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    <title>Community: Message List - K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
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    <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:00:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205299494?tstart=0#205299494</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8ff8cfd3-2eba-4219-be20-2b6cbbc0f867] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;In black ops they meant something IMO.&amp;#160; I could tell how agressive I was being based on my SPM.&amp;#160; How well I was killing and playing the objective in DOM.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8ff8cfd3-2eba-4219-be20-2b6cbbc0f867] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:00:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205299494?tstart=0#205299494</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T19:00:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205299340?tstart=0#205299340</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:4413c2c9-5f45-4a71-90d2-e167bab3c24b] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leaders boards are pointless in COD. I'm not even sure why they have them. Being at the top of the leaderboard doesn't mean your good. It just means you play a hell of a lot or you cheat. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:4413c2c9-5f45-4a71-90d2-e167bab3c24b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:02:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205299340?tstart=0#205299340</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T17:02:08Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205299249?tstart=0#205299249</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:04ec1174-52e1-4509-93ab-fe0d5709b125] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;None. If you enjoy playing the game that is all that matters. No Stats are important.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Stats and peoples desire to be first is what spoils the game. That and the endless pursuit to be 10th Prest.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:04ec1174-52e1-4509-93ab-fe0d5709b125] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:11:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205299249?tstart=0#205299249</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T16:11:14Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298459?tstart=0#205298459</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:1ff9cf3c-6fb7-449d-93b8-2680880817ea] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;K/D &amp;amp; W/L in my opinion.... But not that bothered, only check if someone gets the upper hand to see if its skill or just plain luck &lt;img height="16px" src="http://community.activision.com/4.5.6/images/emoticons/grin.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:1ff9cf3c-6fb7-449d-93b8-2680880817ea] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 08:01:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298459?tstart=0#205298459</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T08:01:52Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298446?tstart=0#205298446</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3c307b24-f53b-4d94-b04b-03aef53d4032] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well lets see here would you change your mind if I said maybe they were defending flages, and unlike the other guy who probably gives up a Pave Low the K/D guy gets one for your team making it easier for you to cap. You never see teams with a lot of minus players who play the objective win against killwhores. I play KC a lot so I don't ave to worry about being called a killwhore, as I do get a lot of tags, though recently in dom my score has over 100 to 1 ratio to my kills which means I've capping more flags recently. Also I play TDM so I can just kill my K/D is a 2.5 which is higher than objective games that I play in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3c307b24-f53b-4d94-b04b-03aef53d4032] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:49:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298446?tstart=0#205298446</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T07:49:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298442?tstart=0#205298442</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:3a25eba8-3372-4bb8-b700-22ae906f2fdb] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I care could care less. I do not care where I am on leaderboards. I just play to have fun, not for some silly stat that means nothing once the game is out of the console or turned off.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:3a25eba8-3372-4bb8-b700-22ae906f2fdb] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:37:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298442?tstart=0#205298442</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T07:37:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298256?tstart=0#205298256</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:9d3038ec-9bbc-41b1-9a02-c055a49fcc96] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;W/l is your teammates stat, not yours.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;There are flaws in every stat, especially spm. No one stat should define a player. A combination of all stats is best.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:9d3038ec-9bbc-41b1-9a02-c055a49fcc96] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:28:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298256?tstart=0#205298256</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T07:28:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298414?tstart=0#205298414</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:0ab539f8-d1de-4d72-9af2-f2cebc0197ca] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Neither wl&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:0ab539f8-d1de-4d72-9af2-f2cebc0197ca] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:09:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298414?tstart=0#205298414</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T07:09:50Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298297?tstart=0#205298297</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:7a04931c-d829-496b-8f5e-07d89595173c] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;neither matter to me, what is important to me is the players who help the team the most&lt;br/&gt;you went 15-29 but had alot of caps/defends while the other dude went 30-4 but didnt help in the objective at all then i would value the 15-29 player more&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;the only time KD is important is when its in TDM, and even then it could be out done by a team players actions (say somebody with a lower KD but who ran the hell out of a recon drone and tagged tons of assain pro users&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:7a04931c-d829-496b-8f5e-07d89595173c] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 07:03:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298297?tstart=0#205298297</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T07:03:06Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298409?tstart=0#205298409</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:2e0c7091-7425-4a27-8260-9563a89ea83d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;K:D is more impressive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However in my opinion, like in hockey, the way to tell how good a player is(in team deathmatch) is their plus/minus per game. Because....&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If a person goes 5-0 in a game they have the best K:D however if someone goes 40-5 the same game i find they benifit the team more with their + 35 as aposed to the +5.(this is in team deathmatch mainly)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;K:D is not important in some game objective based vareints. However it cant hurt to have a good K:D in capture the flag or domination.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:2e0c7091-7425-4a27-8260-9563a89ea83d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:51:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298409?tstart=0#205298409</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T06:51:10Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298395?tstart=0#205298395</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:ef895b83-105c-4de7-9fa5-a98f44b476bc] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Would say both actually.Am always trying to improve all aspects of my stats and hopefully end up with a Honest balanced combat record .But yeah am missing SPM can only see it on elite when comparing with another player..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:ef895b83-105c-4de7-9fa5-a98f44b476bc] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 06:36:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298395?tstart=0#205298395</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T06:36:05Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 4 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298342?tstart=0#205298342</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:b4a0de39-efad-4113-b709-50d6dd498d0b] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Leaderboard ranking means absolutely nothing in this game.&amp;#160; I think it was extremely stupid that you have to play everyday for multiple hours to be ranked highly.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;SPM or some variation would be better.&amp;#160; I've seen lots of mediocre players that have high rankings though so I'd take k/d over leaderboard ranking.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:b4a0de39-efad-4113-b709-50d6dd498d0b] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:56:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298342?tstart=0#205298342</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T05:56:23Z</dc:date>
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      <title>K:D or LeaderBoard ??</title>
      <link>http://community.activision.com/message/205298334?tstart=0#205298334</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:baec62bf-14d1-45ff-970a-7c3547fa16b5] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Whats more important to you as a player your K:D or the leaderboard or maybe you could care less!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:baec62bf-14d1-45ff-970a-7c3547fa16b5] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:45:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>donotreply@activision.com</author>
      <guid>http://community.activision.com/message/205298334?tstart=0#205298334</guid>
      <dc:date>2012-01-10T05:45:44Z</dc:date>
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