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Re: New to Competitive CoD

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:18:01 GMT

With the current matchmaking system, lag comp issues and general lag issues, this game is as far from competitive as it gets.

I recommend playing on the PC if you want proper competitive gaming. Console gaming isn't anywhere near as competitive, at least not this franchise (Especially this title).

Fanboys will probably try and defend it by saying how smooth the game works for them, but that's just them, not the majority of the playerbase. If every single player would've voiced their feelings on this game, it'd get pretty nasty around here (Well, nastier than it currently is anyway).

More hacks and cheats on the PC you say? Up untill about a couple years back, i'd agree with you, but after seeing so many bogus players on the console (Especially in COD titles), i'm gonna go with no. They are raping the consoles as well these days (Waiting for that/those muppet(s) with a stick up their ugly rear screaming there's no cheaters on Xbox/PS3 yada yada, i've already proven they're out there in another topic).

I've already gone back to my computer, where i can at least play games on dedicated servers (Oh no, he mentioned the two magical words, dedicated servers!), and wut! No Lag! No lag compensation, and what's that? Oh a server browser where i can find a server matching my connection giving me a stable ping and no host migration! Wow, who would've thought! I for one can't wait to see the fanboys reply to this. Claiming the game is near perfect in every aspect, then proceeding to report any negative comments.

Alright, there may be a few players able to play "competitively" (Yeah they would say it's competitive if they never have any issues, but only untill they face these issues on a regular basis themselves!), but that's only on their end. The players they face are usually the guys who gets raped by the illogical spawn system, the lag comp and the fact that they're playing against players way out of their own region giving them a crap connection.

I doubt even the fanboys knows what competitive gaming means. I'd love to see any one of them comment about that. Cause it seems whenever someone's having a complaint about the game lagwise etc, they show their ugly selves and scream out that there's nothing wrong with the game, and that they can play the game perfectly.

That doesn't make it competitive. Competitive means that we're all seeing the same thing, and that everything that happens during a game, happens at the same time for everyone. It means that everyone is playing on an even battlefield.

Good luck staying competitive in this title if you're giving it a go. I for one am through with 3arch and Activision in general. They know how to make the game, they just don't know the requirements of making their games competitive.

Re: What _I _don't_ understand_ about _multiplayer _is _that _you _can _only _play _with _people _from _your _own _country. If_ that _is_ true _then _why. I_ would _love_ to_ play_ against_ Americans_ but _can_ only_ play _against _Aussies.

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:17:53 GMT

DR65DR wrote:

It isn't true at all. I get into lobbies full of Europeans and I'm connecting from the UK.

You do realise where you went wrong there, right?

Re: Are there people out there who have no problems with this game?

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:43:04 GMT

Good for you, you're able to play the game it's meant to be played. There are those who are lucky and have evaded all the gamebreaking issues, but the majority are having serious issues with the multiplayer aspect of the game, with lag, matchmaking and lag comp.

Those of us who are having serious issues with the aforementioned systems in multiplayer are starting to tire from the devs constantly ignoring us, and the fanboys defending the devs at all cost.

If it weren't for the horrible matchmaking, the lame P2P host system, host migration, horrible lag comp, we'd see a much better game, perhaps on dedicated servers.

Yeah yeah i know, some fanboy with a stick up his rear will claim that dedicated servers doesn't solve anything, well GTFO already and for once, show some proof that it doesn't change anything, at least when you're trying to discuss it with someone who's been a server admin for several years in COD4/BF2 who's never experienced any lag untill i started playing FPS on the console.

I just hope the next COD (Most likely on the Next Gen Xbox) comes out with a server browser (Where you can find servers based on your ping) and dedicated servers to boot. The whole P2P server hosting is the worst thing to ever be introduced into the FPS genre.

Until then, enjoy the game while your luck last. I'm done with FPS games on the console untill they provide us with proper server browsers in their games and dedicated servers (The way it's ment to be for FPS games). For now, FPS gaming on the computer seems more fun, and a lot more competitive/balanced due to rental/dedicated server hosting.

Re: Vahn hints at something special happening Monday? Twitter link included.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:22:26 GMT

codchamp wrote:

maybe his big news is that he quit treyarch

You know what, that'd make my friggin day, it seriously would. Even better, he quit 3arch and joined DICE. Sadly, i doubt that's the case

Re: Vahn hints at something special happening Monday? Twitter link included.

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 11:20:14 GMT

randomhero204 wrote:

14 million people

Wonder how you came up with that number....

Re: why do players hate quickscopers

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:27:40 GMT

Run_N_Gunning_Camper wrote:

That's their old opinion. Things change over time. They even patched the snipers in BO1 that improved the sniper rifles.

Again, got a link for Bo2? No?

They changed their opinion based on the crying kids flooding their forums day in, day out, cause they couldn't quick-scope anymore.

Re: why do players hate quickscopers

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:20:08 GMT

Adam1234567893 wrote:

They hate quickscopers because it messes with their ability to camp when they see a sniper they expect you to pull out your secondary or die so they get pissed if someone outplays them using a skill that took someone a long time to perfect. On top of that they can't quickscope themselves so they go on these forums and lie and cry until they ruin this game for everyone else by getting their way. Right now people who complain about quickscoping don't have an excuse anymore of how it's an exploit because aim assist was taken off the snipers so now they are doing the next best thing and calling them "overpowered" so basically they are lying to get their way yet again because they are garbage players.

*Yawn*

Same old excuse, trying to justify quick-scoping. It never gets old.

The reason most of us hate quick-scopers in objective games is because they don't do s*** when it comes to playing the objective. They avoid the objectives at all cost so they can focus on quick-scoping rather than playing the objectives. Some suck at it, some are decent, but they all do the same, run around the objectives and camp a spot to do their quick-scoping crap.

Overpowered? Yeah, when you can take out multiple targets in CQC with a sniper rifle in fast succession, it is, but that's not the most annoying part, the most annoying part is what i mentioned above.

Garbage players? So i'm a garbage player for wanting these quick-scoping kids to do the objective and help their team? The only one's that are garbage are the quick-scoping kids who avoid the objectives at all cost.

Re: why do players hate quickscopers

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:07:45 GMT

rdnsnow wrote:

If it wasn't for auto aim people wouldn't qscope as much because it would be too hard.

Exactly, and more so due to the thumbsticks and the fact that they're way too innacurate for quick-scoping compared to the PC versions where you've got a mouse.

Re: why do players hate quickscopers

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 28 Jan 2013 07:01:36 GMT

iivrruummii wrote:

People think it takes no skill because it is a OHK. It is much harder now. No Aim Assist, like people wanted. Slower draw time. Slower movement speeds. I mean if people keep on asking for nerfs then snipers will become more useless than there were in BO.

Snipers won't become more useless, the quick-scopers will become more useless. Give the snipers an even longer ADS time and there won't be any quick-scopers left, cause they'll have gone back to MW2/MW3. Which to be honest, would be the best thing to happen to this game.

In BO1, snipers were better, cause you actually had to full-scope to use them properly.

A game without quick-scopers is a good game. This game however, caters for the kids in a way i've never seen in any other game that has an 18+ PEGI sticker on it.

I'd say it's time they started to cater for the grown ups a bit more (Last time i checked, it does say 18+ on the cover!). Snipers are meant to be used as long-range tactical weapons, and there's nothing tactical about bunnyjumping/doing 360 spins and quick-scoping during an objective game whatsoever.

Re: What time does double xp start today (16th november)???

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 25 Jan 2013 11:27:13 GMT

rambosdad360 wrote:

I would also like to know what time double XP kicks off in UK

Nice necro of the thread.

This was a thread made in November.

Re: I love the game but....

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 23 Jan 2013 04:22:12 GMT

That's the league ranks.

Re: New hotfix but hosting still sux!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:30:28 GMT

Would be nice with something of a patch/update notes list.

If there is, i haven't found it. Must be well hidden.

Re: dear activision and everyone else involved in the online aspect of this game

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 12:22:46 GMT

nicedrewishfela wrote:

All Online games have Lag. We are all hoping to see continued improvement.

Try playing COD4 on the PC using a server browser and look for servers that has decent pings. I guarantee you the only lag you'd get is coming from your computer or your own interal network.

The whole "All online games have lag". is getting old, and it definitely is wrong. It is wrong when you never even consider games that have server browsers that lets you connect to a dedicated server that shows a low ping, and dedicated servers with an auto-kick function for players with pings above the 100-125ms mark.

I was really surprised to see that there were no rentable servers for the FPS games on the console and games with no server browser. It's one way of removing any competitive aspect of FPS gaming, i'll tell you that much, having played competitively on the PC for years in EGL and on Clanbase with ZERO lag due to the fact that we could pick our oponents based on their location.

Sadly the FPS gaming on the PC has become too much infected by cheaters compared to the consoles. Which is why i stopped playing on the PC. If it wasn't, i'd still be doing FPS gaming on the PC. Well, COD4/MW2 mostly anyway, since they decided to no longer support rental servers (Another step to completely ruin the competitive aspect of FPS gaming).

Now, with the current system allowing these raging s***kids to dashboard, only to punish everyone in their lobby, teammates alike, giving them a loss and ruining everyone's W/L ratio (I for one care more about that than my K/D ratio), as well as the matchmaking system and lag comp, they have completely removed any competitive aspect from the game.

A system that didn't penalize anyone BUT the dashboarder would be nice. A system that would let us chose which region to match up with would be AWESOME. A host migration system that actually works would be awesome, and one that actually picks the best host, even better. A lag comp that doesn't overcompensate and doesn't show two entirely different sides of the same gunfight but shows the exact same thing would be great... Sadly, none of the current systems are working as "intended".

If you think that the lag comp is intended to show two entirely different scenarios within the same gun fight, you're way off. Just saying since some thinks that it's the way it is supposed to be working. If that actually is intended, then that's just another hit to the competitive aspect of the game.

I never saw a kill cam on COD4/MW2 on the PC showing two different scenarios for that matter, which brings me back to the competitive aspect of an FPS game, which is to be able to use ones skills to his/her fullest potential.

It's impossible on the console right now due to the aforementioned issues. ZERO competitiveness. What you see, is not what i see, and as such, if i am lagging behind, i'll never even see you coming, due to the lag comp overcompensating for something i reckon would be me or my oponents crap connection, or due to the distance between us.

I know, the game hasn't been out for "that" long but come on, someone in their quality insurance dept must be sacked for letting this unfinished product.

I'm not complaining here though, just pointing out the facts, my own experience, and the obvious flaws in the current systems being used, unless you fanboys are too thickheaded to admit anything you're wrong about. If so, then i pity you

Re: dear activision and everyone else involved in the online aspect of this game

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 22 Jan 2013 11:42:18 GMT

Restore_Hardcore wrote:

If lag is bringing you down then I suggest hardcore, the effects of lag are less cause of the bullet damage. That's the only way I can stand to play this game cause core has too many issues. I guarantee you will feel like the game is a lot better when you shoot your gun and actually kill someone with one to two shots instead of unloading clips only to have the guy you're shooting turn around and shoot you. There is an adjustment period cause HC is different, but it's well worth it. Good luck either way.

Hard Core isn't worth it if you're already having issues in core, lagging behind other players. It actually puts you at a huge disadvantage in Hard Core.

Tried it and i couldn't even get a single kill. I saw myself putting several bullets into my enemy, while on the killcam, he had already killed me before i had started shooting.

Definitely not better for everyone.

Re: Holy h***, there are a ton of hacks for this game out there....

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:26:59 GMT

starbuckfrack wrote:

Any grade school programmer knows the Xbox 360 doesnt have executable files.

.XEX is the name for the Xbox 360 executables. It's an executable designed specifically for the Xbox 360.

Their basically the same as .exe files but just rewritten for the Xbox.

Re: Holy h***, there are a ton of hacks for this game out there....

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:19:41 GMT

halfaspoon wrote:

I havent seen one hack yet..and this is coming from someone who was a moderator for a COD4 PC server. a hack would look like someone hipfiring and getting a rolling feed of headshots of instant snapping. 6+ headshots in a killcam constantly.

not meant as a response to person above me..these forums are so wonky -.-

Message was edited by: halfaspoon

I was a server admin for 20 COD4 and 30 Battlefield 2 servers in a huge gaming community for years, and you're right about one thing but that only counts for aimbots. There are other hacks that aren't as obvious and easy to spot, like map-hacks, UAV hacks and other minor cheats.

I've seen stuff through PBScreens that'd make you cry. I've seen battle recordings that'd make you sick to your stomach. I've seen some sick stuff for the Xbox as well.

It's easy to see if a vid is displaying a cheater on the Xbox 360 as there will be icons that are specific to the Xbox 360 for interacting with ingame objects (X or A in COD's case) and i've seen vids where these icons are displayed, so those claiming that 99% are from the PC are wrong. Do more RESEARCH!

Even lost a couple of friends because they had the nerve to mod their Xbox (Wasn't sure if i should post it but at this point with all these morons in denial in here, i had to) and cheat in COD4/MW2/MW3 (I caught them red-handed so, don't bother to continue this whole Xbox has no cheaters bla bla BS any further).

Last i heard they did it in Black Ops 2 as well.

It's hard to get these players banned because it's a tedious procedure. First you need more than just one report on them, secondly you need to have several reports from different people using the ingame report system.

These guys i mentioned are members in several cheating communities online and they pay a small fee, gets a working hack for their modded Xbox and voila. Get it? Now, for those claiming that their hacks are free, are usually full of BS. 1: Their hacks are rarely free, and in most cases the're trojans. This much is true, but the paid ones are never trojans. They're being made by clever guys sitting infront of their computer raging about the day they got outplayed by an honest player (Most likely!).

These guys don't get banned over night. Some may even be untouchable for a whole year, maybe even longer, depending on how many reports are sent in and how fast the game gets updated and how fast a new cheat is out to counter the patch (New cheats come out pretty much the same day/week a new patch is out to counter the cheaters).

The fact is that they're there, regardless of how much you deny it.

It's not expensive to mod an Xbox, and it's far from difficult to set it up and use paid for hacks to cheat online. Tons of tutorials on how to do it properly, sadly.

I'm done with this discussion. No point arguing with brainwashed people or people trying to defend their fellow hackers by claiming there's no such thing on XBL. Microsoft knows they're out there, the game devs knows they're out there. They just can't stop them permanently.

Good day.

Re: Holy h***, there are a ton of hacks for this game out there....

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 19 Jan 2013 20:03:50 GMT

Rednecksniper39 wrote:

As others have said 99% of hacks are for PC. To get hacks to work on Xbox to work you need a Jtag. You are lucky to used an Xbox with one for an hour before Xbox Live console bans you. You can't just download a hack for Xbox. All those downloads are are viruses and spam that people want you to download so they get money. The Aimbots, Wall Hacks, God Mode, etc... videos that people show on Youtube are clearly from PC. You can tell by how the people move. When tey look around it is more snappy instead of a fluid movement.

Sorry but you've no idea what you're talking about

How exactly is it that you can "tell by how the people move"?

I'm sorry but you need to try a bit harder and do a bit more research before you try to deny the facts.

Re: Dashboarding is a MASSIVE problem in Black Ops 2!!!More than ever imo.

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:39:01 GMT

Drummin wrote:

Because that game won't count if they dashboard. Helps thier win/loss and k/d. Pretty childish in my opinion. What I'd you could dashboard your job when things aren't going right.

No, dashboarding doesn't help with their W/L ratio. If you dashboard, you get a loss (Defeat) added to your ratio. Sadly, when the host dashboards, everyone else in that game gets a Defeat added to their ratio as well.....

Re: Dashboarding is a MASSIVE problem in Black Ops 2!!!More than ever imo.

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:38:13 GMT

OMFGimJOE wrote:

I dont even do it to preserve stats. I couldnt care less about stats.

It just my version of a rage quit.

Its especially awesome when Im host

Well, that's just being childish then. If you rage quit that often then you might want to consider playing something else. Something that's not multiplayer related.

Your dashboarding whilst being the host impacts not only the shitkids but everyone who tries to win on their team and your own team in terms of W/L.

Yeah, i really would like to see a more severe punishment for dashboarders. Maybe a week ban if they constantly does it while being host. I know, sounds harsh but i'm so fed up with dashboarding kids i'd rather have them banned for a week at a time seeing as they do it every time they get killed one time too many during a match.

Re: Dashboarding is a MASSIVE problem in Black Ops 2!!!More than ever imo.

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 18 Jan 2013 16:03:49 GMT

WEBMASSTER wrote:

LOL, the more I read forums I realize there are alot of people that have just started playing Call Of Duty within the last couple of titles. I'm sorry to say but dashboarding and host quitting has ALWAYS been a problem since COD4: Modern Warfare , just be lucky that you at least have host migration (that works sometimes) because in the original Call Of Duty and I believe World At War as well there was no host migration when the host quit the game would just end and whatever team was in the lead won.

I wouldn't know how COD4 worked on the console since i only played it on the PC, where my community hosted 15-20 servers for that game alone.

I never had any lag issues of any kind due to the fact that i was playing on rented, dedicated servers and never had to play vs US/JAP/AFR/AUS players. Basically mostly playing with/against people who had a proper connection, enough so they had proper pings when playing on our servers.

It was STABLE, which is kind of the point when playing online, and especially when playing competitive games like an FPS.

The devs making FPS games for the consoles need to sit down with microsoft and find a solution (Most likely very hard) and provide the players around the world with a system that works properly, so that we can ALL play on an even battlefield. Right now, there's ZERO competitiveness, ZERO equality in terms of stable connections in this game due to the random host selection and host migration. You're either ahead of the other players by 2 seconds or you're 2 seconds behind. Nothing in between. Players can throttle their connection/use lagswitches as well to make the game even less enjoyable for everyone caught in ther mischievous acts.

Ah well, i just hope we'll see some major improvements on how we play FPS games once the next gen consoles are out.