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Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:55:20 GMT

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Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

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Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:38:58 GMT

Like you said. Dead Man's Hand needs to have the damage/radius reduced, and the person should have to manually blow it up. Final Stand should have a delay and pistol only. Not primary. And MW4 = No deathstreaks that are lethal.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:48:12 GMT

Like i said.. (and a few others) make it so X amount of tags are worth one point on your pointstreak. Then people will actually care about tags. I don't care if it's 5 tags, 6, 10.. whatever.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 01:01:50 GMT

IF they are going to keep adding deathstreaks to COD games, they should ALL be non-lethal.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:43:00 GMT

coolwhhhip wrote:

I frankly don't even understand why people would have these crap deathstreaks even enabled. I remember when i first started, which was MW2, i would use copycat just because this was the only one that would not signify how i was struggling at the time. I mean seriously, it should be embarrassing for them, they are trolls though and get a little kick out of it so it will continue. What sux is that we have devs that enable and encourage this stuff.

Easy. They suck and need cheap, easy, free kills that require them to do nothing but die to get. I mean, they don't even have to blow the C4 up themselves. Just lay there like a fish out of water, wait to be killed and BOOM, +50. "So easy a caveman can do it"

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sun, 29 Jan 2012 00:24:08 GMT

baddress wrote:

Why is everyone so up in arms about deathstreaks?

If someone has a deathstreak it means THEY DIED SEVERAL TIMES IN A ROW and are likely having a horrible game because your team is killing them over and over! The other team getting deathstreaks means you're winning!

Someone explain to me why this is a problem?

@ G IH IA IN ID II thank you for putting up with this whole thread and for trying to concentrate on the actual more serious defects in the game.

You must be one of these people to not see the issue. Since you like caps, i'll make it as simple as possible, in caps. YOU SHOULDN'T GET REWARDED FOR BEING BAD AT THIS GAME.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:13:10 GMT

lol. You're kidding, right? So, we just so happen to leave at the exact second someone else leaves when we can pretty much tell a difference in the connection to know we're host? And we do this EVERY time, at the EXACT same time? lol. If you leave and it says "Host Migration" YOU WERE HOST. End of story.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 22:40:12 GMT

AgY wrote:

djam wrote:

nuttin2say wrote:

fmedina2 wrote:

Just curious... how do you guys know whos host?

They don't.

Evil troll is evil.. I switched my Nat-Type back to open .. to give IW a chance to fix it.

And i can tell because all i need to do is look at my traffic graph:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/830/graphht.png/

.. basically shows that i have hosted seven of the nine matches i played this evening

Did it lag?

Most of the players had four bars and it actually was a lot of fun.
Later some "international" three-bar guys joinned and ****** it up. They ended up being in my team so i didnt really care.

Does the problem still exist? Yes, for .19 as well as .20 .. waiting for the Hotfix to be deployed.

About the "They ended up being in my team so i didn't really care." part. If the 2 bar is on your team, it doesn't effect you? Whenever i see a 1-2 bar in the room it highly effects me, regardless of the team they're on. I usually know when to check for 1-2 bar players. Instead of the game play looking smooth but me dying to BS (When i shoot first, or put 5+ rounds in a guy and still die), i actually see people jumping and freezing all over the map. Like this video:

Long story short: If a 1-2 bar is in the room, my team or the other team, this video is the effect. I find it weird that if they're on your team it doesn't lag you.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:53:14 GMT

Same here. I switched off my KSG to go back to my Spas. Didn't last 5 minutes. Hit marker, hit marker, hit marker. At least the KSG gets me SOME one hit kills. Spas is one hit kill less than 50% of the time for me anymore.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:08:42 GMT

Same here, esmorgue. Black Ops was far worse for me than MW3 even. I was host 90+% of the time and, oh man, was it bad. Constantly jumping across the map. The fact people were able to take more bullets in Black Ops than MW3 made it worse, too. It literally become completely unplayable to me. At least on MW3 i went from high kill/death games to breaking even. Black Ops i went from 30-5 games to strugging to come within 5 or so kills of breaking even most of the time. It was really, really bad. I didn't even go to forums and complain, i just plain got rid of it. lol. Played it at my friend's house not too long ago on his (slower) connection and did perfectly fine. Maybe i just need to order slower internet? lol.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:57:04 GMT

randomguy987 wrote:

@Jeremy: If you're finding the shotguns frustrating in the gamemodes you're playing right now, give Hardcore a shot. I usually don't care for hardcore, but it's basically heaven for shotguns: they perform MUCH better when everyone only has 30 health. You'll be getting games that look like a Sandy Ravage highlights reel.

While HC TDM is just as tedious as it ever was, the Kill Confirmed and Dom hardcore modes are actually rush-friendly and non-campy (in fact, because it's so difficult to get the tags in HCKC, the kill counts in the average game tend very high --> fun).

Moreover, I was getting pretty solid connections in the HC lobbies (noticeably better than I usually get in the standard Core playlists). Might just have been luck, might be that youngsters who don't know how to forward ports tend to stay away from HC, but thought I'd mention for what it's worth.... Though note that you do NOT want to be host in a HC game if being host causes lag problems (it's even worse than Core).

Apologies if off-topic; but if this suggestion helps anyone else be "less frustrated" with the current state of MW3, then hey.

With the lag issues, it'll either be worse, or maybe a bit better. I might have to try it. I haven't played ANY hardcore yet on this COD. Last COD i really played HC on was COD4 near the end. (Right before MW2 because i played very little WAW)

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 07:03:00 GMT

nuttin2say wrote:

Torzhok wrote:

All I know my NAT type is 'Open' and thats all I know. I had to get it opened personally by Verizon support ever since on CoD4 back in 2007, my games would randomly drop and I would get disconnected from XBL parties.

Right.

There was another guy posted here or on one of these threads talking about how 3leet he was and IW should hire him to be a tester because ...

... he could not OPEN his NAT.

Yet, almost everyone complaining about lag has said they have reset their NAT to Moderate or CLOSED.

Anyway, I tried the game a few weeks back in both moderate and closed. In moderate the game was EXTREMELY laggy and in closed I couldn't even connect to Xbox Live.

BTW, Torz ... way back in COD4 I had the exact same conversation with Microsoft/Xbox Live.

My lag is on an open NAT. I don't think the lag has anything to do with our side if we only get it directly after a patch. (As mine has been with Black Ops and MW3) Not sure what fundamental changes they've made since MW2, but it's very noticeable. I very rarely had any issues with COD3, COD4, WAW, MW2. It was around the second patch released for both Black Ops and MW3 that completely changed the way the game played for me.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 06:03:47 GMT

nuttin2say wrote:

cockyjeremy ...

The problem I have is that EVERY time they get the game right for "me" (and everyone on my friends list) there are people that can obviously still play the game enough to get gold shotguns ... but want the game tweaked even more. It is when that tweaked even more happens that the game again goes to crap for me and my friends.

Now you can look at that reality a couple of ways.

A - I'm lying or exagerating what I experience

B - You are lying or exagerating what you experience

C - We all need to realize that lag is going to exist in an online game with current technology and for the time being the best solution is to tweak the game to a level that is about even for everyone.

Right now, that's what I see when I play the game. Like I said numerous times, lag affects me, too. But obviously the game is still playable ... and it's obviously still playable to others here, too, if they are out there working at gold camo for their shotguns.

I don't think A or B has to be true. You could experience one thing, i can experience another. C would be fine, but they can't seem to find a level that is fair for all players, as seen by comments since the latest patch. Like i said before it was even released: The patch will make it better for some, the same for others, and worse for others. I don't think they're capable of making it "fair" or "balanced" for all players. I know SOME lag will always occur, but i don't think i should be consistently behind by half a second (Little more or less depending on the room) all the time because my connection is better. Like i said, they depend on connections like mine (faster ones) to keep this game running smoothly without having to shell out for dedicated servers. So if anyone gets any type of advantage, it should be those of us that shell out more money for our internet. Not the other way around. The system where the host gets a slight advantage just plain works better. One person having a slight advantage is far better than 4, 5, or 6 people having a massive advantage over everyone else. MW2 was much, much better. Host had an advantage, sure, but it was ONLY the host. You didn't have several people per game that were nearly impossible to kill/avoid being killed by. What they've done in Black Ops/MW3 just doesn't work.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:36:42 GMT

nuttin2say wrote:

fmedina2 wrote:

Just curious... how do you guys know whos host?

They don't.

They're just repeating stupid shyt they've seen on some how-to-QS-in-COD website to make it sound like they know what they're talking about and convince working people (like GHANDI) they have legitimate issues. Why? So the devs will fine tune the game until it works perfect on their set ups and crappy on everyone else's and then they can post el33t QS montages on YouTube and boast about how awesome they are. And so that their parents will give them Oreo cookies for being so awesome.

Like i said.. i usually know i'm host by how bad the lag compensation gets. I test it by leaving. Usually i'm right. And i agree with your previous post, people that want this game fixed should help any way they can. Ghandi wanted to add me and check my vault, so i uploaded a gameplay to help out. I want the damn game fixed. I'll upload 100 games if they need. Whatever gets this **** working correctly. I would recommend everyone else do the same. If you have an issue, upload it to your vault and offer to let them come download it. Lets get this **** right.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:07:17 GMT

Torzhok wrote:

My game starts before anyone else in the room (I already picked my class while their client is still accepting the connection) = I'm host.

Off topic: 3rd MOAB, Model 1887 + Damage + 44 Magnum + 8 Scar-L kills = thank God I grinded the Model 1887 today.

I gave up on that damn shotgun. I wasn't about to deal with that thing long enough to get range/damage. Drove me insane. I switched to KSG two days ago and got it to gold last night. It's a monster when you actually get in a decent, non-lagging room.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:41:58 GMT

It's not too hard to at least get a good idea of who is host. Most people in the room will jump between 3 and 4 bars. (at best) The host is almost always a constant 4 bar. Most rooms i join don't have many 4 bars, so it cuts down the list of possible hosts. I can usually tell when i'm hosting because i get the "lag compensation" lack of hit detection. Best way to test if you're host: Leave. If it says "Migrating" as you leave, you're host. I usually can tell, test it, and prove myself to be right. Being host is not a good thing on here.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:04:59 GMT

I've joined rooms that were so bad that even the host was a yellow/two bar. lol. globoom, i can't say djam is or isn't experiencing what he says, but the things he mentions ARE real issues. He could be telling the truth. He could just suck and be making it up. I have no idea. But what he says happens to him, does in fact, happen to some of us. I've posted many videos proving that the lag compensation is horrible for a lot of us, myself included. Maybe he doesn't want to share his videos because he is making it up. Maybe he doesn't want to show his videos because he feels like they should just take his word for it because it's been proven that the issues are real. Who knows. Either way, these are legitimate issues and they DO need fixed.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:40:17 GMT

To the dude at the top of this page: If you get spawn trapped, you deserve it. You never deserve to have anyone randomly spawn behind, or to spawn with someone behind/beside you.

Re: Modern Warfare 3 Title Update and Hot Fix Notes

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:43:49 GMT

I think the easiest way to fix that is to set it up so if you join a game already started, even 1-0, you don't get a win OR loss for that game. All stats for that game are kept, EXCEPT for win/loss. Actually, i'm not even sure you get a win/loss for joining a game in progress. If you do, i got two free losses today from joining and the game ending with 5 seconds. Haha. Like i said a few days back though, i don't give two ***** about win/loss because i mostly play with randoms so i expect my win/loss to be about 50/50.

Also, it's crazy how much better the shotguns are when i actually (rarely) get in a room with little to no lag.