Community: Message List - Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:46:21 GMT

jassieray wrote:

@Djam.. I'd hate to admit it.. But this time I actually agree with you. See how long that would last before all the quick scoping clowns start bitching. I'd bet money that if people were bitching about snipers being underpowered the first few days of release that would have been fixed in the very first patch.

Exactly. They listen to the most immature of this community which is the majority of everyone who snipes religiously. That majority consist of kids, ego-filled morons, and more kids.

Not just that. Quickscoping is so easy and simple in this game, it can beat shotties in its niche. Before you can get shoot, the guy already has already scoped in on you and dropshotting or strafing will do little.

It is very disappointing to see fourzerotwo lie to many at a convention saying that there will be some balance to Quickscoping. Nice one there.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:19:59 GMT

It's just the main thing that p**** me of is how shotties have to be worked up till level 23 or 28 to be remotely useful, and get a good score, and tobe able to play the objectives effectively... whilst the other guns are actually usable right away, how is that balance? I don't want them sniper range like mw2 as they wouldn't be shotguns, but maybe range being bumped down to level 14-19, i mean who on earth uses melee on a shotgun?

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:13:47 GMT

I don't lag a lot. Only when I'm using a wireless connection.

Just today I put four shots into a guy with a Striker from literally 3 feet away and don't even get a hitmarker. But he turns around, hip fires, and kills me in one burst. And this is after they apparently nerfed the hip fire spread.

@Djam.. I'd hate to admit it.. But this time I actually agree with you. See how long that would last before all the quick scoping clowns start bitching. I'd bet money that if people were bitching about snipers being underpowered the first few days of release that would have been fixed in the very first patch.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:16:27 GMT

That's actually a good idea as i actually snipe AKA "Hardscope" and i find sniping way too easy on this game, plus it would slow quickscopers down a LOT... good thinking.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:08:21 GMT

Its a semi auto and atm using it means nothing with all the lag so its hard to determine whether or not its OP.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:07:11 GMT

Here's an idea:

Add a Damage profiency to sniper rifles. Meaning take off a certain amount of sniper rifles default damage and turn it into a profiency. This profiency would be unlocked at weapon level 28. Without this profiency all sniper rifles would require 2 hits minimum to kill.

Thoughts?

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:04:05 GMT

I liked the way Black Ops did snipers and shotguns as well. Aside from the variety. But I was able to look past that.

I'm convinced that IW and SH just don't care though.

Look at their Type 95 nerf. What needed to be changed was either the damage or the rate of fire. But instead they change the hip fire spread.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:02:29 GMT

Shotguns are fine. Only reason you get hitmarker because not enough pellets are not connecting at close range. You basicly have to camp with or manage to get your hipfire directly on them ahnd the more you use it the better you get with it.

Its not 1 shot kill everytime with noob aiming.

Re: Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:54:53 GMT

Exactly, i feel Treyarch had the shotties and snipers (after a couple of patches) just perfect, shotties worked in CQC and snipers worked at long distances, but it seems iw just decided to make snipers an OP version of the shotgun, it's quite sad really how they never get the shotguns right, mw2 they were sniper rifles, now they're only good unless you play HC or get range.

I enjoy working for stuff don't get me wrong, but rank 23 you have to get it until it's remotely useful, it's ridiculous.

Alright IW and SH. You've effectively made shotguns a pile of shit. Now lets work on quick scoping.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:41:45 GMT

My biggest problem with quick scoping has always been the fact that a sniper rifle can easily fill the role of a shotgun. But a shotgun couldn't fill the role of a sniper(you can argue that the SPAS-12 had good range in MW2. But it wasn't all that amazing.).

Shotguns can't even fill their own shoes effectively now. Why should snipers be able to? Either buff shotguns or make snipers worthless in CQC as well.

Actually. Buff the shotguns and make snipers useless in CQC anyway. Make the entire game better.