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Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 15:47:55 GMT

I use TI in every game mode including KC and the best way to use it is sit on top, sorry to say.

First of all there are 3 ways to screw someone over who is sitting on a tactiacal:

1. Keep shooting after you kill them, it only takes a few bullets to destroy a TI.

2. Use some sort of explosive so it kills them and blows up the TI.

3. Get close to them, before killing. Then once they die you can quickly pick up there dogtag and destroy there TI or wait 2 seconds for them to spawn and get 2 tags off them.

I personally dont just run out and drop a TI and wait to die, i drop a TI then lay down while using assassin. Which makes you pretty much invisable to anybody not exspecting you to be there. I lay down get a few kills and eventually die, and try to respawn before someone can grab my tags. And even when i go 10 and 30 my team usually wins.

People are complaining because when boosters are on their team they are loosing?

I guess if they arnt even shooting at people i can understand.

But when i die 30 times 15 of those i pick back up myself and teammates usualy save a few for you as well. I usually despite being quite negative am the driving force for my team.

If you place your TI right you can usually not only respawn and save your dogtag but also get a quick revenge on the person who just killed you and collect his dogtag.

Using TI to collect your own dogtag is indeed quite "tactical" The only reason people ***** and moan about it is because you get 250 points each time you pick up your own tags which can equate to a hefty chunk pretty fast.

Removing TI from the game isnt the awnser by any means, reducing the point bonus to 100 would shut everyone up and is really the simpelest awnser.

If i were to be reset and temporarily banned for using my favorite equipment in my favorite gametype in a creative and "tactical" way ide be swaping mw3 for bf3 with a quickness.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:13:50 GMT

Aeon is exactly right. Ti is great when used in the hands of a skilled player. I used it all the time in blops inside the array tower and always went 3-0 in ghat level. Its great to spawn kill ppl.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:53:34 GMT

Lachrycide wrote:

4 Kills for his team is an excellent contribution for his team. 4 Golden tags he contributed, while 19 deaths = 4750XP for himself. Get real.

The objective is to get Golden tags, not get the most XP.

Not all tac users are that bad. People keep trying to make it sound like a tactic that always used by, and only by, poor players.

Fact is, when I use it, I go like 17 and 4, if I manage to get a good team, the people that simply run and gun and tag pickup whore, benefit from me XP wise, AND we win in a landslide.

Cheap? No, good teamwork. No less legit than good teamwork in any given playlist.

No worse than people who get a few tags and don't pick them up, they place a claymore or use a noob tube on the guy who show's up to grab them.

There are no cheap tactics. Only made-up morals perpetrated by little kids who are disgusted by people who like different things than they do.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:59:04 GMT

Seriously dude? How old are your? Have a think before you type something ok?

kourtvizion wrote:

Jdak10 has already posted:

From 402 twitter

In Kill Confirmed, if you die on purpose to pick up your dog tag, is that "boosting"?

Yes. Any form of killing yourself on purpose to gain score illegitimately is a form of boosting.

See the issue with this is that you are not killing yourself. Another person is killing you. So boosting no.

So does that mean boosting is not boosting??? Because another person is killing you???

The only difference is that in Kill Confirmed, you probably don't know the other person killing you.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:49:23 GMT

The whole game is actually about getting Golden dog tags. I'm getting sick of having to say this. The team to collect 65 golden dog tags first, wins. Not the team with the most XP.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 00:45:01 GMT

4 Kills for his team is an excellent contribution for his team. 4 Golden tags he contributed, while 19 deaths = 4750XP for himself. Get real.

The objective is to get Golden tags, not get the most XP.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:29:00 GMT

Excatly my point.why get mad when you not getting the tag and complain that he getting 250xp for getting his on tag

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:19:45 GMT

So the OP sniped this guy, waited for him to respawn, drop his tactical insert (which takes a few seconds), shot him again? rinse and repeat. Yet the sniper didn't bother to go get the tags? Didn't even bother to go stand behind him and kill him when he respawned? OP didn't bother to shoot him BEFORE the guy dropped another TI? Sounds to me like the OP was just in that game to get kills only, not playing as a teammate. Then he got mad because that guy got more points thern him? lol

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:42:15 GMT

Lachrycide wrote:

I think you need to pay attention. The OP was about somebody indiscriminately letting themselves get killed, in order to respawn and collect their own dog tags. Noone is saying that collecting your own dog tags is boosting. The problem here is that players are NOT killing their opponents. They are NOT contributing to the team goal, which is to collect 65 gold dog tags.

Jdak10 has already posted:

From 402 twitter

In Kill Confirmed, if you die on purpose to pick up your dog tag, is that "boosting"?

Yes. Any form of killing yourself on purpose to gain score illegitimately is a form of boosting.

I don't want some guy on my team, rocking the Tac Insert next to the bulldozer in Mission, so the sniper up the top of the map can assist him with some cheap XP, while everyone else is completing the objective - COLLECT THE GOLDEN DOG TAGS!

If you use your Tac Insert in such a way as to prevent the opponent from collecting your dog tags, and you still contribute to the generating and collection of golden tags, then awesome, that's smart, logical gameplay, and I hope I get you on my team next time.

If you have no other goal than to die and collect your own dog tags, then you are boosting. As stated in the above twitter.

The OP clearly stated that the person went 4-18 or 4-19(cannot remember), so in fact he was not just standing there dieing, he was in fact playing the game with a certain stategy in mind. I absolutely suck at this game and have gone 4-18 before, does that mean I'm boosting? It is a stategy to gain more points and if you do it with a team of six it works out great.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 19:09:30 GMT

I dont get why anyone cares about htis. It destroyes their overall k/d and they get at best 2000 more xp than the actual best players. Also those other players probrally got most of that 2k extra XP from killstreaks anyways so the "boosters" are doing no better then the top players.

You think hey will level that fast from this? People level faster through a combination of challenges and doing well in game for in game XP.

Now the problem could be if they do it whle having double XP. Cause then instead of getting 5k they will be getting 10k. But then again their K/D is being destroyed. By the time they get half way to prestige 10 their K/D will be .50 at best. Most likely less.

They do this for what? To get to prestige 10 faster? Ok so their be a level 80 prestige 10 with a K/D .50 and most likely a W/L of 5%.

Ive seen countless people doing this and I just kill them and then kill them again and then take their tag. Th outcome is the same they just get some extra points iftheir good at it.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:44:03 GMT

I think this is a non-issue. This is a long and boring way for someone to try and presitge up. Plus they have to do it for so long if they are trying to hit max prestige, which I assume is the point. If someone is that bad at the game and feels that prestiging up gives him some sort of satisfaction then so be it. He doesn't help his team in Kill Confirmed and it doesn't neccessarily take anything away from the other team. I guess you could just take the gift of being able to kill him as many times as you can before time runs out as a bonus. At the end of the day I don't care who is prestige X, Y or Z. Just play and have fun and stop worrying about everybody else. If you aren't getting paid to play and you aren't having fun, what is the point of playing in the first place? Hang your hat on doing it the honest way. Play with friends you enjoy to play with and don't sweat all the random people....-inC

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:41:19 GMT

Wow calm down big boy, how is the view from up there on your pedestal? It has nothing to do with gameplay. There is no tactic or strategy involved in placing a TI just so you can die and reclaim your tags.

I don't care if someone does this because all it is going to do is net me a ton of kills and make it more fun when I shut them down. In every game I've played against these people they have lost. So if it results in your team's loss, explain to me how this is an effective strategy?

The debate is whether or not its boosting, exploiting, etc. You are entitled to your opinion but trying to manipulate the post to cater your rant is irrelevant. You probably defended button clan tags too and we know how that story turns out.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the verdict is.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:30:47 GMT

These is a 50/50 argument nobody is going to win. Just play the game stop complaning that somebody got more points than you but you got more kills. by the time you pick and choose what right we won't have a game to play. the only way to make it fair it's to give everyone the same weapons and perks ect

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:18:40 GMT

oXJeminiXo wrote:

If you are mad at there score then play smarter and harder.

People in this forum are incapable of that. Solution to a Tag camper? An explosive, kill the guy, destroy the tac insert. Problem solved, tag gained.

The complaining about smart playing in this forum is ridiculous. Umpteen threads a day about how bad campers are, how over powered Assassin is. All stupefyingly ignorant.

People keep trying to pretend that the game should be played ONLY how they want people to play it. It's like making a pretend rule in basketball where you can ONLY shoot half court shots on some sort of honor system, nothing the referee can do anything about if someone doesn't, people just suddenly aren't cool if they cross the line. It's a stupid high school popularity contest combined with some wet dream of romance and kids thinking they're filed with honor.

That's what happens when mommy gives her over testosteroned teenager free reign with a computer and the internet and uses the xbox as a babysitter.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 17:09:46 GMT

We are on the same page about this my friend but lets get it straight. Its not boosting. You are dying within the normal course of game. You aren't killing yourself, you arent running infront of bullets. Someone who you do not know is aiming at your and firing.

You can't predict every movement of every player. So if I run at someone and do not fire a shot with the intention of knifing him and he kills me, are we boosters? because I didnt fire a shot and he killed me. By your logic we should both be banned.

I don't like sitting on tact insertions in kill confirmed. Its a cheesy way to not help your team but gain points. Points should be rewarded to people who help the team the most. The greater the action that helps the team, the more you should get rewarded. In my opinion.

They are gaming the system but like other systems in life its up to the system to fix the loophole. IW should take action on making this behaviour less bountiful. Not punish those who are doing it. Clearly there is no outline that says do not use the tactical insertion in these game modes in this method. That is ludacris. If you put the equipment in a game mode all uses should be acceptable. If IW doesnt think so, spend a little more time thinking about things before you put out a flawed system.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:50:36 GMT

Interesting, I thought stepping in front of a moving vehicle was considered suicide. Pretty much the same thing if you set up a TI in the middle of crossfire.

Let's not pretend this is some genius tactical revelation. Someone found a way to game the system, period. I doubt this ever crossed IW's mind but put 9 million sets of eyes on a game and people will always find a shortcut.

It's relatively harmless with one guy in a game doing it but what would happen if everyone starts doing it?

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:43:44 GMT

I understand why you guys think this is cheating but seriously I don't see where it is cheating. Basically if he went 4-18 he actually went 4 and 9 because people actually wait for the respawn to kill them. I could see if the guy went 0-22 and made no attempt to kill the other team but they are not. Alot of people can run around like a mad man so this is kc camping. If you are mad at there score then play smarter and harder.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:42:38 GMT

timetokill360 wrote:

Why does anyone care that the person using this "tactic" is getting an excessive amount of xp. This has no real impact on you. So what if they rank up faster. The real issue is that such players make no contribution to the team.

If the tac user kills and his team mates grab the gold tags, he does make a contribution.

It can be made to work for the team better than running around like a headless chicken being a tag pickup whore.

It's no more boosting than getting headshots on purpose, or capping Dom positions when you're already in the lead, or simply using hardline/specialist, or even picking up tags from other people's kills.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:36:53 GMT

Why does anyone care that the person using this "tactic" is getting an excessive amount of xp. This has no real impact on you. So what if they rank up faster. The real issue is that such players make no contribution to the team.

Re: boosting or just lazy?

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 16:10:53 GMT

Jdak10 has already posted:

From 402 twitter

In Kill Confirmed, if you die on purpose to pick up your dog tag, is that "boosting"?

Yes. Any form of killing yourself on purpose to gain score illegitimately is a form of boosting.

See the issue with this is that you are not killing yourself. Another person is killing you. So boosting no.