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Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 14 Sep 2012 02:12:12 GMT

G IH A IN ID II,

While I still can't spell that name without looking at it, I want you to know that it was great being able to speak to a developer directly, and really if I could have my forum account deleted I would, but since there is no option I felt I mind as well contribute here, even though that doesn't mean much. Weather I purchase the next title I am not sure, because shooters aren't really my games anymore. But the patch notes explain your work, and it's a lot, so be proud and good luck to you in the future

Dex

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:23:54 GMT

ho1rse wrote:

No chances on the CM901 which is complete outclassed? What is with the shotguns SPAS-12, KSG-12, Model 1887 and AA-12? The obsolete LMGs named PKP Pecheneg and MG36? The pistols? I am happy that pistols and launchers are the only secondary weapons in Black Ops. Who designed the shotguns Infinity Ward? Someone of the weapon balancing team really thinks the AA-12 is balanced with the FMG9 akimbo .We have our three shotgun balance threats http://forums.activision.com/message/205475388#205475388 http://forums.activision.com/message/413253401#413253401
http://forums.activision.com/message/413290873#413290873 with about 150 pages that gives 100% proof for a shotgun buff. At least they should gave us a playlist with the buffed shotguns and the other without the buffs.

You will get the "The team feels they are balanced". The team that made the game, made the game that seemed fun to them. They do not care about what the community thinks. They fix bugs, add maps, but will not change a game based on the feel of others which is sad. I want to use shotguns but they are garbage, even the AA-12 on chaos mode is bad. You guys have proved your point, but they don't get the point. Do no buy their futrue titles if this is not what you desire. The AA-12 even failed on their DLC Collection 4 Trailer. Guy with an AA-12 goes into a room with a few guys that had no idea he was there, and he even got the first shots in with the AA-12, he died lol.

Re: Paid $15 for New DLC and all I got is a Theme??

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:54:05 GMT

It's a pre-order, you need Elite to get in now.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 10:44:47 GMT

I think they need to add a counter for last stands in Chaos, Player 1, Player 2, then shows the number of last stands, then slighly increase the number of last stand drops. More MAPS FOR CHAOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^90

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:44:49 GMT

I want to say that Chaos Mode is the best thing COD has brought in a long time. I would love it on every map, perhaps DLC after the end of Collection 4, I would buy it. Also, I would like to maybe so more options for it. I played online Chaos Moode and thought it would lag terrible, but actually I had no lag at all really, a few lag spikes here and there, runs better than survival that's for sure. So I am happy with that mode, and I would like to see it get into more maps. Seatown, Terminal.

Re: kaos mode!!!!!!

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:51:43 GMT

Just call Sony, get a re-fund.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:48:22 GMT

t-fibby wrote:

Is there any way you guys could improve matchmaking ? There are so many nationatilities in a single lobby that the shere distance alone will cause lag issues. I live in Finland and do realise that in such a small country, local lobbies cannot happen, but i don't see it being optimal either when you match me up with people living in the middle east, Turkey, France and Spain all together in the same lobby when there must be a lot of players with decent connections much closer by.

Being matched with people in southern or central europe shouldn't be an issue even if there are people playing here in scandinavia which might be better for me, but putting people together from a fairly large area like the oppsite ends of europe and throwing in some from an even further region is the real cause of the issues in my opinion. I've occasionally even played in lobbies with people even further away, like from Australia or Brazil for example. How can that be ? You leave way too much for the lag compensation to handle, if there were numbers instead of bars in game people would realise how much latency there is.

Where do i base this opinion of poor matchmaking being the root cause of lag on ? Well, I had good or nearly perfect matches with 1.19 on PS3 when it was released, now on 1.20 it's still playable most of the time but still laggy enough to frustrate me because i keep getting instakilled occasionally and cannot get consistent kills with guns that are meant to kill with either one bullet or burst, it's just hitmarker after another. I noticed the slightly increasing lag even on 1.19, and since 1.20 was for providing terminal, it must come down to matchmaking. What i mean is, since many regions (luckily far away from me) did not have Terminal, there was better chances getting into a lobby with people that are not from the opposite side of the earth, and along with the lag comp improvements you provided it made the game a lot better.

I personally think that since you guys got on the right track with adjusting the lag comp with 1.19, and then when it had been available for some time and i started noticing a decline in the connection quality, i must have been because more and more people worked around not having Terminal by creating an another account to another region and downloading via that, the amount of players far away from me increased and i would be again matched more often with people living outside of europe.

You can also see this issue in earlier titles now which did not have any lag issues when in their prime. I've played some CoD4, WaW and MW2 lately and i have very similar issues like i have in MW3 (instakills, bending bullets, hits not registering which in a way decreases my weapon damage, and reduced amount of time to react) in all titles caused by lag. But this is understandable, if go on to CoD4 or MW2 during the day it's fine because the game can find people close to me to play, if do it at night with either title it's gonna lag because the amount people playing in my region is extremely low and i'm forced to be matched with people far away. WaW lags nearly all the time because so few people play that game anymore. But it's not understandable in a title like MW3 which has according to the game 500k people on all the time any time time of day, so matchmaking should be better. I can go on BO any time of the day and will run just fine, not perfect but still good because although that game too has issues and lag, it still usually finds me a decent match and it still has a lot of players.

You are defitenaly on the right track with the lag comp because i really did have a really good experience with 1.19 when it was introduced (1 burst kills close range with the M16 and Type 95, no BS hitmarkers with snipers, no instant deaths etc.), but the matchmaking issues which now again makes the game slightly worse should be addressed. There should not be people with 1-2 bars in a 50ms or 75ms lobby altogether, and especially not when the 1 bar connection is caused by too great distance to the host.

I noticed the same thing and Steve knows it because I posted my experience 2 days before 1.20. I should also note, in the time I played on 1.19, I saw no red or yellow bared people, just 3 and 4 green bars, occasisonally a person or two would dip to the lower bars, but would just come right back up. Everyone was american, I did best on Terminal than any other map, it just felt so smooth. I also believe the issue is 98% matchmaking, and they need to re-invent it's done. A simple select your country before playing online would go a long way. DML data isn't working correctly, and added DLC/playlist fractures, is why it's not able to work as it did in MW2. In any case the issue has been found, it's just a matter of fixing it.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:56:57 GMT

Correct BO started the lag and framerate issues, MW3 is till better than BO, but just not at the MW2 level. Theater may have contributed to the framrate issue on BO, as we see with Skyrim, memory allocation on the PS3 is critical. BO and MW3 probably pushed its limit,and the added strain could have affected the online connectivity of the game. I don't get framrate issues in MW3 as I did in BO. From what I can see, matchmaking influences greatly on the connection. Which MW3 struggles on, especially since I believe less people play the game, I have 1 friend on MW3, when I had MW2 everybody was on. In reality, cod is dying. Also, all the DLC, isn't helping. I think the developers know what is wrong, they are trying all they can to optimize, but it just can't be done. It will be interesting to see how BO2 is after all of these years.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 06 Sep 2012 03:21:32 GMT

In the lst 2 days I had the best experiene, not really any lag and solid hit detection, all U.S. players mostly, and the map I played the most was terminal, all of the games I did good on were terminal. This mean that I was playing with people from the regions that had it, so actually this kept people from other countries and regions out of my matches. And today it's back to crap, 2 bar people in every lobby, lag. This game needs a region lock, dml data doesn't work, only 80% accurate, I can safley say the matchmaking is the cause of lag.

When you allow international gaming this is what happens, I say fracture the player base, because that also explains the why people have good matches hours after a patch, the player base gets fragmented. You should really look at this Steve.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 09:34:37 GMT

Just want to report that on PS3 tonight I had an awesome time gaming, really smooth, and great hit detection. Now the only game type I played was Drop Zone, and if that playlist was sniper less, and had some dog tages, that would be probably my favorite playlist of all time. One thing I noticed, see I press select a lot to see my bars, and I had 3 green bars 99% of the time, and I always look for that bug when all players have 3 bars, and have seen it where occasionally everyone had 3 bars for maybe a second or two. If I play face-off mode, or team deathmatch, I noticed that everyone has 3 bars for minutes at a time, and in almost every game I play. So far Drop Zone is the only playlist that gives me MW2 connectivity. Maybe something to look at...

When the game works it is really fun, I played for hours tonight, never rage quite once, maybe other should try Drop Zone...

Edit - And one reason could be that Strike Packages are disabled per person. This means less updates to the host I am guessing. And you said "

I think I've answered this before. Without getting into too many specifics the host client can display three bars under a number of circumstances. If the server frame overruns because there is a situation where too many things happen simultaneously, for example, an entire group hot join the match, however these occurrences should stabilize and be temporary. Another example would potentially be if the host, for some reason, was not sending regular updates out to the game clients and all packet traffic was getting backed up. This could be more consistent. Lastly we currently allow split screen players with enough bandwidth to host. Analysis shows that this occurs in between 1-3% of games depending upon game type and time of play. Because SS clients run at a lower (just above half) FPS they can show up as three bars players. To date we have found no evidence that this affects the host performance.

Cheers,

G IH A IN ID II"

So is that possible that the host is just over run by updates from all the stuff in the game? That's what I am seeing.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 03 Sep 2012 04:06:04 GMT

I have had worse, I got one hitmarker on someone, then over a minute later I get a random kill, next time I am going to investigate this.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:55:21 GMT

By the way, when you said the first party country is used if no DML data is available, does that mean the country Sony would be in. So if other countires ISP IPs have no homes, they are getting put into U.S. games. More lag, a simple option to select country will go along way.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 21:43:19 GMT

It seems that if you can get into a U.S. lobby you will be fine, but when not it's a nightmare. I was playing DropZone and I noticed that the 3 bar bug was gone, but when i play team teathmatch it's there.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 07:49:01 GMT

So I jumped on to MW3 last night,and the hotfixed changed, anyway, the game felt better than it has ever been. I had no slow downs and if felt very smooth, and all U.S. lobbies, I was actually surprized and I was getting kills, going positive, last night was very good, I will be jumping on after posting this, hopefully the magic is still there. PS3 BTW

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:56:30 GMT

maccabi wrote:

Ghandi,
I did mention this a few poages back and think you missed it ..

am I right in assuming its impossible to get a draw between two players shooting each other ..ie they both die.

Playing hc as i do this is the one mode where if a draw was likely to occur it would be this.. and as i said previously cant think of one instance where i've ever seen one past someone dying afterwards due to a thrown nade,rocket ect.

If i'm right I would assume as the most complained about feature is the wtf moment followed by the i shot first whines that this would be a factor more so than any "lag comp" applied.

i know im touching on a real headache with the coding here but surely it would be better from a visual perspective of a player to give the impression of fairness and randomise the event result instead of making it based off a server timestamp thats been adjusted by "lag comp" . Not saying making it haloesque with mutal deaths as thats kinda annoying but maybe a 50/50 chance on who dies.

I've been going back thru months of posts recently for something and it does seem bar the host is disadvantage thing this is the number 1 complaint from players is the wtf moment i shot first wah!!! .. and most lag comp based complaints deal with the fact they died NOT the game was lagging visually.

it would counteract the code used to smooth out the gameplay having an affect on the outcome of events more as from the players perspective it wouldn't look like there was an obvious issue/advantage/disadvantage.

hope i explained this clearly

*disclaimer i know what im asking touches on numerous different aspects of the code so used everyones favourite "lag comp" as an all encompassing term that everyone can understand instead of technobabble

True, in MW3 I do not get the rubber banding lag affect where as in MW2 I did. It's the interpolation smoothing they added which I think is the reason for this lag. Since they looked through all net code changes since MW2 and found nothing, I would assume the issue is mearly server based. In which case, would mean that unless the game is coded to work with that system, they should be able to fix it.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:40:50 GMT

Also, a sniper only an siper less playlist is something that i thought would have been in the game on release as I kept up with twitter fourzerotwo, he posted hints that it was in. Too be honest, that is the one playlist I think deserves to be in the game the most. It's not fun runnin right after a spwans being sniped, campers ruin cod.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 18:21:23 GMT

I just want to say Steve(I am sorry but souning out your name and trying to spell it is impossible lol) that Final Assult looks really good map wise, I can tell the maps look like MW2 maps, and you did not go crazy with textures! I look forward to it. Anyway, my main concern is with Chaos mode, can you please add that mode to maybe all maps besides DLC, I really want to play it on Seatown, which is in my opinion is the best map in MW3.

Also, is split-screen AI never coming, I think it would really be something you should considering adding in a patch. Treyarch did it with Black Ops, please I am begging you!

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 08:28:44 GMT

G IH A IN ID II wrote:

dexter1992 wrote:

Since groundwar on shipment
That was crazy fun once in a while though, right?

Cheers,

G IH A IN ID II

First and formost G IH A IN ID II, I am sorry if I come acrossed as very negative person, I would like to say that it's not directed at you soley but at the decisions made by the whole team, I just find it frusterating that you have the MW2 code and just can't seem to get into MW3. Also, I am not a hardcore fan that complains about pellets and perks because frankly I only stick to core. In regards to, groundwar on shipment, that is the most fun I have ever had in a shooter, I love that mode. I wish cod4 and mw2 were hack free, and I know Sony's console has its exploits and there is nothing you can do until the console is secured, I just hope you keep pressing sony to fix the jail-broken ps3's transfering moddified patches to ps3's running official sony firmware. This bypasses anthing you do, you could keep updating the patch, but the hackers would just get around it again and again.

edit* - I had an idea to solve the issue, it was theory. But it would bem that when developers submit a patch to sony, they would do an md5 check and get a value on it, and the ps3 console would do an md5 check on every patch in the game data utility. And if the values didn't match, the patch would not work. So this would kill modified patches working online, of course when you add in dlc and theater, and other features, the md5 code would change and there would be many different values. In any case, Sony would have to re-do the patch system, which isn't going to happen.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 06:07:02 GMT

mud1280 Lol, Call of Duty is arcade style, how can you deny it. BF3 is a shooter that's not arcade but it seems to be moving that way.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Discussion

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:23:34 GMT

Since groundwar on shipment