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Lack of support

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 18 May 2013 15:25:17 GMT

A_trey_u

I want to know why revoulution, uprising and all other add ons for the game are not avaliable on the wii u platform. It says on the game box:

Paid services: Add on content. Also we were promised Nuketown 2025 for anyone who preordered, when I heard this I immediatley preordered to the game to find when it arrived there was no code.

I like many other of the wii u community used to play on the wii and I actually bought every single call of duty for the wii, and never recieved so much as a patch in all the games. So that is already about £150-£175 spent on games which weren't actually complete.

If we dont recieve dlc at all in this game, this will be the last call of duty I ever buy. Even if you dont give us map packs at least give us nuketown 2025 and nuketown zombies.

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Aim Assist, fracturing of the fanbase and the casualization of gamers

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 18 May 2013 02:22:59 GMT

I’m back, been ignoring Black Ops 2 and having fun testing out the terrible netcode that was used in Modern Warfare 3 (While avoiding the plethora of hackers), though that’s a moot point since the same shitty netcode is used for BO2. (With the lag comp putting me at least a half second behind everyone else and the chief reason I’ll never play a WiiU CoD game again until it’s addressed with aim assist.)

From the looks of it, not much has changed except Treyarch is subscribing to the Valve formula for balancing overpowered mechanics and that’s giving everyone the overpowered mechanic. (Not that aim assists helps with the wiimote) So I’m going to make the end all post on why aim assist completely kills one of the only unique selling points for the WiiU Call of Duty and as a result Treyarch is intentionally sabotaging the market and creating a self fulfilling prophecy that the WiiU can’t push software. (Since Wii players won't care for the game since the Wiimote's ability has been neutered and the new base would rather play the game on the 360/PS3.)

Anyways, let's get down to it. (I've been slowly writing this over the past few months and didn't care enough to proof read it throughly, do excuse rambling parts or misspellings.)

What is aim assist?

Aim Assist, or Auto Aim, the process where the game pulls your crosshairs onto an enemy target if it is deemed close enough. It can apply to both being in Aim Down Sight mode and your aim is pulled onto it, or snapping on, where you go into aim down sight mode and you automatically lock onto your target (This is much more prevalent in the Single Player campaign on easy modes.)

An example of aim assist and the various degrees of its functionality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-MrSFgaMpg

Why do we need aim assist?

At the heart of the matter, it’s to speed up the game and make it faster paced. Since precise aiming is done for the player, all they have to do is get their crosshairs in proximity of the enemy, lock on and fire, and move onto the next thing. Another reason is due to the design of the game, being on a flat plain most of the time, rather than multiple levels. One has to just swivel around to be able to shoot at someone, also it's he reason why dropshooters are bain of most players, because most operate only on an X axis and not a Y one. So while it seems like a good idea to have it, the problem is Treyarch cranked up the aim assist to absurd levels for Black Ops 2. Here’s also examples of it being so strong that it pulls the player towards the enemy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lT2fuXnmNbQ

So why is aim assist a problem for the WiiU?

The big issue that affects the WiiU version is the fact that there are two types of controllers that can be used. The Gamepad, which is a traditional controller, and the wiimote. By giving the traditional controller a highly buffed aim assist; the wiimote is put at a disadvantage, because while it has more precision, the game does more work for the traditional controller users to get kills. While the Wiimote has aim assist itself, it is nowhere near as useful as the traditional controller version since a slight movement can break the aim assist lock. To make matters worse for the Wiimote, when the game was initially released, the IR function was completely bugged which made for inaccurate aiming and the lack of ability to fine tune sensitivity. In affect, Treyarch was and is throwing one of the most unique features of the WiiU version under the bus.

Who’s to blame and why?

So the question is, why would Treyarch intentionally nerf the Wiimote and give traditional controllers such extremely powerful aim assist? The answer to that is the fact that the Wiimote gives the user more precision aiming, not to the degree to a mouse, but enough to give them an edge if the user is competent. Case in point, Microsoft created a project to make a shooter that could have Xbox and PC players face off in a cross platform game only to scrap the project because PC users with the mouse and keyboard completely outplayed their Controller counterparts

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/ms-killed-pc-xbox-cross-platform-play

http://gizmodo.com/5593116/were-pc-gamers-too-good-for-microsofts-cross+platform -gaming-project

Now, before you say this is heresy and rumor, here’s a video of someone using a keyboard and mouse in Black Ops for the Xbox 360. The precision and moves he is able to do is nearly impossible for a traditional controller and he ends up dominating the enemy team because of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxLPmrZbWjw

You can’t do some of those moves and get that precision with a traditional controller that you can do with the mouse. And while the Wiimote allows for better free aim it doesn’t have the precision of the mouse due to how you use your arm and wrist. (One requires you to hold the entire arm up, the other prone on a solid surface.) Regardless,

Treyarch knew that they were trying to court a new audience for the WiiU, who would be more likely not be using the Wiimote, but instead, the gamepad, which is still a traditional controller. This would put the new players at a disadvantage against veterans of the series who use the Wiimote and if new players were thoroughly thrashed enough, would no longer have fun with the game and would stop playing it thus, shrinking the player base and potential profit for DLC and future games.

Now the alternative is Treyarch was just inept and can’t properly play test or fine-tune their own games and thus release them as both buggy and incomplete with the intention to patch them after the fact because the developers in charge of the WiiU version should have detected several major/gamebreaking bugs that could have been dealt with during the testing/development phase. That would make more sense due to the huge amount of issues that simple playtesting would have detected

So why is this bad?

Basically, the Call of Duty doctrine is to level the playing field where old and new players all have an equal footing, this is seen through the fact that most weapons are literally interchangeable and all are easy to get kills with as the game holds your hand to get them too boot with aim assist. The major problem with this is it has created a perception of how shooter games should be developed as is noted by Tripwire’s president John Gibson.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/13/call-of-duty-red-orchestra-2-interview/

By making games almost play for themselves rather than relying solely on the player a newer, less intuitive and downright inferior generation of gamers is being created. Just look at what the playtesters response to the new Ducktales game is.

http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=200929

It’s the over simplication and casualization of the video games which leads to less intelligent gamers.

By sticking to the dogma of a ‘level playing field’ Treyarch has literally killed off the one major selling point that differentiates the WiiU version of the game from the 360 and PS3. By giving controllers an edge over Wiimote, they’ve basically made the game the same for all 3 platforms, this makes it highly unlikely for new people who have played the 360 or PS3 version to switch over to the WiiU version and actually makes it more likely for people who had the Wii versions to switch due to superior patching and support that the 360 and PS3 enjoys. And the more obious, they have a much larger player base. Why spend over $300 for an new game when you can get a 360/PS3 for dirt cheap now? Also the player base that used the Wiimote has been diminished significantly with a majority of players having switched over from the wiimote to the controller. Why is that? It’s not because they like controllers better, it’s because they give them better results due to aim assist, where all you have to is be the first person to have someone else in your line of sight to win a gun fight.

If there is an official reason for why the Wiimote sensitivity and aiming was so buggy when it was released. I’m more than willing to hear it because it sates my curiosity and puts to rest the hearsay which I know Treyarch doesn’t appreciate. Also with Black Ops 2 being readied to be tossed aside for Ghosts as per Activision’s planned obsolescence policy, I know this postwon't change anything, but I felt it was worth pointing out that Treyarch did just as much harm to the building a WiiU fanbase more than a the lack of WiiUs being sold ever did.

DLC BUG

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 18 May 2013 14:17:03 GMT

Another bug?'?

https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzQ_JAAU7I-E7b6

Hackers might have started.

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 04 Jan 2013 03:12:30 GMT

Whilst playing TranZit today, my friend xRiotx pointed out; if you go to Leaderboards(On Zombies), go to "Green Run", select The TranZit with 4 tally marks, and set filter to all and scroll to the top of the list, you will find some Unusual things about the top 9.

If by any chance you are unable to view it, I have it below.

TranZit

All / All Time

Position / Nintendo Network ID Rounds Kills Revives Headshots Downs

1 zombiedestroyer9 130 8 2 0 3 Hacks?

2 Houndz 130 4 1 0 2 Hacks?

3 IJAKEZz (or lJAKEZz) 130 1 0 0 3 Hacks?

4 BlackOpsAuto 130 0 2 0 1 Hacks?

5 ButterLessToast 108 4 1 0 1 Hacks?

6 Nastro980 108 0 0 0 1 Hacks?

7 PVT-Angrybird 85 24 85 0 2 Hacks?

8 AchillesLapsus 85 6 4 2 4 Hacks?

9 Aerith 85 4 1 0 85 Hacks?

10 MaSonic 36 2781 4 1635 3

11 BobbyMcGee 36 2757 11 1162 8

12 rylandprince 36 2057 4 800 8

13 Voccio 36 1093 5 550 22

14 Phingerz 32 1854 0 1209 3

15 8bitViking 32 1844 2 1201 4

etc

I don't know if it's just me, but I'm 100% sure your not able to get to round 3 without killing atleast 8 10 zombies. How did he get to 130 with only 8? If this is the first signs of hackers, let's take them out quickly before it spreads.

Who's excited...

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 19:52:52 GMT

Who else is excited about the return of dual analog supremacy in Black Ops 2? One of my favorite things to do on Black Ops 1 was to beat Wiimote players down into submission, and let them know who's boss by commando lunging them when they cried for mercy. It was quite....satisfying.

Which dual analog controller are you guys going to use on Black Ops 2 now that there's a bigger selection? The gamepad, Wii U Pro controller, or the old school Classic Controller Pro?

One shot, one kill medal

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 18 May 2013 17:56:59 GMT

Why don't we get the medal for shotguns? If it is because of the pellets, we should still get them for the KSG, right?

Connection Trouble (MEX)

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 18 May 2013 16:58:28 GMT

Hey guys i just wanna say that i love the wii U and the ops II.. i never have any trouble before trying to conenct in multiplayer but right now i cant find any lobbies and its f$^@%^& bothering me i just want to play my internet is just fine so i dont know WTF, thanks!

Wiimote is... Underpowered?

donotreply@activision.com — Mon, 13 May 2013 10:13:27 GMT

I nearly died laughing yesterday in a lobby as a guy running around with a wiimote KSG (destroying nearly everyone with his cross-map slugs and ridiculously bad aim) told me that the wiimote was underpowered. While I understand it is (unfortunately) a legitimate way to play and that there is nothing I can do to get rid of any wiimote players, the fact that it is as powerful as it is already as an alternative control style bamboozles me. As if being able to shoot at ridiculous angles and dive to prone at the simple touch of a button while shooting wherever the hell you want isn't enough, I find myself sometimes getting killed by wiimotes when I wasn't even the one being shot at in the first place - it's as if wiimote players emit a cone of bullets from their gun rather than just one at a time.

Now, I'm not a bad player - I maintain a 1.61 KD (though I rarely go under a 3 KD now, I was bad at the start of the game since this is my first COD), I am 2 quad feeds from the Master Killer calling card and I pride myself on my SMG rushing ability, but boy am I bitter when I run into one of my (many) weaknesses - an LMG targetfinder wiimote who prones at the back of the enemy spawn, able to shoot nearly anywhere he wants without so much as moving his character. Sure, I'm a scumbag too. I use C4 in nearly all of my classes, as well as Flak Jacket and Tac Mask. I dabble in shotguns from time to time and my quickscoping with a sniper is passable. I can tolerate dying, more often than not I deserve the virtual deaths I get. However, when I get killed by a wiimote, I just always feel robbed. Whether it is getting wiimote shotgunned at a close range or accidently killed by a wiimote targetfinder who was aiming at someone else crossmap, I always feel like having a hissy fit and punching the next person I see. In fact, this whole rant is probably just because I am bitter. Maybe I should just get an Xbox or buy BO2 for my PS3 instead so bull**** like this won't happen... No?

And as for Mr Wiimote KSG... Never have I seen such shoddy hit detection. I am pretty sure he got a triple feed with one KSG slug when 3 members of my team were all spread out and not even in a row. And as if that wasn't enough, he then went on to complain about how Pro Controller players (like myself) have no skill because the wiichuck is so hard and takes so long to learn. Man, I feel so sorry for him - it must be so hard being able to stand still and shoot people behind him. Or to dive to prone at the touch of an easy-to-reach button. Or to be able to shoot people without looking at them. Or to have much less recoil. I genuinely feel so bad for him.

I may be reaaaaallly bitter about wii remote users but I'm not totally biased - I did try one out and I can say they are overpowered as ****. I'm sure a lot of Wiimote players are genuinely good at the game, but until you pick up the gamepad or a pro controller and show me what you got then you get no respect from me. I hope all your batteries get stolen in the night. Or your dog eats the controller. Or you develop an allergy to nunchucks. Either way, if the Wiimote disappeared I certainly wouldn't cry. In fact I would probably do a little dance and have a nice maniacal laugh to myself while I plot a way to get rid of targetfinders next.

/rant over, tl;dr. Feel free to contribute to the discussion, or alternatively tell me that I'm an idiot and wiiremotes are 'l33t'.

Wiimote Sniping - Settings?

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 17 May 2013 22:22:04 GMT

I'm getting bored and already have diamond SMG, LMG, and ARs. Not a fan of pistols, so thought I'd give sniping a whirl and level them up during 2XP.

But - my reticle is all over the place. If I barely move my hand, it launches across the screen. With recoil, it's even harder to get it back to my target due to it spazzing out everywhere.

Could someone take a few minutes and offer me a suggestion on how to tweak my control settings?

Currently, they are:

* Alpha

* Pointer, floating

* Camera speed: 36, 10, 40, 36

* Sensitivity: 16, 11, 11, 11

* Gesture: 13, 38

* ADS Reach: 40

* Deadzones are very small

Thanks!

Oh - and for some reason the Wiimote guide on this forum doesn't show up any more. Actually the whole "Announcements" area at the top of the forum page no longer exists. Why?

I want to play competitive and stop playing public match

donotreply@activision.com — Sat, 18 May 2013 03:16:31 GMT

Im getting bored beating up noobs that are not good and what really make me happy is doing a clan war or something, i like to scrim because im playing with good player but most people dont know how to play competitive like i do, not alot of player are in league play but when im in it i would lag because that host have walmart connection , are you getting bored playing noobs? it doesnt make you a good player, it make you happy that your doing good against noobs!!!

Wii / Wii U owner with a truthful but maybe hurtful statement

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 19 Apr 2013 20:15:43 GMT

I'm a proud owner of a wii & wii u i bought these consoles for great games like mario and other nintendo classic titles i never got them thinking they will be the future for Fps shooters that's why i own a xbox 360 for more serious games like cod. You guys need to stop complaining about the wii u not having the full cod game. Look what system you are playing on if you bought the wii u or wii for fps shooters games you bought the wrong console. Nintendo will never have a full scale fps you will always get a water down verison.

Yes, EliteQueen Really Is A Girl...

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 10 May 2013 21:21:02 GMT

so yesterday we were playing some TDM and this enemy squeaker got on the mic and started asking if Queen was really a girl...

i got on the mic and said that Queen is really a guy and i am really a girl, we just flipped our names to confuse people.

they left the lobby, and my team LoL'd for a while.

GGs to everybody last night and every night we all play!

This video is of EliteQueen and her favorite weapon in Black Ops 2. The Remington 870 MCS pump action shotgun.

We decided to use the song Lost in The Echo by Linkin Park because we love this band and really enjoy listening to this song. We feel that this song has a really good meaning of getting back in touch with your roots and not forgetting where you came from and knowing where you are now. 4H was born on the Nintendo Wii, in the middle of Dome back on Call of Duty: World At War. We have grown as gamers and as a family. We now have moved into the HD era and we're loving it. This is only the beginning.

Upload vs. Download Lag

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 14 May 2013 01:36:10 GMT

Obviously, when your bandwidth is being hit hard you get more lag, but what I noticed today is that if someone using your bandwidth is uploading (in this instance to youtube) you get MEGA LAG!

I found it really hard to even get a lobby. And, by luck, when there was a game, it was skipping, sliding, framing and everything else. You were dead and your opponent was running by you before you knew it.

Just wondering if anyone else has seen it?

A_TREY_U

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 17 May 2013 01:46:05 GMT

i happened to of bumped a thread for u called Wii / Wii U owner with a truthful but maybe hurtful statement. u just happened to have been asked a question by someone in that thread and u replied to them (dont quote me on this) eventually. the question u were asked about was the of an inquire to the next forseeable patch. u answered it about a month ago, and im certain the last patch wii u had was well beyond that. so r u going to hold up to ur word, or just keep ignoring everyone? i realize u have a job to do, but at the same time i expect anyone who tells us something, especially in a position such as urs, to be solid. im starting to see transparency. tell me im wrong.

[Removed by Moderator.] CoP clan!

donotreply@activision.com — Fri, 17 May 2013 00:32:37 GMT

Ok this is bs, we are close to making a comeback, but for some reason one person from their clan joins into our game, and they start getting Orbitals, VTOL, Lodestar and Swarms?!

Is this the only way they can win?

[Removed by Moderator.]

Seriously what kind of Master Prestige goes 2-24 with only 1 capture, and he is on the same clan of the opposing team. What a coincidence huh?

Why you do it so difficult?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 16 May 2013 23:26:15 GMT

Only treyarch or activition can say yes or no we have dlc

Tired of the same sh**

donotreply@activision.com — Tue, 14 May 2013 02:18:00 GMT

im tired of not receiving DLC, not receiving attention as a comunity, not even receiving something that wasnt even considered DLC and was free to all other systems, i´ll ask A_Trey_U once again, are we getting or not DLC?, do you at least have some info on the subject you can share with us?

please at least give us some orientation, some light in this darkness , i think that like me there are a lot of players tired of the same thing here just waiting for something that was proised from the very beginning.

Uprising DLC is really fun.

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 16 May 2013 18:18:45 GMT

Mob of the dead is fun as heck, easily the best zombie map. Firing range is back and its fun as always, the other 3 maps are actually good and not crap like most DLC maps. Damn this DLC is amazing!

Too bad all of these is worthless to me when I can't use the Wii Remote.

re can we have a show of hands for dlc ?

donotreply@activision.com — Thu, 16 May 2013 17:09:19 GMT

Simply answer yes if you would buy it purely for numbers ? If it turns into anything other than a show of hands Il delete the thread !

WTF? Stat Hacker or Just Glitch?

donotreply@activision.com — Wed, 15 May 2013 05:23:58 GMT

Don't know how this dude got these stats. I was on BO2 and noticed something extremely fishy about this guy's combat record. Is this a glitch I don't know about or what? o.0 No, I'm not asking how to do it if it is a glitch. I'm just wondering how he got these stats and if anyone else has seen this?