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Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:51:49 GMT

Welcome to Black Ops. Youll grow to love it even more.

As for the orginal post, while this would seem like a good way to call players out they will never admit to leaving games because they're losing. They will get trolled so hard that we might make them commit suicide(no joke), i mean they already care alot so much about a virtual game that they find ways/reasons to make excuses when things aren't going their way that we will shatter and break their little minds when we make fun of them for doing so.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:24:53 GMT

If this was MW3 then I'll be dashboarding everytime I feel like I'm on the receiving end of its broken lag compensation. I haven't quit a game on BLOPS and I just started yesterday. It's a breath of fresh air playing BLOPS and the maps were really good and enjoyable.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:13:08 GMT

If its just a game for fun why do these boosting cowards need to play a ranked mode. I would like to see the join any ranked league like darts, bowling, tennis and walk out of their games 2:1 and tell the organization and their opponents its just a game to have fun. Ignorance is bliss, if your foolish enough to boost by leaving a game and ruining the fun for others as you are usually host, I hope you get banned. Boostin, modifying the game and leaving a ranked match early are against the code of conduct and if you do not agree to the code of conduct and are too ignorant to know the difference between a private and ranked game you deserve to be banned. Leave a match early reets your K/D and is a form of boosting.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:21:25 GMT

I encounter this a lot actually. One game, i can drop people with one burst from the M16 ACOG, or have a three bullet spray from the FAMAS and kill just as quickly, but the next game, when host changes..i end up getting the worst end of it. I will never understand having to unload a whole clip into someones mouth before they die?

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:40:53 GMT

Well it is quite clear the majority of posters who have responded in this thread, either can't read or are little on the challenged side :P

So let me try this in idiot speak.

1. Yes the game suffers from LAG
2. Yes People quit because of LAG which is fair enough, no one is disputing this. (but we can all get LAG on either team be it the winning team or the loosing team)

So that's the LAG problem cleared up.

Now onto what the post is about.

1. Lots of people say they quit because of the LAG (again fair enough) but of these quitters how many actually only Dashboard when there on the loosing team? and when a enemy Huey is inbound?
2. All I asked was all the People claiming they only Quit due to LAG then post your GT and others can look and will clearly see you do quit (which is already admitted) but it should show that you quit just as many games where you are on the winning team as you do when on the Loosing team (LAG does not know what team your on)

So the point of the thread is basically if you claim to quit because of LAG and LAG only regardless of which team you are on (winning or loosing or when enemy has called in air support) then show us, this will verify you are telling the truth and not jumping on the LAG bandwagon andfare genuinely quitting because of game issues and it has nothing to do with K/D.

I think only two have posted their GT's and both admit they quit for various reasons (being knifed ect) i.e rage quit, which happens if your winning or loosing as the rage takes over, not just using LAG as an excuse as your team are getting beaten.

Or maybe you are quitting because of LAG when only loosing, but LAG in this case is (Lame Ass Gamer)

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:37:07 GMT

I opt out of games when the lag/latency issues are too much (and I can handle a little lag just fine) but sometimes it's a big shitfest where you can only kill something through ambush and that's not the way the game's supposed to be played.
So when I know I'm not doing anything for the team only feeding kills to the enemy or hiding somewhere I perceive it as a wise decision to give my slot to someone who can actually get hitmarkers to register.
I actually never rage out to dashboard ,only leave the game through -start.
I think dashing out should be penalized for sure.
RuÃ¯ning someone elses game is just a dick move.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 11:33:07 GMT

I played MW2 for 27 days and never had the lag issues this game is throwing up on the same connection. People who say "get a better connection" probably don't realise that their connection is actually pretty lousy and they are getting all the lag compensation whereas the people with the solid 4 bar connections and low latency get all the frustration as the game penalises them by putting them a second behind. A lot of people will quit when they are on the winning team when the lag gets out of hand.

I've got a decent connection and an excellent ping which serves me well in MW2, Halo Reach and others, but this game feels it should reward the crap connections. Most split screeners dont have enough bandwidth to support one player properly and adding two into the mix is asking for trouble. Double lag compensation all round I think. My suggestion would be to turn it off, let the people with bad connections suffer for them, it works in any other game.

There are way too many threads on way too many forums for Treyarch not to acknowledge there is an issue with their netcode.

All the money they make, all the money this game will make and we couldn't even have a beta.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:42:50 GMT

I don't quit, but my games are always laggy because of lag switch, or complete lag and it shows the cord icon being unplugged.
1 out of 3 games someone apparently unplugs there cord temporarily and it becomes lagged out for a couple seconds, or someone unplugs their cord and doesn't plug it back in and the game ends...
About 5 matches ago, i was playing on a snow map, forgot the name, and within the first minute I had received a care package that gave me the chopper gunner, after 3 kills with the gunner, the unplugged cord icon popped up, and the game ended -.-

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:25:06 GMT

OP is a ***.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:22:32 GMT

Why wouldn't I leave because of lag? I mean, the game is not very fun when you turn a corner and see a guy and before you can even pull the trigger, you fall down dead because he saw you a full second sooner. When there is not way you can get a kill except walk up on a camper with their back turned it kind of takes the fun out. Why get all pissed off? Just quit out and start a new game to see if you get a better connection.

The thing is, if you notice, a vast majority of deathmatch games are extremely one sided, which means the game is set up to allow one team have a huge connection advantage over the other. It's kind of a piece of **** game actually, there is really no incentive to achieve anything beyond being patient enough to max level. Why even prestige or keep going? You've played all the maps and earned everything else. Why go through the headache of the game cheating you out of fun in order to achieve the same things again?

Sad thing is, they probably did not make a punishment system for quitting out because they knew people would be doing it a lot given the fact that they made it all fucky.

Even Halo doesn't lag near this bad anymore.

Not impressed with this game at all for online play. Seems like they just threw it together like the last one they made and did not make any imporvements to online matchmaking.

Graphic designers and animation guys at Treyarch get an A+++, very hard workers.
Netwoking team get an F- - - - - - - . Lazy ******** who are bringing the team down.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 10:02:12 GMT

I leave when ever i want to leave.
You waving your 2inch weiner about ain't going to make me do things differently.

Me giving you my GT? Hell no. I've got nothing to hide, nor anything to show.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:50:47 GMT

i only leae for a few reasons
1 i join 3/4 of the way through the match and leave fair enough
2 i join a lobby start the game and everyone has a fine connection then the host migrates and it gives host to the one american in a lobby of new zealanders and we all get red bar
3 my friend invites me
4 i vs a whole team of campers or drop shoters
i personally think there should be a punishment somthing like
1st quit nothing 2nd 10 min of not being able to find games then it doubles for every time you quit within say 12 hours
as for dashboarders 1st offence 1 hour of not playing 2nd 24 hours you have to be tough or they wont get the message

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:14:34 GMT

bryanaf101 wrote:

my k/d is over 2.8...20k kills...I quit because of lag and cheaters...guys running around with weapons that have no recoil...not because I am losing....generally, I am losing because of lag and/or cheaters...

No recoil is only in killcams...you lose, because other players are better...

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:11:21 GMT

spawn camping makes me quit, i like to play instead of watching teammates getting spawn killed for 15 seconds just to spawn in, die instantly and watch the same thing all over, why does modern warfare2 and black ops encurage such a s**tty tactic why lower the standards from cod4 and waw? i never had spawn issues on the older games -.- game developers are just getting too f**king lazy but still willing to charge silly money for incomplete products!!! RRP for a game of this quality doesnt even deserve to be Â£15 if the staff dont even work for there money!!! im no game developer but atleast i know what a good map size and layout would be -.- give us the tools to make our own maps tbh

yeah yeah i know i went well off topic im to f**king bored woke up to early and not got work for 3 hours

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:58:07 GMT

kevo9359 wrote:

Wanna know a reason why i quit out of matches? I'm not gonna lie like they do. There are matches that i get sht on, so i leave, or I have horrible teammates that play headquarters or dom to get kills instead of actually playing the objective.

welcome to the great noobish world of Headquartes, the most noob friendly game mode out there!

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:53:04 GMT

Not for nothing but you may be taking this game a little too seriously.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 06:36:28 GMT

ShaGGy_UK wrote:

Captain Rufas wrote:

To the OP - stop being a self-important pr^ck. I'm glad the lag compensation engine is working out for you. For many others, it is not.

If you choose to not believe me or others, I could give a rats ass. But it would be civil of you to at least pretend to give a sh*t about the community, instead of looking for ways to tear it down.

YOUR game company will not succeed - if you want to work on penalties and other ways to remove the fun from life, you should look towards law enforcement or politics. Troll my gamertag if you want, I don't care - it's nothing special.

You need to stop being a little one, if you actually read the topic you will see I say yes LAG does exist, the point of the thread is the number of peeps (like yourself) who constantly jump into these threads and talk crap saying LAG causes you to quit and nothing to do with being on the loosing team, which quite frankly is bull

Come post your gamertag let us see if you only quit while on the loosing team, post gamertag or shut up and carry making excuses for dashboarding.

I read the topic. You've heard plenty from more eloquent posts than mine, and listened to little. I'll spell it out again, but you'll ignore again I'm sure. Your whole topic is a lure - you are a troll under the bridge looking for people to poke at.

1) The Lag Compensation system is fubar. It causes some people to be up to a second behind others - I don't claim to know if this is an exploit, a bug, or just crappy.
2) People who are on the crap end of the lag compensation are unable to compete.
    2a) Unable to kill, yet easily killed means you are losing.
    2b) Unable to kill, yet easily killed means you are not having fun either.
    2c) THIS PERSON WILL LEAVE THE GAME.
4) When you are the opponent of somebody who is screwed by the lag compensation, you will win the battle every time.
    4a) They are losing or winning, does not matter because they are having fun.
    4b) THIS PERSON RARELY LEAVES.
5) When the lag compensation is not screwing up the game, there is no reason to leave. I certainly don't.

Okay this is all really basic, and I'd like to just assume it's common knowledge. Human behavior 101 - do stuff you like, don't do stuff that sucks. But you the OP, claim that either the lag does not exist (you rebutted this already), or that we don't mind the lag - its just the losing. If we could somehow lag around the place without getting a kill but win, we would stay?    hello?

I'm not sure how you intend to deduce better than I by looking at 20 screens of stats. And we've all seen the "lag video's" which are all but laughable - they cannot begin to demonstrate the issue. A capture card is needed to show the discrepancy between opponents.

Theater view only shows what the host saw. It doesn't show one guy firing two clips into the other guy (with no kill), because as far as the game is concerned - IT DID NOT HAPPEN. Do you understand? The complaint is that something is missing (my bullets) - I'm standing there like a jack*ss on theater, yet in game I'm shooting like it's 4th of July.

So again, my combat record is nothing special - nor are my recent games. I'm not hiding, but I choose not to hand my gamertag over to you - who are just looking for somebody to tear down. My gamertag is common knowledge though, as are many of the others posting about this. If you took the time to get to know the people around you, you'd already have your answers.

BTW I fully expect you to ignore the core of this post, which is to explain that your whole witch-hunting premise is flawed. This is here as bait to get you to respond with something other than, "Come post your gamertag let us see if you only quit while on the loosing team, post gamertag or shut up and carry making excuses for dashboarding."

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:33:00 GMT

Everyone has the right to quit.

Deal with it.

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:19:10 GMT

I never once ragequit on MW2 or Cod4..I dont' do that...but when I shoot somebody 20 times and none of them count and I'm inexplicably dead...that's where I draw the line. This game is trash. Great idea, great on paper, but apparently Limeys can't code a network. Lag compensation is the biggest bunch of garbage I've ever heard of.
Typical convo at Treyarch:
"I say Pendleton, how about we program the most annoying thing about shooters INTO the game."
"Good show old boy, my my Reginald, you sure are a genius, I'm all for programming lag into our game. Now those bloody Americans will have to deal with **** networking like we live with in the UK every day."
"Pip pip, it's not like it matters that we've programmed lag in old boy, it'll sell anyway because it's called Call of Duty, just like our sub par release WaW, they're going to lag all over the place. Gewd show, gewd show."

Re: A challenge to all you Quitters using the LAG excuse

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 05:11:09 GMT

KLKapone11 wrote:

this thread is stupid

my gt is: L A G

im the reason why you quit

haha hilarious

honestly i dont give a sh** if im losing a game or not... i play clan based games such as sabotage where TSgD is 87-13 and that is the ONLY time i care about wins or losses... your win ratio has very little to do with how good you are at the game... K/D ratio means EVERYTHING... mine is 1.52 and i couldnt tell you what the heck my win record is lol

i am very legit at the game and I quit when i get invites to other games just as long as it is within the 1st few minutes... who quits to only lose 10g's of XP???

if you quit because youre losing the game, get your dweeb a** out of here lol pretty sure ppl dont quit when theyre losing the match, ppl quit when they are completely negative on thier KD for the match and when the lag is unbarable.....

look at you XBOX harda** bullying cyber nerds cuz they dont finish a game theyre gettin smacked in... but you guys care that much huh? lol get a life fellas, and delete this thread, youre embarrassin yourselves