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    <title>Community: Message List - Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
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    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:04:19 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205573698?tstart=0#205573698</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:380b050e-2e1d-4b8c-b3fe-7596d0a3bb86] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Why have we never received an official statement about this crap from someone?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:380b050e-2e1d-4b8c-b3fe-7596d0a3bb86] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:04:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205573698?tstart=0#205573698</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-20T22:04:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205561357?tstart=0#205561357</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:26ffe5f6-a66a-44e5-b135-1f520e821702] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would have called that spawn killing, looking at spawn points whilst waiting for them to spawn so you can immediately kill them. That is the cheapest way to play, it takes absolutely NO SKILL to kill people the moment that they spawn. That point would unquestionably only be argued by an idiot. That tactic does include 'spwan trapping' but my friends and I would not consider them the same thing. It can be annoying getting spawn trapped and I can see why it bothers some people who are unable to escape but providing its not a 'spawn trapped spawn killing zone' I think that its just unfortunate and that you need to improve your assault skills. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The point that i am trying to make is spawn killing and spawn trapping are not the same. Spawn killing is wrong but controlling the map and spawns is a legitimate tactic.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:26ffe5f6-a66a-44e5-b135-1f520e821702] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 21:58:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205561357?tstart=0#205561357</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-15T21:58:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205544763?tstart=0#205544763</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:5bfdd3b1-e94e-4c70-96f6-235df36a96d7] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Oh come on, surely Ghandi, Foxhound or another dev should be aware of this by now.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:5bfdd3b1-e94e-4c70-96f6-235df36a96d7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:00:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205544763?tstart=0#205544763</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-04-08T18:00:31Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 2 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205501776?tstart=0#205501776</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3cdf9053-c261-49c5-a0e7-ed5e9fd1ee10] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;You know, I wouldn't mind if this was an isolated incident. But it's not, I just ran into the guys in this video last night on hardhat of all maps. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regular CTF parties do what they call "hardhat shuffles" where they don't stay in a lobby until they get Hardhat then all six vote for Hardhat.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3cdf9053-c261-49c5-a0e7-ed5e9fd1ee10] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 23:49:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205501776?tstart=0#205501776</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-20T23:49:00Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205500740?tstart=0#205500740</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:76c16e23-632d-47cb-945b-8eea43f9ee1a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I agree with iivrruummii&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Better players deserve to do better then bad players suck it up and get better or just quit the round stop whining. i give those guys credit who got you spawned trapped lol they know how to play.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I dont personally spawn trap for kills i just spawn trap for the win &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:76c16e23-632d-47cb-945b-8eea43f9ee1a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 14:48:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205500740?tstart=0#205500740</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-20T14:48:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205500210?tstart=0#205500210</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fbf20184-1941-49e0-a69f-cb4aa7c972aa] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;wow this thread is pretty funny, people boasting about K/D and W/L and how skilled they are and how they always play on a team of 6 where of course they are going to have an advantage....yeah no one cares iivrruummii. No one. This is a CTF thread, and for a game mode that has been completely de-emphasized along with HQ in MW3, it certainly doesnt need any more issues. I was never a fan of CTF, but this needs to be fixed soon.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fbf20184-1941-49e0-a69f-cb4aa7c972aa] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 05:50:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205500210?tstart=0#205500210</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-20T05:50:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205500234?tstart=0#205500234</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e0831c8b-8ff0-4150-8577-fc3cd5dbe240] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;This needs more attention, bump lol&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e0831c8b-8ff0-4150-8577-fc3cd5dbe240] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 05:41:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205500234?tstart=0#205500234</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-20T05:41:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498051?tstart=0#205498051</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:88aaacd0-01ea-4c7e-8222-c6cafd2d82a3] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ich liebe dich.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:88aaacd0-01ea-4c7e-8222-c6cafd2d82a3] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:16:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498051?tstart=0#205498051</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T09:16:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498038?tstart=0#205498038</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0b15ad1b-a0d7-4c79-8629-4ce738e40cf4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Give it up already kid&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0b15ad1b-a0d7-4c79-8629-4ce738e40cf4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:12:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498038?tstart=0#205498038</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T09:12:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498049?tstart=0#205498049</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:99d04988-7d65-4099-a427-4af1b76a0ccf] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Es dauert nur ein paar Sekunden.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:99d04988-7d65-4099-a427-4af1b76a0ccf] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:11:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498049?tstart=0#205498049</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T09:11:27Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498034?tstart=0#205498034</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fe37c160-c9a2-48f8-bc47-09ba91cbfab7] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't know waht you trying to say. Trying to call me lazy or something because i don't want to waste 15 minutes of my life to translate that?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fe37c160-c9a2-48f8-bc47-09ba91cbfab7] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:53:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498034?tstart=0#205498034</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:53:01Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205497968?tstart=0#205497968</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:f4173c57-7249-4b9d-a593-0dc466715b27] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sie sind sehr faul weil es leicht zu &amp;#252;bersetzen mit dolmetscherin. Ich bin kein troll.﻿&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:f4173c57-7249-4b9d-a593-0dc466715b27] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:43:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205497968?tstart=0#205497968</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:43:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498031?tstart=0#205498031</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e24f872e-bc53-4314-b53a-04eb98d0201b] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;No your speaking another language. Are you just another troll?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e24f872e-bc53-4314-b53a-04eb98d0201b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:31:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498031?tstart=0#205498031</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:31:17Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205497965?tstart=0#205497965</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:6eebf40c-e472-4c97-8918-848ce79e0f0d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wie oft denken sie, dass dies passiert?﻿&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:6eebf40c-e472-4c97-8918-848ce79e0f0d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:26:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205497965?tstart=0#205497965</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:26:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498027?tstart=0#205498027</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7494e545-47e9-4525-bee0-3e3a4cd697f9] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;They are using no skill at all. I don't understand you 13 year old logic so I'm just going to stop trying.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7494e545-47e9-4525-bee0-3e3a4cd697f9] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:15:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498027?tstart=0#205498027</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:15:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205497963?tstart=0#205497963</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c149793d-1037-46c2-bf8a-3d0a367e78d4] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;They are obviously better than the people they are playing against, if they can manage a spawn trap.&amp;#160; It is all IW/SH's fault for letting this happen.&amp;#160; It is in the game until it is patched.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am not saying is fair for anyone on the other team.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c149793d-1037-46c2-bf8a-3d0a367e78d4] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:13:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205497963?tstart=0#205497963</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:13:20Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 3 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498016?tstart=0#205498016</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:70ca218b-015d-4bf0-8646-66c8075c2c81] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I think the people that do stuff in the video above are garbage players and obviously you think they are better and none of us can figure out why. Controlling the map in Dom takes skill but what is happening in this video id not Dom. It is straight up garbage players spawn killing. Watch it and tell me where the skill is in it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:70ca218b-015d-4bf0-8646-66c8075c2c81] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 08:00:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498016?tstart=0#205498016</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T08:00:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205497960?tstart=0#205497960</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:263d1c82-b16d-4547-8d4a-2bd082b622fe] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I didn't say anything about Stats Translating to Skill.&amp;#160; Did I? I just said who do you think is better?&amp;#160; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:263d1c82-b16d-4547-8d4a-2bd082b622fe] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:57:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205497960?tstart=0#205497960</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T07:57:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205497951?tstart=0#205497951</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:d7f89c1c-6b72-4748-8d3e-229c1129af74] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Where is the skill in aiming at one point and never stopping shooting. I really don't understand why you are trying to defend this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:d7f89c1c-6b72-4748-8d3e-229c1129af74] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:50:04 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205497951?tstart=0#205497951</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T07:50:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Hardhat CTF Spawns Need A Fix</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205498002?tstart=0#205498002</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9c15c71d-6372-4f15-b369-54432c14a0cb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Hope you get killed by dead mans hand 1 kill before you get a moab and see how that feels when you sit behind someones spawn.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9c15c71d-6372-4f15-b369-54432c14a0cb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 07:55:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205498002?tstart=0#205498002</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-03-19T07:55:54Z</dc:date>
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