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SMG VS ASSAULT RIFLE Which is King in MW3? + Aggressive MOAB - Prepare For Glory!

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 21:09:42 GMT

SMG vs Assault Rifle which is King? Been talking with many different people on the subject of which gun class reigns supreme overall. Most believe due to most of the map layouts being more tight/condense that the smg's have the clear advantage on most maps. What's your opinion?

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Re: SMG VS ASSAULT RIFLE Which is King in MW3? + Christmas MOAB - Prepare For Glory!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:22:16 GMT

Haven't tried the MK14 with thermal yet might have to give that a try, so far I've only used thermal on a few of the LMG's. The PP90m1 is an amazing weapon and the specialist loadout you described sounds like the right setup if you run rapid fire.

Re: SMG VS ASSAULT RIFLE Which is King in MW3? + Christmas MOAB - Prepare For Glory!

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:08:47 GMT

Nothing wrong with loving the G36C, it's a great gun. Underrated IMO. However SMG with range on almost every map is sufficient enough to do well, even against AR users. Just need to watch which parts of the map you enter, route running etc.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:06:44 GMT

WiseguyFTL wrote:

The thing I like about this game is the balance between the gun classes. SMg's wreck close range, the PP90/P90/MP7 and even the UMP which is a bad gun overall will destroy any AR up close if you hit your shots. And from a long range the Assault rifles will destroy the SMG's if you hit your shots. Unlike in MW2 where the UMP was a more effective long range weapon than the ACR, or in BO where the FAMAS would totally destroy any SMG at any range. It all depends on the map this game. On maps like Mission, Dome, Seatown I like to use either an SMG or the Striker, on maps like Interchange and Lockdown I'll use the ACR, the G36c or the M4a1.

SMG with range destroys everything. Assault rifles have limited areas where they will out gun SMG's just due to the horrible map designs and focus on close quarter battles. Don't get me wrong i love my G-36 but there is only one or two maps where I feel I have the advantage using an assault rifle. If there wasn't a range proficiency assault rifles would be a better pick for a lot of maps. Since they have range, assault rifles just can't beat the mobility and rate of fire of an SMG.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 18:01:50 GMT

As cheesy as it is I usually use 2 attachments silencer/thermal scope on the MK14. It's fantastic at holding objectives on DOM.

For KC, TD, and Free for all I use the PP90m1 with range and rapid fire. This is fantastic when paired with specialist and scavanger as your first specialist perk. That way after you get a couple of kills you can start refilling your ammo which is getting low by then. I usually main spec Blind Eye/Quickdraw/Stalker for that build.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 14:10:54 GMT

What do you run on your M4?

Re: SMG VS ASSAULT RIFLE Which is King in MW3? + Christmas MOAB - Prepare For Glory!

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 06 Jan 2012 21:42:23 GMT

Interesting, do you run Overkill on any of your classes? I hardly see anybody running that.

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donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:48:05 GMT

I think play style factors into it a bit as well, using a smg gives you the advantage of more mobility however the AR's versatility is hard to pass on.

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donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:34:22 GMT

Yeah map layout plays a big part, some of the medium to larger maps though can still be ran with a smg/shotgun with precise route running though not easy.

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donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 03 Jan 2012 14:32:30 GMT

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Re: SMG VS ASSAULT RIFLE Which is King in MW3? + Christmas MOAB - Prepare For Glory!

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:50:40 GMT

The thing I like about this game is the balance between the gun classes. SMg's wreck close range, the PP90/P90/MP7 and even the UMP which is a bad gun overall will destroy any AR up close if you hit your shots. And from a long range the Assault rifles will destroy the SMG's if you hit your shots. Unlike in MW2 where the UMP was a more effective long range weapon than the ACR, or in BO where the FAMAS would totally destroy any SMG at any range. It all depends on the map this game. On maps like Mission, Dome, Seatown I like to use either an SMG or the Striker, on maps like Interchange and Lockdown I'll use the ACR, the G36c or the M4a1.

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donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 23:36:02 GMT

Yup smoke is a great tip to use for smg users, when you find yourself in those situations where the gap is to large.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:14:06 GMT

I use both AR and SMG. AR and light machine guns with larger mas like Interchange and SMGs for close encounter maps like Dome. Of course that in certain areas of all maps some might have more advanatge than others but this overall rule has worked ok for me.

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donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:08:03 GMT

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donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 17:18:28 GMT

Yeah silenced and range works great, but you hit the nail on the head regarding switching up routes/spots to maximize loadout efficiency.

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donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:26:21 GMT

Yeah the MP7 is insane, even with silencer it has amazing damage at medium range and as you mentioned nearly no recoil.

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donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:35:37 GMT

I think ARs have are king now, and will always be king. You can't beat the versatility of an AR. They do well enough to keep up with SMGs at close range, dominate mid range, and do well at long range. Really just cant beat their versatility.

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donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:14:47 GMT

Yeah I agree you have to play a much more defensive/post up style to keep the majority of your engagements at medium to long range when using AR's to maximize it's advantage.

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donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:32:54 GMT

Yeah range helps immensly, and those 3 AR's are effective in most situations.

Re: SMG VS ASSAULT RIFLE Which is King in MW3? + Christmas MOAB - Prepare For Glory!

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:02:22 GMT

MK14 is a powerful gun, I've been using Kick/red dot+ scav but I'm sure there are better combo's to maximize that gun's ability. What proficiency/attachment's do you use with it?