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Is Call of Duty reaching for a new level of mediocrity?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 08:24:54 GMT

I apologize for starting a new thread, but I've been considering a lot of things regarding the the last three releases. And, I'd like to hear some input from other players, both good and poor.

With this latest release bringing such negative feedback for it's multiplayer, is it possible that activision is straight-up trying to shove away it's hardcore playerbase for the average mediocre player? With Call of Duty outselling itself, and well everything else too, year after year, it's only a reasonable assumption that a huge majority of players are well....mediocre at best. With each of the last three releases, we've seen multiple new implementations and changes in netcode and even just overall gameplay.

With Black Ops 1 we started seeing some incredibly strange hit detection and sporadic at best matchmaking--paired with weak gunplay that seemed to offer no advantage to an above average player with good aim. In time, with multitudes of updates and patches, the game was at least running as well as the engine would allow. Better players eventually started prevailing and the bell curve made itself back to its bell shape--if that makes any sense.

MW3 started introducing us to a whole new set of problems including but not limited to: a revenge spawn system that seemed to be purely line of sight based with no regard to location on map, more wonky hit detection, and an increase in overall "in-game lag", with many players experiencing huge delays in real-time compared to killcams. We also seen the introduction to support killstreaks and our most loved deathstreaks. As with Black Ops, this game made some major improvements in the overall feel of the gameplay, but many of the "lag comp" issuses still exist to this day. Fortunately, with the map layouts and forced chokepoints, better players again eventually overcame this with emphasis being stricly on location instead of just RnG'ing and shooting first--since shooting first didn't necessarily mean you got the kill if you were a second behind.

Now we're at Black Ops 2. Again we are plagued with an even WORSE lag comp algorithm and glitchy netcode. We now have a matchmaking system that makes priority skill-based instead of just finding a good game (I know there is no proof of this, but common, we're not idiots here). The spawn system in any non-objective game mode now creates just pure randomness on most maps with no flow whatsoever. The gunplay is umm....well im not sure how to describe it honestly--it just seems like there is no consistancy to anything in this game. I see players raping one match just to get raped the next. The hit detection is just as weak as the previous two installments, however, with all the other issues compounding on top of it, the hit detection ruins this game. It's just too sporadic, everything in this game is too sporadic. I'll continue to play it, but it's gotten to a point where I can only handle a couple matches at a time.

And on a side note, I'm looking for some opinions on this video I made. I'm not saying anything either way--I am just looking for some opinions as to what is going on. To me, it appears that my bullets were completely changed due to lag comp. I'm not saying I should have killed this guy or anything. But I am merely just trying to put the pieces together and looking for non-biased opinions. Thank you all for reading this and for any input.

: http://youtu.be/82inf2Zu5qA

Re: Matchmaking issues?

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 20:56:05 GMT

Yeah.....blops just keeps black screening.....mw3 won't find match.

Re: What is wrong with elite? (BEACHHEAD LOOK!!!)

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:54:00 GMT

Exactly, we've pretty much given up on clan ops. Great idea, terrible execution (much like the rest of elite). As a clan, or even lone wolf ops, we have yet to participate in an operation where anything we do in the last half hour actually counts. If I get 200 dom caps, elite stops updating when i'm at 150. If I get 500 kills, elite stops keeping track at 400. It's this way for both clan and lone wolf ops--wherever we're at 30 minutes prior is where we stay. I'm not saying I or we would win, but still extremely frustrating none the less. There's definately an issue with score tracking.

Re: Clan Not Showing In Ops Results

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:22:28 GMT

Have you re-checked it? I was having same issue--I believe they were fixing some of the problems. All of my clans individual scores finally updated, and our top 6 score was no longer showing 0. We also received our badge/xp accordingly.

Make sure you close the competition browser window and check your connect page again.

Re: March 30th Clan Ops - Someone Please Tell Me This Isn't It ?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:54:23 GMT

Read the other 20 discussions about this past clan op. There's issues with it.

Re: Server Error

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:56:12 GMT

There's a lot of issues right now with that last clan op. Beachhead is aware and working on it. I'd give it a few days or until another statement is released before i'd start worrying too much.

Re: My kills did not count on clan operations

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:52:10 GMT

About as frustrating as the number of discussions on it. People can't comment on one of 20 existing discussions--they have to act like they are the only one with problems. It just floods this forum so people with legitimate non-related issues get drowned out.

Re: March 30 clan ops discrepencies

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:48:14 GMT

Give it a couple days. Beachhead is aware of the issues. Until an official update from them is posted, I wouldn't worry about it. Specifics are just lacking atm.

Re: Clan XP not added to clan for clan event

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:44:11 GMT

Beachhead has already stated they are aware of issues with this last op. If you check the op itself, it still says verifying results. Until a new statement is released, we can't do anything but wait. I'm in the same boat here--5 of us in clan were partied up whole time minus two games. At 2:30 mark stats didn't update anymore--and top six kills=0. Just going to ride it out for now. Contacting support is pointless atm--it will just overload them and slow things down. Just try to be patient guys--it probably won't be fixed for a couple days.

Re: Server Error

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:33:49 GMT

No, are you still having problems? Elite crashes more frequently than occasionally it seems to me anyway--just try it again in a few.

Re: March 30 clan ops discrepencies

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:04:43 GMT

Personally, I'm just going to ride it out until verification is done, and/or beachhead responds more specifically on the matter.

Re: Clan Ops Results for Co-Op Warriors 3/30/12

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:53:20 GMT

We have 5 people, all partied up on same team. Top six score=0, and individual scores stopped counting half hour early. Why would beachhead mention they are aware of the issue if everyone was boosting?

Re: Why is this such a joke?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:46:43 GMT

Beachhead studios is apparently way too under-staffed and under-resourced to handle something as big as this. So much "potential". I want to see it thrive; however, it's a shame to say their's been way too many misses. The hits have been drowned out. Fortunately, DLC is included--the ONLY thing that truly makes it worth it.

Re: Does any one know of a list of all the call of duty elite challenges?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:21:31 GMT

http://support.activision.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/ELITE-Clans-FAQ/?q=ELITE+FAQ&l= en_US&c=Platform%3AElite

Re: Clan-EP?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:33:37 GMT

Seriously? lol.

http://support.activision.com/articles/en_US/FAQ/ELITE-Clans-FAQ/?q=ELITE+FAQ&l= en_US&c=Platform%3AElite

Re: No Clan XP?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:57:21 GMT

Mykels56 wrote:

When you say beachhead is aware and working on it, what does that mean?

Exactly!

Re: Co-op Warriors March 30th

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:54:26 GMT

You must be the only one with this issue--I'm suprised there are no other discussions on this exact topic.

Re: No Clan XP?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:48:22 GMT

Mykels56 wrote:

It also seems that other people are having the same issue going on.

Do we really need yet another thread on this then? Elite's broke again--there are no updates other than beachhead is aware and working on it.

Re: my clan done well last night but it says top 6 overall kills 0 but they got around 1800 oh and they are all founder?

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:33:44 GMT

fatedtitan wrote:

...to actually read...

That sums it up. It's easier to flood forum with gramatically incomprehensible garbage and an obnoxious run-on for a subject......jus saying.

Re: Well done on confirming the Clan Ops standings

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:44:06 GMT

wolverinecm71 wrote:

Well at least you got some xp..my small clan of 18 had 7 players last night and we still dont have any xp or badge?

Same here. We had 5 of us. Our individual scores didn't move the entire last half hour--and our top 6 kills still says 0 --so it put us in the remains. If it's already rewarded xp and badges--are we screwed? Or will adjustments still be made (it still says verifying results)?