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    <title>Community: Message List - Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:52:09 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205573122?tstart=0#205573122</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8927748c-3c73-4082-9a11-b84544cbced6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cheating definitely goes on and I'm having the same problem with lag.&amp;#160; Somehow magically when the clan op starts, it seems that I can't find a room that doesn't have a handful of 1 and 2 bars slowing everything down.&amp;#160; And just as magically when the op ends, the lag just goes away.&amp;#160; If there was a way to separate out these lagswitchers into a lobby just for them, I would love it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8927748c-3c73-4082-9a11-b84544cbced6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:52:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205573122?tstart=0#205573122</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T16:52:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572923?tstart=0#205572923</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:216c7a0b-c8fb-4b64-86d8-150b50b29110] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I still have my Xbox set up for alpha and I remember one guy who had a mod controller (I could tell be the code) and I accused him. He told me that I couldn't possibly know that he had a modded controller as his had stealth and was undetectable. Idiot!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:216c7a0b-c8fb-4b64-86d8-150b50b29110] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:29:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572923?tstart=0#205572923</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T15:29:36Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572816?tstart=0#205572816</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7005f1e8-bac3-4ea5-8f39-a9b1fc88dc1a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Heard a guy say last night they had a zombie mode on it. would auto headshot a zombie. Why would people want to use this? They can win just about every gun fight. And then they tell you how good of a player they are and how garbage you are. I dont know how people can use something like that and be ok with it. My self I left the room and that person is no longer on my friends list. I hold myself to a higher standard and have pride in knowing that I play a fair game. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7005f1e8-bac3-4ea5-8f39-a9b1fc88dc1a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:23:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572816?tstart=0#205572816</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T15:23:11Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572955?tstart=0#205572955</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:15fee3b0-a2fb-4813-8ed7-013ebef6db66] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I ahve seen a tons of modded controllers in games.&amp;#160; Came across one last nite, he was spamming one of the sniper rifles.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:15fee3b0-a2fb-4813-8ed7-013ebef6db66] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:18:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572955?tstart=0#205572955</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T15:18:49Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572920?tstart=0#205572920</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4acf2877-a7a3-44ee-a347-fe26c8da6851] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Don't get me started. I was curious about modded controllers and found out that you can get ones that:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Auto drop shot&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Auto aim&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Auto quick scope&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Auto hold breath&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rapid fire&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2, 3, 4 shot burst fire&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Full auto fire for single and 3 shot&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Unlimited lightweight&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I couldn't believe it. Why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And they cost $300&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4acf2877-a7a3-44ee-a347-fe26c8da6851] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:14:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572920?tstart=0#205572920</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T15:14:33Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572814?tstart=0#205572814</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0a4151bf-ffbb-48ff-9698-382c65a1dafb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dont forget the people that use the mod controllers. That is a cheat in its self. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0a4151bf-ffbb-48ff-9698-382c65a1dafb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:09:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572814?tstart=0#205572814</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T15:09:14Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572774?tstart=0#205572774</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d73df6ab-fb1e-4a0c-aa7d-0edc7e6ec30f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yeah 65, I was thinking of tdm.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've seen solo clan people just run around collecting tags, even stealing them from non clan members ( who don't really care as they still get the points).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I just thought that the idea of having clans was to have clans compete, not to see who can get the highest solo score, surely that's why we have lone wolf ops?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm not against it, I just find it hard to compete against, especially when you have less than 6 premium members.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d73df6ab-fb1e-4a0c-aa7d-0edc7e6ec30f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:25:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572774?tstart=0#205572774</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T13:25:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572514?tstart=0#205572514</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:177975f9-f742-4db0-96ad-da102e741869] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You make an interesting point although I do not understand how you get your numbers. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Yes if a clan plays in a team the most they can get is 65 (not 75). So individually on average they can get 11 (10.x) tags per game.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; If they go solo they have a &lt;span style="text-decoration: underline;"&gt;chance&lt;/span&gt; to collect more tags per game each (especially if they end up on a team of people who are not in a clan, therefore likely not to go out and collect tags - because so many people still try to camp, bait and lose)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If they manage to get 11 tags or more each, yeah the clan will do better...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:177975f9-f742-4db0-96ad-da102e741869] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:13:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572514?tstart=0#205572514</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T12:13:55Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572450?tstart=0#205572450</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:59c9449c-4717-4a75-8a77-8fb28ce1ba8d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I go solo for my clan. I'll do what ever it takes to get gold, except boosting. I enjoy clan ops. Maybe i should enter some lone wolfs...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:59c9449c-4717-4a75-8a77-8fb28ce1ba8d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:45:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205572450?tstart=0#205572450</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T10:45:19Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572492?tstart=0#205572492</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8d77f0bc-c2ac-4708-aaec-0cd2b01075eb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Constant boosting...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But the worst thing is clan members playing separately and not in a clan, which, although is not cheating, defeats the point of having clans.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Eg. If a clan plays kill confirmed as a team of 6, the most confirms they can get is 75. However, if they play separately and just collect tags then they can get 20-30 tags each which is 120-180 per game as opposed to 75.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think that instead of taking the top 6 scores, that the score should be an average of all the clan members who participated. This would help eliminate boosting as each member would have to boost, and would make it fairer on clans who only have one or two members.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8d77f0bc-c2ac-4708-aaec-0cd2b01075eb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:42:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-20T09:42:39Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572308?tstart=0#205572308</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e53838d3-9657-471c-aab8-96acad1696b3] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;is that the reason why i die al the time :O&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e53838d3-9657-471c-aab8-96acad1696b3] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:24:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-20T09:24:31Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572307?tstart=0#205572307</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:06ca4184-afed-4229-89f4-0fe056ed05ca] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;As jwaller123 said. Also this game has the most inconsistent online connection EVER that is just ridiculous added with the host disadvantage problems this game is just a joke now. Then there is the issue that as s#itty as the connection is for this game its 3 times worse during clan ops. I wish I had not wasted money on Mw3 and Elite, Its the worst thing that I have ever spent good money on.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:06ca4184-afed-4229-89f4-0fe056ed05ca] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:17:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-20T09:17:32Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572344?tstart=0#205572344</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6f7fbadd-8d52-4abd-8dc2-c3cc936b4e6f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;There has been cheating in clan AND lone wolf ops since they started. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6f7fbadd-8d52-4abd-8dc2-c3cc936b4e6f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:41:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-20T07:41:57Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Ok so is there really cheating going on in clan ops??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205572370?tstart=0#205572370</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:81e1dc0d-7a81-49c6-be28-c678dbcf8805] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ok i know its kinda hard to cheat or hack on ps3 but im starting to think that there is serious cheating going on in clan ops, why? ill tell you why, because when i play on a regular basis i do great, ok i have some bad games like everbody but still i dont go negative very often BUT everydamn time i do clan ops i cant do sh*t and its not only me its my entire clan, well not all of em but a bunch of them are having difficultys to do the work, sometimes we do bad like we never did so we are truly starting to think that some sh*t is going on is clan ops...seriously.....whats your thoughts on that??&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:81e1dc0d-7a81-49c6-be28-c678dbcf8805] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:18:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-20T07:18:41Z</dc:date>
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