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Re: (Unofficial) Clan Ops Champions List for ELITE 360 (short four)

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:11:24 GMT

Sorry there bro,

but no one cares anymore. Since all the 1:5:6 stuff was exposed a while back, ...interest in this stuff just dropped off the cliff. Even clan op comp participation is at abysmal lows compared to the summer. The reality is, no one is really impressed anymore, because it's pretty much only 2 or 3 clans competiting against each other, and their sub clans.

Winning 37 straight contests against one other group, isn't impressing anyone anymore. The whole system was screwed from the get-go

Re: Does double XP carry over to Black Ops 2?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:30:01 GMT

What number did you call to reach Treyarch?

Re: Cannot enlist in clan ops. shows as enlisted then reverts to enlist now

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 30 Jun 2012 22:10:20 GMT

I hear you.

We are a level 35 clan. HSV1. 77 members and at least three of them got the premium this past week, so they could contribute to the clan competitions this weekend.

I was trying all morning to enlist in Today's 'Dom' competition, and the above described problem, was happening to me, in the exact same manner.

This is f*cking bullsh*t. Bad enough I paid to use this product, but the above three guys, who forked over their $50 (or whatever it cost them), they have to be feeling a bit used right now. Activision/Beachhead takes their money with no issues, that processed quite easily. But when it came time to deliver the product? Complete fail.

Why no official statement? Are the Beachhead tech people to busy smoking crack and sucking their mom's d*cks to take the five minutes to just post some info, any info, so people don't have to bang their heads against the wall all morning trying to get it to work?

how about some common courtesy you f*cktards. You take our money, at least give some news or updates if the thing isnt working yet again.

Re: Do clan ops boosters get banned????

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:41:42 GMT

How do you know they are top ten?

Where is this official top ten list, with scores, from last weekend?

Re: Do clan ops boosters get banned????

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:41:04 GMT

How do you know they are top ten?

Where is this official top ten list, with scores, from last weekend?

Re: Do clan ops boosters get banned????

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:15:42 GMT

How does one see who the top finishing clans are?

For example. This past weekend. Is there a way to check and see who finished in the top five? Or top ten? Our clan finished 40th overall. But I have no way of confirming who was above us, and what their score was. Or if they are even legit?

I have to wonder, because we got our 40th score relatively fast. Like within a half hour of the ending time. There is no possible way that any boosters or cheaters would have been disqualified that quickly. So does mean, ...seeing how we are still 40th.....that the cheaters are still sitting there with their higher ranks? Their clan still gets credit for whatever top 10, top 20 cheating result they got?

Re: Do clan ops boosters get banned????

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 18:14:55 GMT

How does one see who the top finishing clans are?

Re: thanks BEACHHEAD for shutting up the complainers

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 14 May 2012 22:53:03 GMT

Shut up you moron.

Why in God's name would I thank Beachhead? Elite should have a bad name or reputation, the product sucks. It doesn't work.

We've got close to fifty (of 57) people in our clan who gave them $50 each...$50 each....so that we could do one thing. Play Clan Ops. That's $2,500 we put into Beachhead's corporate account. And what did we get in return?

- The product didn't work for the first four months.

- After it worked a few times, it was shut down for another month

- After they got it working about two weeks, it broke again, the Clan Showcase failing

- Beachhead tried to get an Op going, ...and it failed. They gave us 500xp. Big wow.

- Beachhead then put up three new Ops...and now they can't get the results up.

- The last contest yesterday, their system missed 300 + kills from our contest.

- We played one contest, wasted hours....and it's been a week, and still not up.

Ask yourself....we gave these guys $2,500.....why in God's F*cking name should I be thanking them. For what? 'x55StarGeneral'....seriously, why should I thank them? Thank them for simply notifying us their product is broken (which we already know), and then putting a form letter up? If this was any other regular business, they would be out of business, declaring bankruptcy with this crap azz service.

Sorry.....there's nothing to be thankful for. If Beachhead wants my 'respect'...give us our damn money back, or at least give a YEARS's worth of free Elite, to make up for the past seven months, which has been nothing but collecting money on a broken product.

The Elite Contests are royally F*CKED. Our clan's score is off by 300+ kills. WTF?

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 14 May 2012 22:39:52 GMT

Come on IW/Sledgehammer.

Really?

It orginally sucked that after buying Elite last November of 2011, I had to wait about four months until Clan operations got started. But I stuck by you.

I even gritted my teeth and shook it off, when you shut down the Clan contests, for about a month this spring after you had it working. I toughed it out.

Lately though, I haven't been able to view past clan contest results in the Clan Showcase. Why did this stop working? For the past few weeks, everyone is getting a big old "Operation Data is Missing". Yeah, that is lame. I can no longer view how we did in the past. Come on.

But wait...it gets worse. Where I used to only have to wait 1 hour to see final clan contest results in the Clan Showcase.....now I'm still sitting here three days waiting. Yeah, we did contests on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.....and here we are, Monday at 6:26pm ET, and I haven't seen the results for any of the above contests. WTF??? Then again, even if you get it up, i'll probably just get another "Operation Data is Missing".

But worst of all, looking at our score at the end of the clan contest yesterday, the scoreboard is off. With our clan, it's off by well over 300 kills. WTF???? What's the point of having contests if one can't even be sure your programs can accurately count.

Look.

This is b*llshit. I payed $50 to join Elite, and the primary (well, only) reason was so that I could play the clan contests. In fact, I got at least ten people in our clan to buy Elite, so we could play the Clan contests together. That's about $550 in your pocket, for a product that hasn't worked properly in about five of the seven months it's been out. When you add up all our clan members, 57 strong...with about 50 paying you $50....that's $2,500 you took, for a piece of sh*t garbage system that doesn't show results, just gives a "Operation Data is Missing", and can't even count numbers accurately.

And before one of your low paid data monkeys gets on this thread, to hit us with a form letter...about how your trying....how about acknowledging your system sucks donkey balls and refunding some of that $2,500 you took from us? And no, I'm not counting the other goofball bs you gave us about how there are other benefits Elite gives, like the gun stats and other things. Who cares. I already had that for free when playing Black Ops. You just co-opted it, dumped it in Elite, made us pay for it....and then talked about how cool it was.

Very lame.

Signed,

"We gave you $2,500 and feel ripped off"

Re: FIX FINAL STAND!!!

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:08:39 GMT

Final Stand is a douchebag perk.

End of discussion.

Re: Where's the fix for the Damage Glitch and Dashboarding? Mr Bowling????

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 20 Jan 2012 17:01:09 GMT

Some replies to all the good posts:

Whoever said you can't stop dashboarding, ...because 1) people will always quit, and 2), it is a built in XBoxLive function......you are 100% correct. That said, just because that's true, that doesn't mean Infinity Ward has to penalize honest players with a loss, just because their host migration engine fails.

Which is my point. IW apparently can't make a perfect 100% working host migration process, and they obviously can't stop people from quitting. But why can't IW put something into the code, so that IF the host migration fails, people don't get a loss? They already sort of do this with the stats now. The 'win streak' counter isnt' affected by people dashing or host migration failing. That statistic doesn't register a 'loss'. So why can't they simply a no-contest or something along those lines, if it happens?

Make it so the guy who hit the dash button, or the host or crashed the game....he gets a loss. Everyone else? They get nothing. Not a win, or a loss. This seems like such a fair solution, ....that it shouldn't even need to be said.

It's ridiculous. Only in an Infinity Ward/CoD game, can one be on a 156 match winning streak.....but yet have their WL ratio go DOWN by almost a full point. Some people may ask, how is that even possible? Well, i keep winning every game, but one out of every 15 games crashes or has a dasher. My win streak stays unafffected (as I didn't lose), but my WL record, it picks up a 'loss' on the stats ....even though i was winning those games.

It's completely absurd. And what is even more absurd, is IW won't even offer up a two sentence statement on this.

Where's the fix for the Damage Glitch and Dashboarding? Mr Bowling????

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:17:11 GMT

Two questions:

1. I checked out the "Title update" thread on this board. It hasn't been updated by 402 or any mods since Jan 11th. What's up with the damage glitch fix? Any news? It seems to be spreading, based on what i am hearing.

2. Regarding dashboarding. I thought dashboarding was going to be addressed in one of the two prior title updates? Why isn't it? In the past three days, I have taken five losses from other people 'dashboarding', and worse yet, (and this one really grinds me), i have taken three losses from what appears to be host migration failure. That is, the process started....and then things just crashed. I get booted, game over, i get a loss.

Seriously, to Mr Bowling and the other geniuses over at Infinity Ward.....what good is it to have all these Elite contests with stats, DLC with new content and stats.....if you STILL have the same failure issues (dashboarding and host migration) lingering from MW1? 2006, when you made that, is now six years ago.

And before anyone tries to come on and do one of those excuse making...."IW can't do anything about it, it's an XBox live issue"...screw that. I've watched IW take the time to nab cheaters with the token glitch, sticking them with 1,000 losses and 10,000 deaths. They can resolve and mess with people's stats...if they care. If they can take the time to be vindictive enough to add deaths to a cheater's KD as a punishment......then why not punish those who try to boost/glitch/cheat with the dashboard? Come on Robert.....apparently you toolbags at IW can get nasty with the token glitch cheaters...but dashboarders keep getting a free ride after ride? For six years now?

Seriously.....if sticking some cheater's KD ratio is now your process for revenge, attacking their stats...........why do ALSO hit my WL ratio with a loss....when you God damn F'ing host migration process fails? So you punish stats for both cheaters AND honest players? Sorry Robert, but IW's hypocracy here is beyond belief. Makes you a grade A assh*le. Here's a suggestion Robert....rather than punishing my stats when your dated host migration engine crashes, why don't you punish yourselves? fair is fair, right? Maybe you all kick in 5cents every time a CoD player gets a loss on a dashboard or host failure? Give back some of that $1 billion plus you guys had come in?

The biggest annoyance with the above....is that to date, i am unaware of any IW/Activision employee even addressing the issue. IW will sit and mess around for months on tweaking the hip fire spread on the Type95, something that is relatively minor, but yet CONTINUE to ignore, not even comment, on the above process wrecking people's stats.

What good is a stat system like Elite.........when the game engine can't even properly track stats?

Re: Bowling on deathstreaks

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 27 Dec 2011 17:59:51 GMT

Let me add a quick few points to the crying guy up there:

1. Quit whining about 'teams' and 'clans'. There is nothing stopping you from grabbing a few people and joining up together. In fact, it's ridiculously easy. From my experience, the number one reason people can't join up is due to their own sorry azz playing style. If you hide, do nothing, people don't want to befriend you. This leads me to my next point...

2. You ***** about 'clan teamwork' like it's a problem, how they 'camp'. Heads up. Make up your mind. Are they hiding in corners camping? Or are they spawn trapping? It can't be both. Before any spawn trap can happen, one side must physically push the other into one corner of the map. That requires a half dozen things that AREN'T camping related. And most of the time, it's because one team is aggressively playing the objectives (like in Domination, going after the flag), while people like you, race to the corners to hide. You allow spawn traps to happen.Blame yourself.

Re: Robert Bowling's A Damn Liar!

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:32:54 GMT

MW3 is more 'gun v gun', in a sense that ....

1. noobtubes(GL's) have been greatly nerfed, OMA is gone, there are no triple/double nade perks and the Scavenger perk doesnt allow a nade refill. So right there, there are FOUR big fixes that reduce GL/grenade spam, making players use their guns more.

2. While there are tons of KS air support options......they are all still easily shot down by any of the Launcher classes, plus, the Sam Turrent option is still available. Plus....now, unlike before, the EMP bomb is only a 18 point item on the Support package. Get 3 to 4 caps/objective pts, all you need is 14 kills and you can run an EMP, knocking everything out of the sky for 60 seconds. Two guys running this, you pretty much can control the skies for 25% of the game.

So unless you are playing with a bunch of complete turds, air attacks should almost be nonexistent in this game, should never be an issue for a player.

To the OP, chill out and reevaluate your post, you don't know what you are talking about. Either that, or you kind of suck.

Re: Drop zone.

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:46:51 GMT

I like the game, it is different. Don't have the XP thing wired down yet (if it's faster/slower than other game modes)....but I do know one can REALLY rack up some wins playing it. I usually only get about six Domination wins an hour, at best. One can easily pull together 15 wins in an hour of game time with this format.

And while the game is chaotic, seemingly full of craziness, ....there is a method to the madness once you step back and analyze it. We starting running some nice setups on our team, combos, and we were consistently winning 7,500 to 2,000 (or less) games.

Re: Elite Clan Operations - Myth or Mystery?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:03:14 GMT

I hear you, but I guess it's all about 'expectations'

I had no expectations going into MW3. I saw the royal f*ck job they did with MW2. Good base, core game to build on (MW1, WaW, etc..), but then made terrible by dumb additions and made even worse, by no customer service. That was plain to see.

So when MW3 came out, I expected the worst. I personally never read the whole '24/7 Double XP, all the time" thing you are talking about. Never saw it anywhere. That seems ridiculous even if I had saw it, they wouldn't do that. Come on. Either way, yes, "Elite" is underwhelming, but again.....it's just a side thing doing group/Facebook like functions...and really, who gives a sh*t about that? I paid my $50 and now and getting my discount on the map packs. That's the meat. I'm pretty much happy, keeping perspective. Even IF this site was working, it's role is very marginal in the big picture compared to.....just how does the game work?

And the game, at least for me, is a smashing success. I love it. Few issues, but overall, it's all great. No real cheating, everything working, the gameplay is great and even best of all, IW took many features from Treyarch and copied them....making the game even better.

Re: Elite Clan Operations - Myth or Mystery?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:07:13 GMT

Time for a little perspective

1. No one is really going to get ripped off by buying Elite. Like we all know, almost everyone bought it for the map packs. Give them $50 'now', and you don't have to spend $60 later. So even though you are giving them the money earlier, you still make out % wise, saving $10 over the course of the year. Activision isn't really doing that much better either, just getting a bunch of money now, forgoing more revenues in the future.

2. As far as the monthly content, I don't know where that bogus rumor got started from. I've never read anywhere that monthly map packs would be coming out. It's always been, from what I read, the same status quo as before. Four map packs. Same time, same schedule. Expect one in Jan/Feb, just like before.

So when it's all said and done.....there's nothing to get THAT pissed off about. Yes, it's not what you expected, but again, you are getting a 17% discount on map packs. That's a fair enough deal.

As far as the site working....it seems to be working fine right now. We have clan, have 18 members, and people who try to get in, do get in. We have been getting our free emblems, tags and double XP stuff, it's all good. All that seems to be not working, is the lack of Clan challenges to level up....but that's something that is missing, it's not a working/not working issue. Will this stuff come? Be patient, another month or so isn't going to kill anyone. Not a huge deal.

Re: Robert Bowling/IW Idiocy - the confusion with Dashboarding

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:22:58 GMT

I imagine you would be done on this thread. Where else can you go from here? What's to debate?

You are saying playing the right way is "Subjective". There's nothing subjective about one side cheating and using a bypass quitting technique that wrecks games for everyone (when they already have a way to quit via the in-game menu).......versus one group that bothers no one and simply starts and finishes a game. There is nothing "Subjective" about that. It's black and white. Clear as day. Open and shut.

So what is there to debate? Don't mean to be harsh with you, but it's opinions like yours, that go unchallenged, that allow this bullshit to continue with this game. People thinking it's a simply another way to play, starting games and dashing all the time, to preserve stats and wrecking games for others. Sorry, it's not an alternative playstyle.

Re: Robert Bowling/IW Idiocy - the confusion with Dashboarding

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:51:03 GMT

Papaxs said....

"Anyway, what is playing the rightway? that is so subjective it is not even funny and a whole different topic. Hey man I am sorry you get dashboarded on but thats COD life."

Seriously? Not trying to stir crap here, but if stupid fits, it has to be called that. You are trying to say that "playing the right way" is subjective? Let me ask you. So when you were growing up, playing a game of monopoly, was it the "rightway" to simply throw the board against the wall, quitting when you felt you were losing? Or playing little league baseball, was it the 'rightway' to simply take the ball and leave the field, quitting, when you felt you did bad? No. It wasn't back then, and it's not right now.

Sorry, but unless you were raised in some crack house with no parents around, there are some common values to be had when growing up. Courtesy, manners, when playing even a game. You have an option readily available for leaving a game, that affects no one in that game. But yet YOU still seek the option that intentionally screws others?

So let me ask you, since you find this issue to be so subjective, what type of values were you given when growing up? If someone robs your house, do you find it subjective, maybe fair, that you resolve your issue by going out and stealing from someone else?

Robert Bowling/IW Idiocy - the confusion with Dashboarding

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:16:08 GMT

The premise - There are plenty of posts going around about Dashboarding, but it seems like most people aren't getting it and there is still massive amounts of confusion out there.One, let's start with the process. The process starts with someone wanting to quit, and the ends up affecting many other people. Let's start at the beginning.

1. Step One - Quitting Games: Quitting makes you a douchebag and there are very few legit reasons to do it. But I will admit there are probably some, like for example in MW2, getting stuck in an typical IW glitched game, with people cheating. But this is now, that was then, and right now, MW3 is mostly all clean. There really aren't any legitimate reasons to quit. But for this post, let's look at the two most common ways.

- The Exit Button - That's using the 'Leave Game' tab in the Options section of the in-game menu. So if you die, instead of changing your class, scroll down....and simply click on the 'Leave Game' tab and you are out. If you must quit, be a quitter, this is the honorable way of doing so, that least affects others (more on how it affects other later)

- The Dashboard - This is the douchebag way of quitting. This is using the XBL component of the XBox and backing out through the game. In essence, what you are doing is 'pulling the plug' on the game for everyone (more on why this is wrong later)

2. Step Two - How the two methods affect the "quitter": If a person quits, there is a lot of confusion with how HE is affected. Let's examine next, just what happens to only one person, the 'Quitter'.

- The Exit Button - The quitter, when using this 'exit button' as one is supposed to do, will get a loss. His KD and other stats, up to the point of his quitting, will also stay in the system. This is how it works in MW3 and in all prior CoD games. Pretty simple and easy to understand. If you must quit, let's say for lag reasons, this is the correct way to do so.

- The Dashboard - The quitter, when using the Dashboard, does not get 1) a loss and 2) none of his points, kills, deaths and other stats count. In essence, because the plug was pulled by him, the game he was in ceases to exist. It never happened. It goes without saying, THIS IS CHEATING. A person who has a bad game, goes negative lets say, simply can make that game disappear. And the reality is, that's why the KD stat is pretty much meaningless in CoD games. Most guys with high KDs (2.50, 3.10, etc...), they simply Dash their bad games. You see a guy type in his KD is 2.45, he probably dashes. Don't believe the lies he puts up on the board.

So what's the confusion here? IW games and Treyarch handled this differently, how it affects the Quitter. MW1, MW2, MW3 have been consistent with how their game engine treats a quitter using the Dash. Nothing counts. Basically, IW feels it's good to give this person a free pass. Is this the same for Treyarch games? No. In BlackOps, if someone used the dash, he would get a Loss. He could still cheat his KD stats, but his WL would be affected. So Treyarch and IW handled this slightly differently. Treyarch's system was at least somewhat better, in that it allowed you to spot dashboarding KD douchebags easier. If you saw a guy with a high KD of say 2.76, and WL record of say 0.67, you could be 100% certain he boosted his KD with dashing. Why? Think it through. He could eliminate his bad games with the Dash, but the 'Loss' still stuck on his record.

The confusion, Pt 2. - What confuses many people is how 'win-streaks' are handled. When a person dashes in MW3, he is able to continue his win streak. Makes sense, as the game he quit ceased to exist. That said, it wasn't the same with Black Ops. BlackOps put a fix into the game, halfway through, that corrected this, and ended the quitters win-streak. Lo and behold, suddenly, you no longer saw people rolling up 350 win streaks anymore in BlackOps. The cheaters got busted. As of today, I'm not sure if IW has put a Treyarch type fix into MW3.

3. Step Three - How the two methods affect the rest of the lobby (the other 11 players) - This is the most important part. How the quitters actions affect OTHER players. Here's the deal. Every time you enter a console version game of CoD, enter a 12 person lobby to play a game....the CoD game engine will pick one of the twelve players to be 'host' (let's set aside 18 person ground war for a sec). This is 'host' is the person the game engine is running itself through. So when a person quits, there is one immediate action that needs to be determined, and that is IF this quitter is the host.

- The Exit Button - When the quitter quits via the 'leave game', in-game option, he is out of the game as we know. If he was host (1 in 12 chance) the game won't end though. You'll get wind of his quitting, as you will see that 'host migration' icon pop up on the screen. If it comes up, you know someone quit via the 'Leave Game' function and that quitter was host. The game engine will now pick one of the other 11 people to host the game. This usually takes about 5 to 10 seconds, and at least with MW3, this process seems to work 95% of the time. A new host is picked, and the game continues. The quitters actions don't affect things 'to much'

- The Dashboard - If the quitter was host and dashboards, the game ENDS as we know. There is no host migration. How does it affect others? The other 11 players, their game ends. They get a big old 'LOSS' on their WL records. Their KD and other stats still count. You can now see the second effect their cheating has. Not only do they cheat by dashing, they also have the secondary efffect of screwing over other people, sticking people who were about to get the 'W', and now sticking them with a 'L'. Robert Bowling and the other aholes at IW should be embarrassed for letting this go on, for what is now years. These IW idiots should be held accountable and answer to this. One billion plus in revenue, and you can't even comment on this cheating?

4. Some other important points, the douchebag quitter never considers.

You'll often here the douchebag quitter give excuses that he's not going to take a loss, because it's not fair, ...the other team was cheating, had host, he had lag, pretty much, insert any of dozens of lame excuses these guys give. In every case, with every excuse, the quitter is always just thinking about themselves. That's how these guys think. One excuse you will often hear a lot is this...... "I wasn't the host, so my quitting didn't hurt anyone, what's it's to you?" .....Let's address that. One, you can never be entirely sure you aren't the host. Two, even if you aren't host, your quitting does affect other people. How? For starters, you just shafted your teammates, as they will be shorthanded for a while, 5 vs 6. Also, every time the quitter quits, the game engine will now have to find a replacement. And now some new guy, looking to get into a fair lobby......won't get one. He'll get dumped into the dreaded "Game-in-Progress" (GiP) Ever want to pull your hair out, when you get dumped into a losing game that is almost over? Blame the above a-hole(s) who originally bailed out on the game. GiPs exist because of these aholes quitting.

5. The "this is a Microsoft Issue, quit blaming IW" excuse

You will see this pop up a lot in threads. Absolving IW of all blame, and passing the buck to Bill Gates and Microsoft. While these people are partially correct, they aren't telling the whole story. Yes, the Dashboard is a Microsoft feature. That is correct. That said.......IW can do something about it. Why do i say that? Because Treyarch did address this partially. The CoD game engine and its stat tracking, it can recognize the Dash process. With IW, their engine gives the Dasher a free pass, and the other 11 players a Loss. Treyarch? Their engine gives the Dasher a loss, as well as the other 11 players. Both suck, but at least Treyarch penalized the dasher on the WL ratio. IW can do more. Both companies can do more.

End of the day, Robert Bowling needs to address this.