

FIX THE SPAWNS!
MAKE BETTER MAPS!

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 16:12:21 GMT

"y'all who talking trash will get destroyed if u ever run to me in tdm or any other game type"

Then put up your gamertag, or shut up.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:14:39 GMT

Lulz, urz iz HAXORZ!!

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:52:33 GMT

To be fair, I don't think this is cheating.

Spawn trapping is for no life goobers but it's the developers that allow this to happen. why can't they fix it? They've made HUNDRENS OF MILLIONS of profit on this game. I'm sure with that kind of resources they could do just about anything. But instead they employ a few people to hand out resets? What does that do to solve the problem?

answer: zero

so, we have to deal with d-bags like this guy. Best way to deal with it? Leave the game in-session.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:26:31 GMT

It is fair since you cheated dude .. Don't wanna get reset, DON"T CHEAT !! Of course, next time, they will just ban you .. Remember that ..

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 14:12:19 GMT

I don't think you should of been banned for this, its IW's fault there spawns are so fuckin shitty, they need to sort it out.

I don't agree with playing like that though anyone who plays like that needs a dry slap and should never play it again but for IW to ban someone because they don't wanna fix such a simple problem is out of order.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:57:10 GMT

People who do this are despicable, but what do you expect, honestly? If I wound up in the OP's situation, I'm not just going to walk away and give the enemy a chance. I would stay there. Of course, you hardly just walk in a situation like that. Just my opinion.

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:52:59 GMT

Why in gods name would anyone stay in this game?

I'd take exactly three or four deaths like this in a row and I'd hit the eject button.

Where is the fun in that... for anyone?

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:02:18 GMT

i run blind eye, assasin , dead silence all pro

striker with range and kimbo fmg's

practically untouchable.

am i gonna get banned for exploiting are they considered in the game so i can use them ?

Re: Fix the spawns I go 201-1 197 killstreak

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 21 Apr 2012 07:37:14 GMT

THAT was his name! I've been trying to remember for the longest time. Thanks for that!

Anyway, the one thing I noticed about Razor was that he killed people faster than anyone I had ever seen. As in, his hits ALWAYS connected beautifully so I attribute a decent chunk of his stats to his connection. However, he is a GOOD player lol

Anyway, keeping a KD that high legitimately is possible but insanely rare. Most who keep stats that high are up to something fishy.