Community: Message List - There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:12:27 GMT

You're an ignorant shite. You can't claim everyone commenting here wants the game to be as easy as possible. Tactics and being skilled are crucial to any game. Tiny maps with ridiculous spawn systems so that if you're team is doing badly you're trapped for 5 minutes of crappy unfair random displeasure is not.

Some people believe fairness is a starting point and the match/opposition should be the challenge, not the game itself.

Try to get over your one-dimensional take on "fairness" and understand this discussive thread was about "why" and not "complain".

If you even think about it for a minute, the point is not making the game easier as you seem to think anyone who has posted here means. The game is fair to the point that there's a 50% chance to which side anyone spawns on at the start, it's just that some maps and certain times give you no chance - and that's cos MW3 is terrible.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 07:20:07 GMT

Get over my self?? Lol. Im just saying you want it turned on easy.. I play games on Expert. All these people want the game to be easy as possible. And you know im telling the truth. So 10 Plus points to YOU for Trolling me. Im just stating my opinion. No need to bash me. . Even tho im bashing you for being horrible.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 04:12:49 GMT

Sabotage on Dome is/was (I've since given up on it because it was so bad) ridiculous. The team spawning in the dome spawn with their back to a corner but they are far enough forward that an enemy can sit behind them and knife anyone who spawns in...watched a guy get a knife moab because of that...

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:53:20 GMT

10pts for trolling. It's a legit discussion, get the fvck over yourself asshat

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:46:30 GMT

Are you guys really that mad about maps being unfair? WOW. Its all about fairness aint it. Get the hell over it. Alot of maps should be unfair to one side so theres tactics involved. But all of these COD Fan Boys has no clue about tactics. Any one every play Socom 2. Yea pretty much Half the maps were at disadvantages to one side. And when you were on that side and you won, you would feel like you accomplished something. All this CoD **** is. Lets Be fair lets just all use one gun. NO SNIPERS OMG SNIPERS. This Perk That Perk. All you people that complain want it Easy. IT SHOULD BE EASY!!! ****!

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 01:00:42 GMT

Arkaden and village are the most unbalanced maps in Domination. If you start at C in Arkaden or in the caves in village,you are pretty much going to lose.

I hate how arkaden is so open and high on one side. The design totally sucks.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:31:47 GMT

TDM Arkaden is the most unbalanced of the TDM scenarios. Even adjusting classes to suit the large outside spawn has way more options, can be set up to cover all other spawn entry points so one team is moving and the other is still and also offers a serious sky-view advantage with regards to anti-air fire or packages/drops.

This is not the only unfair map for TDM either.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 23:04:40 GMT

Gotta agree about village if you spawn the right side you get your ghillie suit which is integral when you intend to be moving within the enemys area spawn on the wrong side and you get a red cap.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:37:57 GMT

http://www.callofduty.com/message/205501776#205501776

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:35:08 GMT

You should see Black Box in Demolition. If you go into overtime, one team spawns quite literally 10 metres away from the bomb site. Its over 1 wall.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:24:14 GMT

totally agree. i wish the maps were mirror images of each other on both sides. like THQ did for Space Marine.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:45:01 GMT

I've been asking for Dome to get remodeled since the begining. Any team with half a brain can spawn trap you in 30sec. I've gone to theater and timed it myself on many occassions

For anyone interested on how to do it:

1)Equip Recon
2)Throw all Lethal and Tac grenades off the start.

That's how easy it is

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:23:17 GMT

lol yah, same here.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:18:49 GMT

I mostly play Kill Confirmed, and 2 maps for that game mode stand out as having awful starting spawns that give the enemy a distinct advantage.

Village- The desired spawn for Domination (closest to C and B) absolutely screws you over from the start for Kill Confirmed. Its bascially a spawn trap if the team spawning at A has any clue. A few guys go up on the sniping rock, and a few guys sit back and ADS at the two bridges. You either walk out by that truck in the middle and get sniped, or go toward either bridge and get killed while trying to cross it. If I start with the A spawn, I'm usually calling in a Predator Missle by the 30 second mark. Basically, until someone breaks through either point, players will continue to spawn in the vicinity of C, guys can move up and either shoot them in the back, or cut off both exits by the white truck in the middle. Like I said, you basically start in a spawn trap with the B/C spawn on Village, and can be a nightmare

Dome- The team with the B/C spawn has a huge advantage. When you spawn at A you really only have two options. You either run toward the loading dock or through the Dome, and with minimal movement both those routes are easily cut off. Another match where you can rack up a quick Predator Missle, which then nets you a double or triple kill and leads you to your next killstreak.

In kill based games like Kill Confirmed the spawn is definitely huge, and these two maps have some of the worst starting spawns IMO

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:51:53 GMT

I would agree here. It depends on how good of a team you have too. If you split up and take the 2 close flags right away then the other team is definitely screwed from the start. If you can make a push and get one of those flags away from the other team though then you're right back in the game. Sometimes if you start on the side with the obvious disadvantage it can help to try to run directly to the B flag and get the upper hand immediately. I wouldn't recommend doing it by yourself though. Bring a couple of others with you and leave the other 3 guys to pick up the first flag.

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:00:40 GMT

the only unfair map is mission a spawn on dom. if your playing against a good team they will hold down middle and kill anyone that trys to flank to c. also hardhat a-b spawn is really unfair to if we spawn near c my team will just run straight to b and try to get a after that

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:50:55 GMT

In Hardhat I find running around pointless for this reason. the spawns are litterally on top of eachother so I camp, like legit get hate mail camp. But I still maintain a goal to protect. I sit on the pallets of concret bags with an LMG and defend. If it's a round where the enemy spawns on that side I can usually rack up a good 15-20 kills that round, if I'm defending my spawn I can average 10-15 kills. I usually end up in the high 20s kill wise and I seriously sit on one spot the whole game

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:41:57 GMT

hardhat as horrible spawning .. played last night and i dont know how many fn times i killed someone to only have them spawn right behind me .. fn great .

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:34:49 GMT

In CTF if you start out on the hill, the enemy can litterally sit in a corner and just stab you as you spawn. It's fvcking stupid

Re: There are some maps where you're just effed from the start

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:37:16 GMT

I hate when I start at "C" on hardhat for sure