Community: Message List - Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 26 Jan 2012 18:13:36 GMT

DLSV2 wrote:

traxxas58 wrote:
YOU are the one that doesn't understand that skill does matter. I can aim and shoot faster than someone with a Type 95 then I will kill them. I do this using a thing called SKILL. Therefore the Type 95 has never been a problem for me. If you completely out gun the opponent with tactics and aiming ability like I do then then opponent having a Type 95 doesn't make a difference so quit your bullshit.
So by your moronic logic, a gun with

20,000 bullet clip

10,000 RPM

0 recoil

0 sway

1 shot kill at all ranges

Explosive bullets

Instant ADS

Instant Reload

is balanced. Congratulations, you're the 3rd biggest moron on the forum.

Please explain to me where I said that. I said the Type 95 doesn't mean I can't kill people. Not once did I mention a gun with the sort of statistics that you have just mentioned. The Type 95 has NONE of the above mentioned attributes. Obviously if a gun like that existed then the user would or at least SHOULD do very well with it, but even so, if the user cannot aim quickly enough then people with far inferior weaponry would still be able to kill them. Which is where the SKILL part comes in.

And in response to your last sentence I would argue that such comments as your last means you should be much higher ranked in the 'moron' category that me.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:44:26 GMT

traxxas58 wrote:
YOU are the one that doesn't understand that skill does matter. I can aim and shoot faster than someone with a Type 95 then I will kill them. I do this using a thing called SKILL. Therefore the Type 95 has never been a problem for me. If you completely out gun the opponent with tactics and aiming ability like I do then then opponent having a Type 95 doesn't make a difference so quit your bullshit.

So by your moronic logic, a gun with

20,000 bullet clip

10,000 RPM

0 recoil

0 sway

1 shot kill at all ranges

Explosive bullets

Instant ADS

Instant Reload

is balanced. Congratulations, you're the 3rd biggest moron on the forum.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:12:00 GMT

The Type95 is fine as it is, I've been hammered by a Scar-H before the Type95 can even start to fire; it takes two direct hit's to down an enemy and the fire rate isn't as fast as alternative weapons which equilizes the damage ratios; making it rather balanced already.

Those who cry about it being OP most likely have a poor accuracy, fire first and get bullets on target and you beat the Type95; be a common noob and spray everywhere and expect the Type95 bullets to bite your ass.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 18:03:24 GMT

iamhollywood5 wrote:

DLSV2 wrote:

traxxas58 wrote:

Petition for OP to simply get good?
A petition for morons to stop using the generic "Get good" comment in a thread about balance? I'd sign that.

Unfortunately I don't these herp derps will ever understand the concept that skill has absolutely nothing to do with it. If every player in MW3 has exactly the same skill level that wouldn't change the fact that the Type 95 makes every other gun pointless.

YOU are the one that doesn't understand that skill does matter. I can aim and shoot faster than someone with a Type 95 then I will kill them. I do this using a thing called SKILL. Therefore the Type 95 has never been a problem for me. If you completely out gun the opponent with tactics and aiming ability like I do then then opponent having a Type 95 doesn't make a difference so quit your bullshit.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:47:43 GMT

I support this, but I don't know whether dropping damage is a good idea. Not saying it won't fix it but if it fixes it TOO much. No gun should be useless. Whatever the MW3 devs come up with, i'm with... as long as it fixes the problem without making the gun useless.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 05:36:15 GMT

trialstardragon wrote:

Your response proves my point for me. You are just another person that does not like it when another gun can or may beat your chosen gun and game play. And you whine about it until the developers change the game to cater to you instead of learning how to adapt or change your playstyle when dealing wit them. You are so full of yourself and think that everyone else should change instead. Sure you can try and turn my words against me but still does not change the fact that you need the game changed for your way of playing. Where others do not need the change.

You refuse to realize that stats alone prove nothing about teh guns in this game. that a good player can use even bad guns and still do good. You just do not like the fact that any weapon may beat your weapon. And think that your range of play should not be affected by another weapon. Just the same as every other foolish rusher that cried about the FMG's being OP when they are not. They are just easy to use a certain ranges. But that does not now or ever make them OP. But because of stats alone you and the rest cry about it.

You do know that no one takes you and a few others seriously anymore, right? You say the exact same thing and people ALWAYS tell you that you are wrong.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 03:02:59 GMT

Your response proves my point for me. You are just another person that does not like it when another gun can or may beat your chosen gun and game play. And you whine about it until the developers change the game to cater to you instead of learning how to adapt or change your playstyle when dealing wit them. You are so full of yourself and think that everyone else should change instead. Sure you can try and turn my words against me but still does not change the fact that you need the game changed for your way of playing. Where others do not need the change.

You refuse to realize that stats alone prove nothing about teh guns in this game. that a good player can use even bad guns and still do good. You just do not like the fact that any weapon may beat your weapon. And think that your range of play should not be affected by another weapon. Just the same as every other foolish rusher that cried about the FMG's being OP when they are not. They are just easy to use a certain ranges. But that does not now or ever make them OP. But because of stats alone you and the rest cry about it.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:51:21 GMT

Didn't even read yet I know this will be the outcome:

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:48:54 GMT

The problem is these kids are fans of that one guy and his site. And any gun in any game that he rates as the best gun they come and cry it is OP and needs to be nerfed. Especially if its an AR and they like to run-n-gun rush with smg's.

They can not nor ever will understand that the stats alone do not make a gun good or not, it is the player using the gun that matters the most. All they see is numbers and cry because they do not like them, because taht weapon may be better than their chosen favorite weapon. When they could use it too; but do not want too so think they need to whine about it being OP.

Basicly any gun that has the potential to out do the gun that they like more is considered OP to them. And if they are a rusher that means any AR that can kill as fast or faster then SMG at SMG ranges.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:56:44 GMT

iamhollywood5 wrote:

Snipingdbag wrote:

Indeed, this said if the game worked properly the T95 would be too good cqb to mid but still too bad for what should be a burst fire gun long range. Either way it's a fun gun to use, as is the striker. Nerf these guns and all people would be using is fully auto noob cannons, mainly the acr / mp7 as they require little to no skill to handle (& pp90')..

The ACR and MP7 also need nerfs, but the Type 95 (and Striker) are far bigger problems right now

How so? It's quite clear to me that the ACR and MP7 get used way, way more extensively, since it takes so little skill to handle them and they are better all-round plus fully auto & little to no recoil is noob heaven. The t95 is a burst fire gun, that alone should mean it should be very powerful, more powerful than what it's now long range at least, maybe not as powerful close to mid as it's now, but who cares when lag comp gives me 90 hitmarkers per game on these 3 bar scrubs in his so said 2 bullet kill range, I want it to destroy you every time I aim at you faster for the burst firing limitations, having a great burst fire gun is Fun, so yeah take that nerf elsewhere as this game shouldn't become "fully auto noobs only".. The striker is the only shotgun that actually gets used, No nerf needed, It's what a shotgun should be like cqb and slightly further up the pitch, a beast. RF smgs are much easier to use on most maps regardless.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 24 Jan 2012 00:46:58 GMT

Ecliptix wrote:

Life.
Because I can't be bothered to waste my time in such a fashion.

Because claiming you have a life over the internet on a VIDEOGAME forum makes it sooo legitimate.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:37:18 GMT

Life.

Because I can't be bothered to waste my time in such a fashion.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:31:43 GMT

50calmastr wrote:
The acr is not OP

50calmastr wrote:
I use it all the time

Biased comment is biased.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:28:00 GMT

The acr is not OP, I use it all the time and I still end up 20-8 mp7 personally I have barely seen them, acrs are very bad cqc, and do not fare well against an fad, the AK has realistic recoil, ACR? Don't care if they up the recoil, but just because it's SLIGHTLY better makes people cry OP, let's go shooting marshmallows!

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:16:10 GMT

Exactly, and it's not Mother Of All Bombs, it's Massive Ordnance Air Blast

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:06:18 GMT

DLSV2 wrote:

iamhollywood5 wrote:

Unfortunately I don't these herp derps will ever understand the concept that skill has absolutely nothing to do with it. If every player in MW3 has exactly the same skill level that wouldn't change the fact that the Type 95 makes every other gun pointless.
That's the COD community for ya. 95% casuals and morons and 5% that actually have a brain.

And this is the only community where that 5% take in gun stats and excludes their personal experience with the gun. Others use Den or any other reference. Just sad.

Then, most have the arrogance to brag about how they deal with it and call it balanced on here. Sigh.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:51:37 GMT

The mk14 is not OP, it's trade-off is that it's a semi-auto and that it has crappy iron sights, in real life that thing can be switched to FULL-AUTO, imagine the mk14 firing like a m4a1, the t-95 only bothers me when noobs camp their @sses off with it and kill me in less than a burst, it does take some skill to use it but strap on a sight and camp and you're basically safe from all but strikers

Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:53:16 GMT

Alright everybody. Today the Type 95 got a "nerf." a pretty laughable "nerf." The only thing that was changed was the hip-fire spread. THIS IS NOT ENOUGH. The ADS Type 95 remains completely unchanged. If you are unaware, the Type 95 has the FASTEST time to kill in ANY COD GAME SINCE COD2. Without Rapid Fire it can kill in 0.06 seconds with extreme accuracy and ease. Put rapid fire on it and it's even worse - all 3 bullets are merged into 1 and it becomes a MK14 that can kill with 1 bullet to any part of the body. Not even the COD4 M16 with Stopping Power killed as fast as the Type 95. This video will show you how the Type 95 is statistically more OP than any gun in any COD ever:

Let's compare with the M16.

M16: 780 rpm within bursts, 40-25 damage (3-4 shot kill), higher recoil than Type 95.

Type 95: 1000 rpm within bursts, 55-20 damage (2-5 shot kill), lower recoil than M16.

Now, the fact that the Type 95 shoots so much faster than the M16 is a fair trade-off for taking 1 extra bullet to kill at long range. However it gets 2 EXTRA benefits: a 2 bullet kill up close, and less recoil. Rapid Fire on the type 95 also increases RoF by 18% while the M16 only gets a 9% increase with Rapid Fire.

If the M16 were a 3-4 shot kill with a slow RoF and the Type 95 were a 3-5 shot kill with a fast RoF, THAT WOULD BE BALANCE. Instead, there is currently absolutely no reason to use the M16, or hardly any other gun for that matter.

So, sign this petition if you would like to see the Type 95's damage reduced from 55-20 to 49-20, and I will add your name to the list.

Signers:

-Brandaman

-DavidIsofferman

-tacticalinfekt

-ashiddygamer

-platinumb

-thebiindsniper

-Deuscariot

-jassieray

-mobius48

-mrepictoast

-trollio

-Moon Head 92

-Kari M N

-Joe8beast

-Storm150

-XxBlindfire2Xx

-torana

-pokeshuriken

-jet04

-Xman64

-1firefury

-ZinnadineZidane

-killshot10

-technical

-snapr68

-Kingodrag

-DLSV2

-poklane

-rwjenny11

-Ecliptix*

*Wanted the Type 95 to be a 3HK but believes it has already been patched (even though it hasn't) so I take that as support.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:28:38 GMT

iamhollywood5 wrote:

Unfortunately I don't these herp derps will ever understand the concept that skill has absolutely nothing to do with it. If every player in MW3 has exactly the same skill level that wouldn't change the fact that the Type 95 makes every other gun pointless.

That's the COD community for ya. 95% casuals and morons and 5% that actually have a brain.

Re: Petition - Drop the damage on the Type 95

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:25:14 GMT

Snipingdbag wrote:

Indeed, this said if the game worked properly the T95 would be too good cqb to mid but still too bad for what should be a burst fire gun long range. Either way it's a fun gun to use, as is the striker. Nerf these guns and all people would be using is fully auto noob cannons, mainly the acr / mp7 as they require little to no skill to handle (& pp90')..

The ACR and MP7 also need nerfs, but the Type 95 (and Striker) are far bigger problems right now