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Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:18:54 GMT

Its been up there for 3 days now. At first I thought it was a mistake but was beginning to wonder. Thanks for the update.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 17:06:01 GMT

Foxhound-Pro wrote:

Nubdub wrote:

If there is not a problem, why did they make adjustments in the last patch? You are saying the game plays perfectly for you yet a patch was releasing in terms admitting it was not perfect.

Regarding trusting the developers to adjust things properly. You mean kinda like people trusted toyota to make a car that the gas pedal didn't stick to the floor and had to be sued to even admit there was an issue? Or maybe like firestone who made faulty tires that the steel belting was separating from the base of the tires and caused many injurys and deaths before the government forced a recall? So we should always trust corporations? Not sure I agree with that.
Because the game is in a live environment where tweaks that may make sense based on an environment that is continually expanding could have possibly become outdated?

Let's stay away from hyperbole. No one has said that the game runs perfectly. There is also no reason to compare Treyarch/Activision so drastically to the likes of Toyota or Firestone in which people are actually dying. No one is dying here. Furthermore the issue with lag is not as concrete as a pedal which can be stuck or a tire which can be stress tested. The Internet is a variable. It's much harder to measure and prove. The problem is that people echo chamber that an issue exists and simply want action taken at face value.

I'll also note that resorting to hyperbole and this level of comparison makes you look unreasonable. It's okay if you have issues with the game. We all understand that it's possible, but there are many of us who refuse to polarize that the game is inherently broken.

I feel the need to elaborate on this subject since some dev felt it appropriate to put an out of context post as a sticky on the main page of the forums. My post was a response to someone saying we should blindly trust Treyarch/Activision to make correct decisions on adjustments to the "anti-lag" code on the game. My comparision was only to show that just being a corporation does not always mean you make correct decisions. Sometimes it takes consumer advication to influence corporations to stear them towards making correct decisions. In no way was saying someone would die if the corrections were not made. It was simply a hyperbole to show that being a corporation does not always mean you're are making correct decisions. I, and many others have patiently (or impatiently) waited 3 years for something positive to be done and have yet to see any results that have a positive influence on the "anti-lag" out of sync issues, specifically for the host player.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 26 May 2013 06:57:59 GMT

If there is not a problem, why did they make adjustments in the last patch? You are saying the game plays perfectly for you yet a patch was released in terms admitting it was not perfect.

Regarding trusting the developers to adjust things properly. You mean kinda like people trusted toyota to make a car that the gas pedal didn't stick to the floor and had to be sued to even admit there was an issue? Or maybe like firestone who made faulty tires that the steel belting was separating from the base of the tires and caused many injurys and deaths before the government forced a recall? So we should always trust corporations? Not sure I agree with that.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 14 Jun 2013 06:11:36 GMT

Good post. Exacty how I feel. I forsee the beginning of the end of this series if it keeps going this direction connection wise. I and many other customers who enjoy the 60 fps of this game will jump ship as soon as something else comes along that plays 60fps and does not have the artificial lag issues this game does. I've been patient for 3 years hoping they could work things out and have not seen any positive results.It only gets worse.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 04:25:37 GMT

Strange. Doesn't seem like it was meant to be there.

Re: This Webpage has a Redirected Loop

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:52:00 GMT

He did clear cookies.

Re: This Webpage has a Redirected Loop

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:53:33 GMT

Sound like some sort of spyware to me. I would run malwarebytes or some other spyware removal tool and see if that does any good.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 08 Jun 2013 06:22:00 GMT

Foxhound-Pro wrote:

Nubdub wrote:

Where is everyone?
I fought food poisoning for a few days and am now gearing up to head to E3.

I'll be out for a while.

Different topic: Post count means nothing. Take this from a moderator who's had as much if not more posts than anyone.

Have fun at E3! You can bring us back all the inside info.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 07 Jun 2013 16:11:08 GMT

High post count means you posted more than someone else. It means nothing more, nothing less. A bit off topic though.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 07 Jun 2013 05:53:36 GMT

I have to say I have seen a major performance difference switching from my "fat" last generation xbox to my daughters slim xbox, especially when hosting. I am going to test for a couple more days but seems to be a big positive difference.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:43:40 GMT

Where is everyone?

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:39:30 GMT

Say as you will. That's what the forums are for. I'm done getting myself involved in circular argument's. I just want to find out what the differences are why some are receiving a delay as host and some aren't. There has to be a logical reason. Arguing in circles that it is or isn't happening is not going to fix the problem.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:59:00 GMT

I think in less than perfect terms, he is just saying that no one's argument should bare more weight than others since none of us has access to the proprietary code. I agree that he could have been less demeaning but I find myself doing the same thing when backed in a corner. I think we all do this to some extent, it's human instinct.

In the end, we all just want our idea's/voice/opinion/theory to be heard and not muffled out by embarrassment, humiliation, intimidation, and degradation.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:34:48 GMT

I think what Jinx is getting at has more to do with Mac's knowledge how this particular game is coded. I think every company has some proprietary stuff that no one but them know about. All of us, including Mac, can only speculate as to what effect the proprietary network code may have on BO2. I trust Mac's knowledge on the basics of coding but not so much when it comes to the specifics on how this game is coded.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 15:34:37 GMT

maccabi wrote:

Nubdub wrote:

Does anyone know why I would be connected to 12 different IPs as a player during a game but as host I am connected to 55-60 IP addresses? Could this possibly be why I always feel disadvantaged as host?
is it possible you could screen shot this , I have an idea why you are seeing more as host but don't want to say without seeing your screen , the ips when hosting are at odd random times ie they aren't a continual stream of pings to you right?

I did take some camera shots with my phone but the screen shot idea would be more legible. I will double check though to make sure they are not releasing after the game starts. It was pretty late when I was testing it last night.

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:58:29 GMT

Does anyone know why I would be connected to 12 different IPs as a player during a game but as host I am connected to 55-60 IP addresses? Could this possibly be why I always feel disadvantaged as host?

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:49:49 GMT

Foxhound-Pro wrote:

Add me - Not sure if I can join tonight though.

II F0XH0UND II

I think I sent you a friend request but not sure. If those are "L"s at the beginning and end of your tag and zero's for "O"s, I sent you a request.

Shaft62702

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 04:54:33 GMT

Me and Jinx are on the game waiting for you deamonomic, foxhound, or who ever else wants to join

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 02:22:30 GMT

Thats the thing, your "proof" is nothing more than a random theory either. So I guess you would have to exclude yourself from that post also. Maybe the OP should change the title of this post to "Random theories on lag, none more important or irrelevant than the next"

Re: Yet another lag post. Current Discussions

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Jun 2013 01:48:49 GMT

I care nothing about kill to death ratios, kid. I care about competing. If I know that the game is not going to allow me to compete, I will back out. Which happens to be 100% of the time I host. I don't even wait to see what the score is like, I back out.