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Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:54:32 GMT

I stopped playing MW3 for months because the lag comp was so ridiculous (been playing BF3). It ruined the game for me and my classmates; almost all of whom no longer play. AND I wasted my money on founder edition. Stupid me.

I came back recently to see if they had fixed it… STILL STINKS. I realize that lag compensation can't be dropped wholesale, but clearly they can balance things better. It's more of the same: Bullets bending 'round corners, guys with impossible reflexes, multiple center-mass shots with no hit markers, dying before you see muzzle flashes (only to see the guy empty a clip in you via kill cam), etc.

This will be the first time, in a long-long-time, I don't buy a COD title on release. I'll probably wait a month or so and watch the forums. If lag comp continues to be an issue, COD will lose this long time fan.

I refuse to play a game that penalizes me for having a great (and expensive) internet connection.

Cheers!

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:56:01 GMT

I think these guys agree with your video cap !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLJc-35BTiE

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Sep 2012 14:57:02 GMT

Any word on if Black Ops 2 will have these same issues. I've already decided to not
buy until I can confirm the quality of the MP. MW3 was the worst
quality MP of the series by far. Each iteration of COD seems to get worse.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:04:05 GMT

BO2 MP will be the same 'lag' as BO1.

If u played it u should know that BO1 has horrible lag compensation & hit detection.

until they dont change their engine it will has always the same problems.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:05:34 GMT

there is no need for theater recordings, just film your gameplay after you have optimized you internet settings to get an open nat, every time you get killed let the kill cam play through completely to show what the other player saw, you can then cut out everything except your deaths up to before dying and after the end of the kill cam, just use an HD camera, film it, and upload, easy, since the kill cam is a immediatly played back theater mode recording that can't be turned off it makes the lag comp forced deaths very obvious when recorded.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:53:16 GMT

you think that's bad, try 4 ps3's split screened on a 3g tether with the 5th and final connection a laptop downloading a 2 hour HD video, that's an instant 80-6 KD for the whole team until the battery dies since their phone will discharge faster than it will charge up, it's annoying but funny hearing their mic "why didn't you charge up the phone first like I said, look it's dying" then bloop 8 players all fall out of the lobby or right in the middle of a match. How these people get into a 125ms and never get kicked is unreal!

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 02:55:29 GMT

Wow, I applaud you for your essay despite your disability, it was quite well written and is much better than a lot of people. But yea, mw3 has crappy lag comp.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 01:48:01 GMT

This is terrible, unfair to a percentage of customer (many of whom are the best, most loyal customers) and even illegal. You cannot advertise 60 frames per second and only give it those with bad connections. You cannot advertise an experience to all but only make it available to some... Horrible. Fix it

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:22:07 GMT

8 Months later and this is STILL an issue.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:33:56 GMT

Loved this video and how well it was put together.

I also totally agree with the thoughts you shared at the end of the vid how people with good Internet shouldn't be punished and how people who are unable to get good Internet shouldn't pull host and also shouldn't get a boost for it.

In MW2 I lived in a small farming village in Northern Ireland my Internet was 1.5mb up at its peak and had rubbish ping and really poor latency as such I 3 barred/ 2 barred 99% of all games I entered. As a result I expected to have to up my reactions to offset the lag I would RIGHTLY experience due to my poor Internet this meant I played pre emptively and did so with limited success pulling in a 1KD and that was because I knew I would be behind a player with a better connection (usually everyone lol) so I trained myself to work around it.

In black ops I upgraded from 1.5MB and a rural farm village to 30MB and a small town I didn't notice any lag in Blops but then again the contrast in game play was huge I went from a tweak shooter where I had to play pre emptively to even have a chance of getting a kill to a shooter where gun fights lasted longer accuracy was immensely important and staying on target took precedent over getting in the first bullet so I think that’s the reason I didn't really pick up on lag comp back then.

Enter MW3 still in the small village now with 60MB connection and a lot better router and equipment my latency and ping are rated some of the highest in the entire of the UK by popular speed testing sites and what happens? well for the first few months everything is amazing I get back into the twitch shooter mentality and pull my highest kill death of any cod and best win/loss ratio why? because generally November through December right up until around Christmas those people who buy cod are serious gamers who invest in their Internet who know how much help a great Internet can (SHOULD) be in an online game.

Now I then sold my xbox and had to stop gaming for a while due to work reasons etc. I kept the Internet still rated in the highest percentile in the UK and come June 20th I purchase a new xbox 360 and a copy of MW3 and COD4 which by the way apart from the odd hacker is really smooth for me and plays like a dream.

In MW3 however I get the instant kill the numerous hit markers that don't translate to the kill cam all of the things that are mentioned in your great video and It sucks so bad because I cant really adjust my game play now to suit it due to the lag comp now being so damn unpredictable at least in MW2 I could predict how the lag would work in the game and play around it now? now it changes from lobby to lobby and game to game.

So please all those at infinity ward please pay attention to this and TREYARCH please don't implement the lobby system of lag comp in you match making it ruins the game for everyone and this comes from someone who spent time in both camps.

( I am severely dyslexic and have trouble with punctuation and word and sentence structure sorry for any inconvenience but please help me by letting me know if Im doing something wrong please message me about it and I will work on it.)

The codPredator

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:09:30 GMT

I went back to Black Ops and been having great games. My KD is like .1 higher in Black Ops than MW3.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 19:03:46 GMT

Well, you're definitely in the minority.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:45:08 GMT

Towards the end of Bops I was pulling a 1.5-2 KDR, in MW3 I am probably around 1-1.2KDR, lol.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:41:00 GMT

So how much higher was your k/d in Bops vs MW3?

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:39:10 GMT

I am just now seeing this. This is a great video. Has any developers or IW people posted in here?

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:16:56 GMT

Not for me, once I upgraded my internet for Bops 80-90% games had zero lag, it was the bees knees!

I am sorry you did but MW3 is a joke so I am just being hopeful.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:14:14 GMT

yes cause 3arch has no lag. Unbelievable.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:13:19 GMT

Yep it sure is, matches are still 50/50 crap shoot! Luckily its almost November!

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:56:53 GMT

Yes, its very sad. All my friends have sold their copies and move to Ghost Recon or back to Black Ops.

Re: This is Lag Compensation

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 16:42:10 GMT

I'm very thankful for the continued support on this thread and the original video.

It's frustrating that we are almost halfway through July and the game is still the same as it was when I made this video in March.

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Any word on if Black Ops 2 will have these same issues. I've already decided to notbuy until I can confirm the quality of the MP. MW3 was the worstquality MP of the series by far. Each iteration of COD seems to get worse.

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Any word on if Black Ops 2 will have these same issues. I've already decided to not
buy until I can confirm the quality of the MP. MW3 was the worst
quality MP of the series by far. Each iteration of COD seems to get worse.