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Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:38:13 GMT

i understand your point of cost but when a company earns as much as acti does then it wouldnt really matter. the point your making about setting up your own dedi is correct but in a game like cod they should be supplied so there would be no set up or cost the user end. bf3 dedis where fine untill they decided to let users rent there own and then the trouble starts due to childish admins. theres usually more positives to dedis than negatives but the p2p dosnt cost acti as much as it would cost them for dedis and as a company who wants to make as much cash as they can we wont ever see them on this generation of console.

Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:06:28 GMT

lol u can tel most of these ppl are new to playing games online...dedicated servers = more trouble than they are worth 90% of the time....u guys in here cryin about the lag comp now would be tryin to stage protests and all kinds of idiocy because u wouldnt know the first thing about how to set urself up to play on them and have it work properly...u think its bad now? wait til ur connecting to their dedicated server that is 9000 miles from u and u do nothing but lag...and with dedicated u would have no choice....u expect them to put 100 servers in each country? go price out a top of the line server..im 99% sure most of u crying for this have no idea what it costs just for the hardware alone...not to mention how much it would cost to maintain each one of them...who do u think would pay for that? we would...and it wouldnt be cheap trust me...at least this way if u lag enough it will pick a new host...if on a dedicated ur just S.O.L....IF U DONT BELIEVE ME GO SET UP TO PLAY THROUGH SYSTEM LINK WITH XLINK KAI or some other tunnel program u can put on a pc...watch how stupid u feel setting that up if u have no idea how any of it works...i can just hear the kids cryin now...

Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 11:49:30 GMT

All Call of Duty games need dedicated service!

Really, think about people in russia or something with at least 1 person playing Cod online there they have lag America doesn't need dedicated service but ACTIVISION can put dedicated service still because it is NEEDED!

-Just saying

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 17:19:31 GMT

Thank you, I was about to direct him to that interview.

I know, for myself, how frustrating dedicated servers can be, if you aren't close enough you may as well resign. P2P is the best option for the majority of players out there and if you refine you search parameters to "Locale Only" you should have a better experience in the game, though it may take longer to find one being played.

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:43:24 GMT

There was big rumors going around not so long ago that treyarchs next game will have dedicated servers but after reading an interview with IW executive producer it just aint ever going to happen it would cost far too much to do it properly (billions according to Mark rubin and you know who will have to pay that us which i would be fine with but most wouldnt and then you will be making a thread saying im not buying this game because its costing $30 more)

If Dedis were not done properly more people would have a worse connection than they do now playing on P2P, and i agree ive played some games where they had the dedicated servers in the USA and connecting from england was a horrible experience and sold the game straight away.

Another thing because it would costs so much to run the servers that would be needed what happens 2 - 3 years down the line i tell you what would happen they would have to turn them off because it cost so damm much to run, just imagine not being able to play your fav COD game after a couple of years.

Here read the interview:

http://beta.digitalwarfare247.com/games/modernwarfare3/281-mw3-dedicated-console -servers

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:26:55 GMT

The OP posted this a month ago...

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:21:48 GMT

Agreed. Alot of these guys already know the answer.

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 10:39:04 GMT

Suggest Search function to OP this has been covered extensively

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:46:23 GMT

I hate to bring up an ancient thread, BUT PC DOESN'T EVEN HAVE REAL DEDICATED SERVERS. The one platform that actually needs dedicated servers to function properly and they leave it out! They've promised us dedicated servers since day one but spit in our face and just gave us more or less dedicated private matches. As PC players we can't even change our max FPS. I'm sorry my friends but there is no way that Xbox will be getting dedicated servers if they won't even give them to PC. At least this might get noticed by a dev since its in the Xbox section... >.> sigh

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:48:06 GMT

STD|GR0MIT wrote:

Im sorry but your a complete moron tbh,peer to peer is horrible, if like me you played on dedicated servers all around the world for several years in games ranging from AA, CoD and Battlefield and you were subjected to the Mw2 peer to peer sytem the hit detection is a joke, the hit boxes are the size of building and the hit delay is laughable,

You know when you start throwing around words like moron to describe other forum users you might want to double think that as it can come back and hit you on the butt..

for example "sweetheart", hit box size has absolutely nothing to do with what type of server you connect to, so in even mentioning is mornic and shows a complete lack of basic knowledge.

secondly being on a dedicated server doesnt automatically mean you will suddenly have great hit detection and hit delay, again thats based on two main facotrs the actual latency of the game your are playing and how its coded. Fyi "sweatheart" you get just as much latency on a dedicated server as you do on a listen server. You also nowadays are subject to the same algorithms of lag compensation as one of the main cons of dedicated servers is lowest ping wins.

STD|GR0MIT wrote:

i dont know world you live in sweetheart but you seriously need to read up on dedicated server and actually play on them, oh by the way when you play a dedicated server you press the PING tab and it'll sort them by lowest first, no doubt your the kind of moron who licks the first one to appear with a ping of over 200, sort them by lowest ping first, i live in the UK and i play on servers from East coast US to Russia/Italy with no issues, i dont join server with 200+ ping, if you do then your a effin retard.

Please keep your opinions to yourself and stay on your console ffs.

This statement here reaffirms your absolute lack of any tangible knowledge, so you dont have any problems playing east coast , wierd i would've assumed a high ping seeing as the distance involved means its impossible to have a low ping,

But on one area I do agree with you you should really keep your opinions to yourself or just save time . .

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:21:16 GMT

Im sorry but your a complete moron tbh,peer to peer is horrible, if like me you played on dedicated servers all around the world for several years in games ranging from AA, CoD and Battlefield and you were subjected to the Mw2 peer to peer sytem the hit detection is a joke, the hit boxes are the size of building and the hit delay is laughable, i dont know world you live in sweetheart but you seriously need to read up on dedicated server and actually play on them, oh by the way when you play a dedicated server you press the PING tab and it'll sort them by lowest first, no doubt your the kind of moron who licks the first one to appear with a ping of over 200, sort them by lowest ping first, i live in the UK and i play on servers from East coast US to Russia/Italy with no issues, i dont join server with 200+ ping, if you do then your a effin retard.

Please keep your opinions to yourself and stay on your console ffs.

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:04:31 GMT

1- you wont get dedicated servers because that would require alot more work than what it would on pc.

2- you would have to pay for dedicated server like on pc, you sure as hell wont get them for free.

3- you would need to understand how to operate one correctly and with maturity, lets be honest most if not all console palyers would kick others from the server just for being better.

It would be great for our simple cousins on console to get dedicated servers, then we would'nt have to worry about craptivision screwing up gaming and influencing all other developers to go for an infirior system that was dropped nearly 10 or so years ago for a far more supirior system. but hey activision are ****ing idiots and only in it for the money, they claim to listen to what we want but give us crap we neither want or need.

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:57:19 GMT

Why don't buy the game for PC then and join the Elitist sub-genre?

Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:48:35 GMT

Just because you feel you DESERVE it doesnt mean you are going to get it. You do not deserve anything.

It 1 month before the games release and people are already acting selfish over what they DESERVE.

Tell you what, if you feel you DERSERVE it and you dont get it , then dont buy the game. And then dont come back to this forum.

We already know in advance that there will be no dedicated servers for the Xbox. So if you buy the game then you have no right to cry you want dedicated servers.

And forgive the if its to the wrong person. It seems maybe the new forum is buggy or I havent learned it . First post

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 01:09:30 GMT

Saying "Peer 2 Peer works perfectly the large majority of the time." is simply laughable. Have you played Black Oops? The connection in that game is atrocious. I'm under the impression that it's because of the combat record and theater (all of which are run off the host). MW2 did not have those features, but the gameplay was also a lot smoother and connections more reliable. If MW3 has the same combat record and theater features that Black Oops has, but is not running dedicated servers, I'm afraid the connection issues will be just as bad.

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:12:15 GMT

I think they should since I heard they were going to have more players slots in mutilplayer

Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:08:20 GMT

like many have confirmed there will be no Console dedicated but only PC. with this in mind it makes me want to sell my xbox and put the money into a new Tower that can run MW3 and do much more..

Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:41:36 GMT

I wouldn't say consoles are more competitive because the controls are worse. remember that the guys you are playing against also have better control.

Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:40:17 GMT

mw3 (pc) will have dedicated servers

as long as you have the option to have your own dedicated server, I would believe that's the best solution. it only costs a few bucks a month to rent one, that's nothing.

Re: Will MW3 have dedicated servers for Xbox 360 and PS3 or are they taking the cheap way out? When will we get our money's worth?

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:11:42 GMT

Better to have the dedi's and have the P2P servers as a fall back, I look at it as I have the best connection possible with a few hiccups, downtime for maitenance or the servers just crap out for a while for whatever reason, I guess I just dont care if I cant play a FPS for a few hours or a day, its no big deal to me.

For me, Black Ops was choppy for me about 40% of the time I would say, and my interenet was not great, DSL 12 download and 1 upload, but it is plenty to run a standard COD game, and trust me, if the games were still more barebones like COD4/WAW, I would not care if they were on listens or dedi's, I just think the Elite service and all the stat tracking is more than most home internet can handle at times, along with other apps being run on the same connection.

I think it bothers me that my game experience is depending on what a person pays for with their ISP, as well, that they can easily manipulate their internet, streaming, torrenting, lag switching etc, while playing the game, and if they are host, it affects everyone in the lobby except them, as where if he was doing that on a dedi, he would be lagging around but it wouldnt really help him all that much.

I just upgraded my internet to cable which may or may not be a mistake, maybe that will make a difference for me, but I know alot of the complaints about listen servers are just the reasons I listed, while they can work fine, it still is all down to one persons internet to transfer the game data.