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    <title>Community: Message List - Defense or Camping</title>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:37:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205562488?tstart=0#205562488</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7d2337af-c524-4007-a410-a460876c5ea3] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;i got a message yesterday from someone. i dont think i have ever heard as many curse words in a short amount of time in my life, not even on that episode of southpark.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;we had the flag most of the match on team defender and when we did i sat away from the flag carrier in the corner protecting him from the other side. but apparently its camping to protect someone from anywere that isnt right on top of them. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;one thing i would say is that why do people go back to try and kill the camper and die again and again trying to do the same thing. the amount of times ive seen this done baffles me &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7d2337af-c524-4007-a410-a460876c5ea3] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 09:37:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205562488?tstart=0#205562488</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-16T09:37:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205562387?tstart=0#205562387</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:f82f70fe-a6fb-403b-af54-9fbae25dfdc5] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your opinions guy, my mind is clear now about camping&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Holding an objective=defense&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rest is camping.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not hard is it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As gallp13 said&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:f82f70fe-a6fb-403b-af54-9fbae25dfdc5] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 08:24:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205562387?tstart=0#205562387</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-16T08:24:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205560486?tstart=0#205560486</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3ffe5a88-b5ca-44b1-81bf-81513ed130f9] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;On Resistance, I'm guilty of holding the route between A and C or A and B - depending where I am and what flags we have.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3ffe5a88-b5ca-44b1-81bf-81513ed130f9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 15:12:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205560486?tstart=0#205560486</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-15T15:12:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558962?tstart=0#205558962</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6efef367-3670-4439-8142-9138c24f4e6e] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;For some reason I play like this on two maps only. On Resistance I regard C as mine, once I cap it, no ones getting it off me. On Mission I also love holding down A singlehandedly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Anyone else take ownership of certain flags on certain maps?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6efef367-3670-4439-8142-9138c24f4e6e] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:49:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558962?tstart=0#205558962</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T18:49:32Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558858?tstart=0#205558858</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:cd5adc64-007e-486f-8257-dd97c72b2897] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;if you were in my game and at the end it shows you with 1 cap and 2-3 defends, and we lose, then im going to be pretty pissed&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:cd5adc64-007e-486f-8257-dd97c72b2897] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:36:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558858?tstart=0#205558858</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T17:36:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558676?tstart=0#205558676</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ec90eca2-cbcb-4b1c-bcc4-41dd9e0a8983] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you're near an objective and helping your team, it's defense plain and simple. Hopefully you get enough people in range of the flag to get a score higher than 50xyour kills. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you're nowhere near your flag or if you're all defending a flag when you need help capping something else, then it's camping.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ec90eca2-cbcb-4b1c-bcc4-41dd9e0a8983] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:17:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558676?tstart=0#205558676</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T16:17:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558556?tstart=0#205558556</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ebcd777c-db54-480a-9464-4e85782c600f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Cap A leave one to hold. Cap B team holds and harries opposition at flanks and C up to but not flipping spawn=Dom win.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sure A def is bored but not camping and contributes to win.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ebcd777c-db54-480a-9464-4e85782c600f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:32:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558556?tstart=0#205558556</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T14:32:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558516?tstart=0#205558516</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:08290d08-00c0-455d-b020-a79092350c05] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your defending the flag and also holding&amp;#160; your spawn.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:08290d08-00c0-455d-b020-a79092350c05] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:23:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-14T14:23:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558527?tstart=0#205558527</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e386cd66-6e51-4fc4-baea-6321e3f5f7cb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Go Buckeyes!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e386cd66-6e51-4fc4-baea-6321e3f5f7cb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:02:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558527?tstart=0#205558527</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T14:02:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558524?tstart=0#205558524</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:426d2198-b88f-4996-a2d9-ecd3e6a811a5] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;No it is playingh strategically and with your team. He is doing an important role in teamwork. &lt;br/&gt;The other 5 players can go cap the flags, while he's making sure that they don't get triple capped or switch the spawns. It's defense. If his teammates weren't capping flags--and they were losing by a ton--- and he doesn't go to cap anything-- then yes, that's camping, and camping with an excuse. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:426d2198-b88f-4996-a2d9-ecd3e6a811a5] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558524?tstart=0#205558524</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T14:02:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558424?tstart=0#205558424</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d6aab3f7-0226-481b-aaa4-d5fc7a1177c6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;These camping threads are getting old. If you only hold one flag you are camping. You need 2 flags to win.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d6aab3f7-0226-481b-aaa4-d5fc7a1177c6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:18:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558424?tstart=0#205558424</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T13:18:11Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558410?tstart=0#205558410</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0c09baa2-49e9-47a6-ac96-8bcf41f80ef6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;if all the action the at b and c and sitting back watching a and you're only picking up the odd kill while your team has pushed the others back c, you would be better pushing up and helping with B. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I didn't say he wasn't helping but you should know if you only see the odd guy every minute you know that where you are might not be the best place. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Plus there's nothing wrong with camping, but watching an idol flag is a waste when you could be supporting your team at the other flag.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0c09baa2-49e9-47a6-ac96-8bcf41f80ef6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:09:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558410?tstart=0#205558410</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T13:09:16Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 1 month ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558291?tstart=0#205558291</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:dd33fa77-a1fc-4a04-8aee-664104602f49] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You're kidding right. If the other team can't cap the flag you are defending then that's their problem. It's an objective based game, not TDM. Hiding near the flag to watch over it is fine. Same goes for search when you are defending the bombs. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would only class it as camping if you are sat in the middle of nothing, no where near the objective waiting for people to run past. That's camping, just like gallp13 said.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:dd33fa77-a1fc-4a04-8aee-664104602f49] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:36:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558291?tstart=0#205558291</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T12:36:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558357?tstart=0#205558357</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d798ad8c-1560-4578-a284-2ffba04cbe54] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;if youor defending a flag your not camp , mostly liekly if your leave your flagg a random enemy will spawn near there and capp it .&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d798ad8c-1560-4578-a284-2ffba04cbe54] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:22:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558357?tstart=0#205558357</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T12:22:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558133?tstart=0#205558133</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2874e8a3-ef87-48bc-87f5-77421e10e4f8] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you're going 30 seconds staying in the same spot without a kill, you're camping. That's my rule-of-thumb (not to say I haven't camped, but I try to keep myself active). &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2874e8a3-ef87-48bc-87f5-77421e10e4f8] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 12:18:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558133?tstart=0#205558133</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T12:18:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558318?tstart=0#205558318</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4834262a-97f0-4344-a4ea-e831b89b7aa6] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Holding an objective=defense&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rest is camping.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Not hard is it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4834262a-97f0-4344-a4ea-e831b89b7aa6] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:27:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205558318?tstart=0#205558318</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-14T11:27:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558330?tstart=0#205558330</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ceeaa993-61c3-4778-b679-3241e3f858fc] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;depends on what happening else where. if your team is wining and the other simply can't beat them then yes you're camping, but if flags are being flipped all the time and you're getting your fair share of kills then you're defending&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ceeaa993-61c3-4778-b679-3241e3f858fc] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:21:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-14T11:21:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Defense or Camping</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205558103?tstart=0#205558103</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e6298898-9c33-465b-a5f0-22062c0f8656] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hey Guys.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i want to raise a point here our clan is iCod and most of the time we play Domination, the question i want to ask here i usually dont go for capturing flags for example if our team captured A i will sit around it and defend it with my other team mate, While the other team mates will go for other flags. we usally wins with this strategy and my KD is 1.60 is this camping or called Defense because lots of people doing this in Domination.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e6298898-9c33-465b-a5f0-22062c0f8656] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 11:16:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
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      <dc:date>2012-04-14T11:16:26Z</dc:date>
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