Community: Message List - Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:22:40 GMT

I completely agree that this gun needs more ammo. I regularly get 5-6 hitmarkers on upper body shots before I get a kill, lightly tapping trigger to slow fire. That's maybe 4-5 kills based on given ammo. I would like to see ammo increased and either a range or damage buff. This shotgun is completely in need of a rebalance.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:47:29 GMT

the link: http://community.callofduty.com/thread/200495618?start=190&tstart=0

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:41:33 GMT

Take a look at the shotgun balance threat v3. We need reinforcement!

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:02:58 GMT

I agree, buff the AA12. I played for a couple of hours with it and it was so frustrating. There were points I wanted to throw my controller because I would spray an entire clip into a guy point blank and I would die. Also, the range is way too short, it dissappears at like 5 ft. This needs a buff

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 02 Jul 2012 01:03:42 GMT

They should swap the striker clip with the AA-12, striker is fine with less bullets and the AA-12 could use more..or just give them the same clip size .

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:31:03 GMT

And it's ironic since, in real life, the AA-12 is one of the most beastly shotguns in the world.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:52:05 GMT

2-3 shots? More like 3-4 on average. Once you get further than about 5 metres it can take more than the entire magazine to kill. The gun is freaking awful. Also, shotguns have no headshot multiplier, or any multipliers at all, so it doesn't matter where you shoot them.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:48:47 GMT

Thanks for the advice...

I'll stay with the USAS for a while now I've levelled it right up...

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:34:50 GMT

USAS-12 is definitely a lot more powerful and consistant. The AA-12 takes 2-3 shots even up close unless you're lucky enough to get a headshot kill, which ends up in you eating up its ammo quickly, hence the ammo buffing request in the first place. It only really hits effectively at near-point blank range because of it having the widest spread and shortest range of all the shotguns. It's one of the only weapons where you can constantly see it the bullets disappear in mid-air because their range is so short.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 18:17:31 GMT

It depends. If you want people to ***** about the weapon you're using, go with the AA-12. If you just want to get easy kills, go with the USAS.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:57:26 GMT

Slightly OFF TOP I'm sorry, but can anyone with 1000+ kills experience with both the AA 12 and the USAS tell me which one is the best please?

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:56:14 GMT

Not as useful as it would have been several patches ago.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:50:13 GMT

Don't know why, but I felt like posting this video about hipfire. Enjoy.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 00:58:06 GMT

Guess I should have said I've tested it myself, huh? Well, shortly after watching that vid I went to go and check it. To no surprise, that's how it actually is. If that's not enough, go test it yourself, theater clips would be too short to use.

Remember the MW2 Akimbo 1887s and how they forgot to patch it's "Bling" variant? Same thing applies here. They patched the ADS spread WITHOUT SA but forgot to adjust values when SA and ADS.

Don't forget that this whole shotgun ADS spread bug has been around for pretty much every IW COD since COD4 (dunno about earlier IW/3arc games) and is only being addressed now.

trialstardragon wrote:

Another problem is he tests every gun at the same distance, the spread pattern on each gun is not the same.

The whole point of the vid was to show that SA negates the need to ADS on shotties as it provides tighter pellet spread. Tighter spread = more pellets on target = higher chances of a OHK.

Semi-related, does the Wii even get patches?

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:17:59 GMT

That is for the ps3, I play on the xbox find a video that proves the same on the xbox then maybe you can say is proven. Until than that only shows how it works on the ps3.

That video is the ps3 version of the game you can clearly tell this by the press square to reload.

The ps3 version and the xbox version are not the same in how everything works, the games play a little different.

So to use the ps3 video and say its the same for all three consoles including the wii is flawed logic and not conclusive proof. It makes and assumption that it is the same for each console which until tested can not be declared as proven.

Another problem is he tests every gun at the same distance, the spread pattern on each gun is not the same. Each gun has different optimum ranges which effect the spread pattern and how fast it grows with each shot.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:59:48 GMT

You'd be wrong to say it's not proven as it has been.

I don't like he tests the AA-12 though. He doesn't control its rate of fire like he did the USAS or the Armsel.

And CSx121, it is kinda funny, kinda like the QC of this game in general. I still like the game regardless. Stupid fun, one could say.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:02:47 GMT

LOL a petition to buff the automatic shotgun.

Oh, but we must make sure it doesn't become a noob weapon!

CoD community.. you so funny.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:37:49 GMT

Not proven, just assumed. ADS fired weapons are more accurate than hipfired even when it comes to shotguns. SA reduces the hipfire reticule size so it does not spread out as much as normal. But an ADS weapon still fires with greater accurracy than a SA hipfired weapon.

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:23:24 GMT

To elaborate on this, Steady Aim on a shotty is more accurate than a shotty ADSed with OR without Steady Aim.

To make it clearer, Steady Aim hipfire shotty > any other method for shooting someone with a shotty

Re: Petition: More reserve ammo for AA-12

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 19:07:30 GMT

This is a complete lie. Spread of shotties hipfired + Steady Aim is proven to be better than ADS.

Idiot.

trialstardragon wrote:

ADS does improve the consistentancy of the shotugs by far over just hipfiring them. I Ads with all shotties even the striker and it hits better, lower spread more accuarte kills easier, less shots to kill.

Hip firing is meant to be down right near unaccurate with some of the guns. Just smg's lmg's and ar's that fire faster you do not notice it as much when close as you will with a shotgun becaue they are spitting out so many rounds if you miss a few it does not matter near as much with a shotgun.

Learn to ads and burst fire more with them and only spray when in large groups of enemies.

Just because a weapon can be full auto fired does not mean that is how it was meant to be used in ever situation. Not even with the aa-12.